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socalskiresorts
07-10-07, 06:49 PM
Fabian CANCELLARA is this guy a climber? or should i say can this guy hang in the mountain stages? anyone?

thanks


Ryanf
07-10-07, 07:22 PM
Hell no. That guy is huge.

Hezz
07-10-07, 07:41 PM
I thought that he was only about 176 pounds. Let me do a little research and get more info.

EDIT: From what I have found he is only 176 pounds which puts him at about the same weight as Armstrong in latter years. I don't think he is large enough for climbing to be a factor if he is fit enough. How good of a climber he is will soon be known.


Ryanf
07-10-07, 07:49 PM
176 is massive.

Helmet Head
07-10-07, 07:50 PM
Check out the tour de suisse coverage at cyclingnews.com. Expect him to lose about 10 minutes per climbing day. You might be able to shave some of that given the yellow jersey effect. But I don't think he can be a contender into Paris.

Ryanf
07-10-07, 07:57 PM
165 is a very big bike rider. 176 is a cow.

Ryanf
07-10-07, 08:10 PM
I thought that he was only about 176 pounds. Let me do a little research and get more info.

EDIT: From what I have found he is only 176 pounds which puts him at about the same weight as Armstrong in latter years. I don't think he is large enough for climbing to be a factor if he is fit enough. How good of a climber he is will soon be known.

I just can't believe you said that. I'm huge. I wiegh about 154 pounds.

erader
07-10-07, 08:10 PM
165 is a very big bike rider. 176 is a cow.

yep miguel indurain the cow :eek: !

ed rader

Ryanf
07-10-07, 08:14 PM
He is ET and if you wiegh 176 or more I'm not saying you are a cow but if you are in the tour you are.

Ryanf
07-10-07, 08:15 PM
Jan is super massive he is only 166-170.

Ryanf
07-10-07, 08:19 PM
Andreas Kloden is about 140 and is like a pikes peak celica. Cancellara is 176 and like a semi truck.

oldspark
07-10-07, 08:26 PM
I thought that he was only about 176 pounds. Let me do a little research and get more info.

EDIT: From what I have found he is only 176 pounds which puts him at about the same weight as Armstrong in latter years. I don't think he is large enough for climbing to be a factor if he is fit enough. How good of a climber he is will soon be known. Armstrong raced at 160 lbs.

SunSwingsLow
07-10-07, 08:32 PM
One thing is for certain...95% of Tour riders wouldnt fair to well in a bar fight.

donrhummy
07-10-07, 09:47 PM
It has nothing to do with his weight and everything to do with his specialty, his skills, what he's been training for, and he has not been training for mountains.

2wheeled
07-10-07, 09:58 PM
Fabian CANCELLARA is this guy a climber? or should i say can this guy hang in the mountain stages? anyone?

thanks

NO.

End of list!

djgonzo007
07-10-07, 10:09 PM
One thing is for certain...95% of Tour riders wouldnt fair to well in a bar fight.

How true!

Jinker
07-10-07, 10:10 PM
As messed up as this is, I'm siding with RyanF.

No way did Armstrong weigh in at 176 during the tour. That's deep into Der Jan territory.

djgonzo007
07-10-07, 10:11 PM
It has nothing to do with his weight and everything to do with his specialty, his skills, what he's been training for, and he has not been training for mountains.

+1

ovoleg
07-10-07, 10:31 PM
he'll get crushed in the mountains

GO VINOOO

Keith99
07-10-07, 10:45 PM
It has nothing to do with his weight and everything to do with his specialty, his skills, what he's been training for, and he has not been training for mountains.

And a bit to do with his teams options. If they had no real GC contender they might be willing to put a lot of effort into keeping him in Yellow. In htat case it would not surprise me if he managed to keep through the first mountians and see flat land again in Yellow. After all Mig and Jacques were not exactly mountian goats. But him keeping it to Paris would be a huge long shot, one the team will not take with better options.

Ryanf
07-10-07, 10:46 PM
It has nothing to do with his weight and everything to do with his specialty, his skills, what he's been training for, and he has not been training for mountains.

+1

But even if he trained for the mountains he had no chance. Robbie McEwen is small like a climber but can't climb. Fabian is a Time Trialist but is also a huge dude. The last huge guy to win the tour was Ullrich but he was special. Cancellara will be hanging in the groupetto.

Ryanf
07-10-07, 10:48 PM
And a bit to do with his teams options. If they had no real GC contender they might be willing to put a lot of effort into keeping him in Yellow. In htat case it would not surprise me if he managed to keep through the first mountians and see flat land again in Yellow. After all Mig and Jacques were not exactly mountian goats. But him keeping it to Paris would be a huge long shot, one the team will not take with better options.

Not with a 33 second lead.

roadgator
07-10-07, 10:49 PM
As messed up as this is, I'm siding with RyanF.

No way did Armstrong weigh in at 176 during the tour. That's deep into Der Jan territory.

i think he started some tours (or at least early season races) in the low 170's, but ended in the low 160's. I've heard that armstrong (and other GC men) plan on loosing a few pounds during the first week before the mountains. They dont go in fat per se (except for jan) but they plan on loosing a least a couple kilos throught the race. i mean, how could anyone even digest enough food to NOT loose weight during the tour?

EDIT just found a site that siad 165#, but again that doesnt state at what point in the season...

Ryanf
07-10-07, 11:14 PM
It has nothing to do with his weight and everything to do with his specialty, his skills, what he's been training for, and he has not been training for mountains.

Nothing to do with his weight? Weight is a huge factor. 10 pounds is the differnce between a tour winner and a cat 5 loser.

key
07-10-07, 11:34 PM
Nothing to do with his weight? Weight is a huge factor. 10 pounds is the differnce between a tour winner and a cat 5 loser.


so your saying, someone like say... lance, gained 10 pounds he would instantly drop down to cat5 and not even be able to keep up with them ? hah, he could gain 20 pounds and still remain in the pro peloton

Ryanf
07-10-07, 11:42 PM
Lance said recently that 5 pounds overweight and forget it you lost.

roadgator
07-10-07, 11:46 PM
so your saying, someone like say... lance, gained 10 pounds he would instantly drop down to cat5 and not even be able to keep up with them ? hah, he could gain 20 pounds and still remain in the pro peloton

wow, so if i lost ten pounds i could be in the TDF?

ryanf really is in his own little world...

Ryanf
07-10-07, 11:51 PM
Its a little off but most people don't understand how important weight is. I can tell when I'm a few pounds heavier.

vic32amg
07-11-07, 01:23 AM
Its a little off but most people don't understand how important weight is. I can tell when I'm a few pounds heavier.


I guess sastre will be the tour winner. he is in great form and probably the smallest guy in the peleton. I guess I quit watching. RAD!:rolleyes:

adamastor
07-11-07, 01:47 AM
Fabian CANCELLARA is this guy a climber? or should i say can this guy hang in the mountain stages? anyone?

thanks

If Cancellara wins a mountain stage, UCI/WADA/press will be all over him looking for the miracle medicine !

Whatever people think, cycling specialists recognise very early potential Tour winners. That's why a Frank Schleck is not considered as a potential future winner, but his brother Andy is !

Cancellara = great rider, but just for TT and flat stages.

marqueemoon
07-11-07, 01:47 AM
I guess sastre will be the tour winner. he is in great form and probably the smallest guy in the peleton. I guess I quit watching. RAD!:rolleyes:

No, no, no, and suit yourself.

dahoss2002
07-11-07, 02:20 AM
If Cancellara wins a mountain stage, UCI/WADA/press will be all over him looking for the miracle medicine !

Whatever people think, cycling specialists recognise very early potential Tour winners. That's why a Frank Schleck is not considered as a potential future winner, but his brother Andy is !

Cancellara = great rider, but just for TT and flat stages.
If nothing else, I think his early success will boost his confidence and maybe make him climb a little better than he would have otherwise. One thing for sure, He's a HOSS!

meb
07-11-07, 04:25 AM
If nothing else, I think his early success will boost his confidence and maybe make him climb a little better than he would have otherwise. One thing for sure, He's a HOSS!

We saw Voeckler 3 years ago raise his climbing beyond what anyone imagined so he could stay in yellow a few extra days.

gear
07-11-07, 04:27 AM
I was looking at him getting off the podium yesterday, I think his ass is in another time zone from the rest of his body.

gear
07-11-07, 04:29 AM
Fabian's ass can make the tides change.

gear
07-11-07, 04:31 AM
Fabian's booty is so big, the Goodyear blimp tried to mate with it.

NotAsFat
07-11-07, 05:15 AM
Frankly, I enjoyed seeing the wheelsuckers getting beaten by a real cyclist. :D

gear
07-11-07, 05:23 AM
^
feeling aroused are you? :rolleyes:
more like amused.

did you noticed that when he turned to leave the podium he knocked one of the flower girls off the stage?

gear
07-11-07, 05:25 AM
I too enjoyed seeing the sprinters get out classed, but that was one long boring stage leading up to that. Its a good thing Belgium and France are so beautiful to look at.

ElJamoquio
07-11-07, 06:20 AM
EDIT: From what I have found he is only 176 pounds which puts him at about the same weight as Armstrong in latter years.

Please don't make ElJamoquio cry.

ElJamoquio
07-11-07, 06:22 AM
Nothing to do with his weight? Weight is a huge factor. 10 pounds is the differnce between a tour winner and a cat 5 loser.

Damn straight. Only 8 lbs to go for me, and I win the tour.

ElJamoquio
07-11-07, 06:24 AM
Frankly, I enjoyed seeing the wheelsuckers getting beaten by a real cyclist. :D

No kidding. I hate those lazy wheelsuckers. 'Perhaps because you'll never be one, ElJamoquio, and you're jealous', you say.

Quiet, you.

LowCel
07-11-07, 06:29 AM
Nothing to do with his weight? Weight is a huge factor. 10 pounds is the differnce between a tour winner and a cat 5 loser.

I'm sorry, what cat are you? How many races have you won? Just kinda curious. :p

AconfusedBoy
07-11-07, 06:34 AM
Come on Ryanf, tell them how awesome you are. I can only dreme of being half the racer you are sum day. The way you talk I no you must be awesum, what are you? A cat 1 or a pro? After hearing about ur wait and seeing your truly, truly awesum legs I no you must be the fastest rider, especialy climber, on this forum!

merlinextraligh
07-11-07, 07:49 AM
Fabian CANCELLARA is this guy a climber? or should i say can this guy hang in the mountain stages? anyone?

thanks

The reason Cancellara did what he did in Stage 3 is that he's not a climber, and will lose the Yellow Jersey when the race heads up hill. Thus making hay while the sun's shining, rather than conserving effort.

Socalcycling
07-11-07, 08:00 AM
he'll get crushed in the mountains

GO VINOOO

vino insta fan

merlinextraligh
07-11-07, 08:25 AM
Nothing to do with his weight? Weight is a huge factor. 10 pounds is the differnce between a tour winner and a cat 5 loser.

Wow, I've seen the light, if I cut back a few beers I can quit my day job.

FixdGearHead
07-11-07, 08:26 AM
Deal with the fact that Ryanf is correct in this case.

176lbs is quite large for a cyclist who is expected to be top-tier in the mountains.

ovoleg
07-11-07, 08:55 AM
vino insta fan

duh supporting my soviet block ppls

gcl8a
07-11-07, 09:27 AM
sure. that fat guy in the banesto kit couldn't climb at all.

http://grahamwatson.com/dublin/lemond/images/image10.jpg

Whoa. What's with the bars?