Mountain Biking - Rockshox dart

I'm looking into getting the dart 3. It says something about pop loc, what is that? and do i need it? also is there a difference between this http://cgi.ebay.com/07-ROCKSHOX-DART-3-MTB-Fork-Silver-100mm-NEW_W0QQitemZ280131043848QQihZ018QQcategoryZ58086QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem grey one and this http://cgi.ebay.com/07-ROCKSHOX-DART-3-MTB-Fork-Black-100mm-NEW_W0QQitemZ280131043983QQihZ018QQcategoryZ58086QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem black one?

i think pop lock is a button/switch mounted on the handlebars. when u press the button it locks out the forks. this is very usefull for climbs bcoz u dont lose power. press it again and it unlocks them.

black one has poploc
silcer one does not.

get the black one for sure

ok thats what i was thinking so would anyone know for sure if they would work on this bike? http://cgi.ebay.com/Used-Specialized-HardRock-Sport-19-Mountain-Bike_W0QQitemZ150138501060QQihZ005QQcategoryZ98083QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
sorry if these are dumb questions i'm used to working on bmx bikes

sorry but im not sure on this one.maybe go to ur LBS and ask some1 ther.

i think it probably would. that bike is kind of a piece though.

ok thats what i was thinking so would anyone know for sure if they would work on this bike? http://cgi.ebay.com/Used-Specialized-HardRock-Sport-19-Mountain-Bike_W0QQitemZ150138501060QQihZ005QQcategoryZ98083QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
sorry if these are dumb questions i'm used to working on bmx bikes

the dude who wrote the post sounds a tad sketch... but i guess thats just because he bought the bike at a garage sale...

sketch? and no i got it from a person my mom knew. i dont have money now to buy a new bike, i'm thinking of a kona when i do though. but the forks on this bike are shot. i still want to be able to ride till i raise enough money for a new bike, then i'll give this one to my dad.

imo you should think of getting a nicer fork than the dart- yeah its has a low price tag but for a little more money you could get a TORA...~$350-$400

yeah i know... but i'd rather buy a cheaper fork now. and then use the extra money i'd spend on a more expensive fork twords a new bike.

Poploc is nice but I don't find that it is much of a necessity. I got it because to add it later was $80 and to get it with the fork was only an extra $20. It basically replaces the adjustment knob on the right side of the fork with a knob connected by wire to a switch on your handlebars. Locking the fork out and adjusting compression are both done via that switch without taking your hands off the bars rather than reaching down to adjust it on the fork.

yeah i think i want it... so what exactly makes my bike a piece?

ok so i just got a second chance offer on a set of rockshox j1 forks. would these forks be better? they're only 41 dollars.

yeah i think i want it... so what exactly makes my bike a piece?


Nothing. I have an '04 Trek 3500 that I consider a piece, but has a good frame to work with, and is a "beater bike" anyway. Problem is, it doesn't take many "upgrades" at all on an old bike before you spend more than what a well equiped new bike cost. If this is a temporary bike why not get a rigid fork for alot cheaper?

no, the j1's are a down grade- stick to the dart3 or listen to me and get a tora... your choice.

I wouldnt, when you get a poploc, all it does is include a handlebar mount to turn the floodgate on and off. On non poploc versions, you can adjust it from full off, to any position in the middle all the way up to lockout, not like the on/off you get with the standard poploc.

Rockshox sells a poploc adjust to give you back this feature but i think its like an extra 60 bucks or something crazy. Do yourself a favor, stick with lever unless you want to pay 60 bucks extra on top of your already more expensive poploc version just to get the same functionality minus 10 inches of hand movement...

I wouldnt, when you get a poploc, all it does is include a handlebar mount to turn the floodgate on and off. On non poploc versions, you can adjust it from full off, to any position in the middle all the way up to lockout, not like the on/off you get with the standard poploc.

Rockshox sells a poploc adjust to give you back this feature but i think its like an extra 60 bucks or something crazy. Do yourself a favor, stick with lever unless you want to pay 60 bucks extra on top of your already more expensive poploc version just to get the same functionality minus 10 inches of hand movement...
The one I have moves the adjustment to the handlebar control. It looks like this:

http://www.xxcycle.com/poploc-adjust,,en.php

I didn't know there was a version without the adjustment knob; if that were the case I wouldn't even consider it. You should be aware that if you do go with the poploc (at least the one shown in the link above) that you have to use it to have any adjustability, the blue knob on the fork will not stay adjusted without the wire and bar control connected.

**edit** Guess there is a non-adjustable version:

http://www.xxcycle.com/poploc-no-adjust-left,,de.php

i got a dart 2...same as dart 3 without remote poplock

yes, the basic poploc doesnt adjust