No doubt. That kind of weight pushes the Xtracycle beyond its intended means, and I never meant to imply it was the fault of the Xtracycle; it is definitely a user issue. :)

But just looking at that Kona and the Big Dummy makes me think that owners will try to push those bikes' limits. In that case, my suggestion was to distribute some load to the front wheel, if possible, for better stability.


or build your own bombproof load carrying wheels.

No doubt. That kind of weight pushes the Xtracycle beyond its intended means, and I never meant to imply it was the fault of the Xtracycle; it is definitely a user issue. :)

But just looking at that Kona and the Big Dummy makes me think that owners will try to push those bikes' limits. In that case, my suggestion was to distribute some load to the front wheel, if possible, for better stability.
The accessories of this bike (http://www.workcycles.com/workbike/bicycles/workcycles-azor/workcycles-azor-dutch-granny-bicycle-lux.html) on that frame (with horizontal drop outs) would make it close to perfect.

it's not just kona and surly.... (http://clevercycles.com/?p=194)
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1323/616670070_c9949bec97.jpg

Well of course...with unlimited funds you can get whatever you want :D

it's not just kona and surly....

Since we're dreaming here, how about Vanilla (http://clevercycles.com/blog/xtravanilla/)?

http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u94/donnambr/P1000868.jpg

(Anyone notice the Airzounds airhorn on the Pereira? :D)

I like this custom xtracycle frame. I personally wouold not have the pugsey wheels on it but I like the solution to the very long chain and internal hub gears

http://www.ridingthespine.com/Journey/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/img_0597.JPG

http://www.ridingthespine.com/Journey/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/img_0599.JPG

http://www.ridingthespine.com/Journey/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/img_0605.JPG

http://www.ridingthespine.com/Journey/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/img_0095.JPG

taken from here just scrole down a bit http://www.ridingthespine.com/Journey/

No doubt. That kind of weight pushes the Xtracycle beyond its intended means, and I never meant to imply it was the fault of the Xtracycle; it is definitely a user issue. :)

But just looking at that Kona and the Big Dummy makes me think that owners will try to push those bikes' limits. In that case, my suggestion was to distribute some load to the front wheel, if possible, for better stability.

Agreed.

http://www.ridingthespine.com/Journey/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/img_0095.JPG



What kind of pedal/cleat system is that?

^^^
They look like platforms and power grips.

^^^
They look like platforms and power grips.
Look closer. The second picture that's a close-up of the rear wheel. I think they might be cut-off flip-flops attached to the pedal so the guy can pedal barefoot.

Look closer. The second picture that's a close-up of the rear wheel. I think they might be cut-off flip-flops attached to the pedal so the guy can pedal barefoot.

Actually, I was just making a smart-***** comment about the bare feet, but you're right, it does look like a cut off flipflop bolted to the pedal. That guy is hard core!

It's the Totally Hippie Pedal System. :D

Cool that other companies are picking up on this idea, but man that is one ugly sucker :eek:

Maybe it's just me, but this frame looks better to me than the Big Dummy (http://www.surlybikes.com/new.html). Not that looks are the intent with this type of bike.

here's another photo of the kona
that sure is a sweet ride

http://www.mtbs.cz/fotogalerie_06_detail.html?galerie=kona2008&fotka=61

can anyone tell me what the hell that thing mounted under the bottom bracket is?

mikE

here's another photo of the kona
that sure is a sweet ride

http://www.mtbs.cz/fotogalerie_06_detail.html?galerie=kona2008&fotka=61

can anyone tell me what the hell that thing mounted under the bottom bracket is?

mikE
A kickstand.
It has it's own built in kickstand and the pivot is painted with the frame. Which in my opinion blows chunks. They should have spec'd an ESGE double leg kickstand instead.

its a "kickstand", commonly used to hold the bike upright when parked.:D their all the rage now, quite newfangled. :D

dont mind me.... :D

They should have spec'd an ESGE double leg kickstand instead.
+1

I think he might be seeing the strange crank angle and the way the pedal sort of resembles a skid plate...

Looks like Xtracycle might be the US contact for this bike, seems relatively affordable...

http://www.yubaride.com/utility-bicycles-models.html

the Ute is on the Kona website

http://www.konaworld.com/08_ute.htm

prices: USA $ 799 CANADA $ 899 EUROPE € 799

http://www.konaworld.com/bikes/2k8/images/625/2K8_UTE.jpg

That really sucks that Kona is only making it in one size. I'm 6'4" and wear a size 13 shoe. Even if I could get the seat high enough the top tube would be too short to get good power and I'd probably have toe-overlap problems. Grrrrrrr. Guess I gotta wait for the Big Dummy.

Holy smokes, only 799 USD and it's like an xtracycle kit built up with a bike, except that you don't have to put it together yourself and it's probably a bit more solid than a bolt-on extension. Looks like a very low priced option when compared to xtracycle kit+bicycle or anything built up from the surly big dummy frame.

That really sucks that Kona is only making it in one size. I'm 6'4" and wear a size 13 shoe. Even if I could get the seat high enough the top tube would be too short to get good power and I'd probably have toe-overlap problems. Grrrrrrr. Guess I gotta wait for the Big Dummy.

How did I miss this?

I'm the same size as you, and I agree that one-size never works.

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What'da you want to bet that if it proves itself marketable Kona will have it out in three or four sizes next year?

I just really wish that Kona had put sliding or horizontal dropouts on it.

That's a heck of a deal, even without the cool Xtracycle add-ons.

So the specs list a "Front Brake" as "Hayes MX4 Mechanical fr/Avid SD-5 rr". I count 4 cables off the levers, and think an Avid SD-5 would make a reasonable rear brake, but can't see one.

Any thoughts?

I'm loving that thing, and I could even afford to consider it. The size thing is putting me off, but even more so is the fact that it comes with no equipment. What are we gonna do, just hang two sets of panniers on that rack? Without the load carrying kit, it's just a wierd looking bike.

I don't get it. What's the difference between a bike like this, and one that is converted with a kit?


a solid frame instead of two parts bolted together.