Bicycle Mechanics - Just found a Peugeot...worth the work?

I have just found a Peugeot racing bike in the parc nearby, it is pretty much dammeged:
-Bent handlebar
-Broken spokes
-Bent crank
-Bent rear wheel
-Rusty cassette
-No seat
-No cables
-No chain
-No front derailleur
-Broken rear derailleur

Though it has intact:
-Frame, no rust
-Front wheel, just two broken spokes
-Simplex shifters
-Front CatEye reflector
-Levers

Do you think it will be worth the work to rebuild it? Lets say I will spend a good hundred on used parts from other peugeots? Is it worth it, or all of them arent such great bikes at all?

With all of that serious damage to the components (bent bars, bent crank, etc.) I expect the frame has been hammered pretty hard too. I'd do a VERY careful check for misalignment and joint integrity before putting any money into it.

I know very little about Peugeots, but I do know that like most brands there's a wide ranging hierarchy. If it's something like a UO-8, it's probably not worth it unless you just like to work on bikes and learn. If it's something like a PX-10, the frame alone might be worth saving for a future build or a complete restoration. I advise posting info and pics in the Classic and Vintage forum, there are a lot of Peugeot fans there who can identify it and give you advice on it-

okay, thanx

Apparently it IS a px10

DO IT !!! Im restoring a dumpster dive peugeot also and converting it into a cross bike... almost done... just got the wheels in the mail today... nice and true. but... needs to be re-dished... crappy.

Nice hehe. I know I sound noobish, but what the difference between road bikes and cross bikes? and what is that cyclecross thing =P ?

Nice hehe. I know I sound noobish, but what the difference between road bikes and cross bikes? and what is that cyclecross thing =P ?

Wider tires and canti brakes. Those are the basics.

Frame, no rust - If you like the frame it is worth the effort. Consider a single/fixed gear. Sandsmachine.com has some interesting but expensive frame ideas.

Strip the frame and keep it around until you come across a better set of parts.

Again, be sure the frame wasn't damaged before adding anything new.

I just noticed this thread, having responded to the other on this bike in C&V. I agree with HillRider. If every part on it is bent, there is reason for concern that the frame is safe. I also kind of doubt that it is a PX10 based on your description of the shifters in the other thread. I would proceed with caution.

French bikes can also have a few "quirks" that make updating them with newer parts a bit of an adventure. Make sure you know what you have before investing much time or effort. Good luck.

Unfortunatly, I have just noticed that it IS bent, on the rear part. I already un-bent the crank, handlebar, and some other small parts, but the frame will take me some more time. Its not something that cant be done, but I have to proceed with caution. I also noticed that the bike was sold twice, from different stores, and does not have some original parts, though they were replaced with quality SHIMANO. So all that just cut my expenses in half. I would simply need a new 27" wheel, tires, chain, cassette,derailleurs. Which will come out around 50$, instead of 100$. Or I can even buy an old Velo Sport, and take some of its parts, because they use Simplex rear derailleurs as well.

Wider tires and canti brakes. Those are the basics.
yah but this guy had spare parts around so its just ending up being wider knobby tires and 105 calipers... funny enough I just just have enough clearance... we'll see once the mud and snow hit the tires...

clear coating the bike today, and just waiting for the cassette and the front derailleur or i could just use my old exage derailleur and re-sell my 105 derailleur

at that point it would be just to wait for the cassette.... oh and a 1 1/8" to 1" conversion shim... next week my bike will be complete. I can't wait to ride it.

French bikes can also have a few "quirks"...


Only French bikes?

But what is that makes a PX10 better than other models?

But what is that makes a PX10 better than other models?

Better frame and higher-quality components.

I believe the frame was Reynolds 531 double-butted w/ Nervex lugs.

I just took some pics of the frame. Sorry I cant post a direct link, because piczo is flash or something. http://international-citizen.piczo.com then click "Bikes" .
Even if it isnt px10, I will still rebuild it.

Sorry, some pics are bad quality, my cell was half dead

Wider tires and canti brakes. Those are the basics.


Aslo the basics for a touring bike;). Not one of Peugeot's upper end bikes, but probably rides and handles like most Peugeots. One word can sum that up, excellent. I've yet to run into a twitchy or bad riding Peugeot. With all those parts missing, it looks like an excellent single speed project?,,,,BD

As I said before, I know little of Peugeots, but I can tell you that's not one of the higher end models. A couple of clues are the stem shifters (the higher end bikes would have downtube shifters) and the "suicide" brake levers (the auxilliary lever that allows braking from on top of the handlebar).

It does have the "suicide" brake levers, and the stem shifters could have been installed by the shop that bought it after. Because many parts were replaced

Were Peugeot downtube shifters clamp on or braze on during the period it was made? Also no forged drops, although I'm also not sure any Peugeots had them at that point. Very Possible though. A higher end model would have a metal pedigree sticker, such as reynolds, etc.,,,,BD

That is a fairly low-end frame unfortunately. If you have a parts pile on hand, it may be fun to build it up into a single speed.

Ahh, just noticed the cable housing stops on the down tube. It never had downtube shifters, and the ones on it look original, not installed later.,,,,BD

But what is so special about the singlespeed models? Except that its...single speed..?

Single speeds are fun and will require less parts (and thus less expense). Most of the parts on the frame look trashed, so rebuilding it could get fairly expensive quickly. Do you have any usable wheels?

dude, that peugeot is sexy. If you want go for a simple 9 sp conversion upgrade the bike, itll cost aa pretty penny but the bike you will love if you put your time heart and soul into it. just watch out for your gf / wife cause they will harp on you putting money into something that they and others might find as a lost cause... if you got another bike then just clean up the frame and parts on this one and ebay it... you can get an easy 50+50$ for shipping on a buy it now.

My suggestion is that if you do put the time and $$ into it do it up as a 9 speed keep the weinmann brakes (cause those are damn good and hard to come by... just change up the pads with kool stops)

and if i'm not mistaken you got some nice dia-comp levers on there. feel like making money??? sell the levers on ebay after you cleaned them up but sell em at 50$ the set or 100$ with the weinmanns and change everything up for some campy or shimanos...

make back the cash you put into the bike. after if you dont like it as a 9 sp maybe think of converting to a single... or single it first (cause a track wheel set on ebay goes for about 30$ trust me i look almost ever day for deals on ebay) and grab something you can upgrade to a multispeed later...

all in all nice bike nice color and some nice parts on it still... brakes, levers, stem/quill, drops, frame, forks(thats already a good saving) although i do see a slight bend in the stays... might wanna grab a 2x4 and space that out or just put a good wheel in place just to hold the metal in place...

anyways good luck looks like a fun project...

Hey, a cousin!

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x25/coutujean/3fd1d8de.jpg

Thanks for advice dzinehaus (http://bikeforums.net/member.php?u=88614). And thats one sweet looking bike there JC. I will look for similar bikes, such as Velo Sport, because they have some simplex parts on them, that would fit the Peugeots, as well.
By the way, I have added some more pictures of my other bike, a Velo Sport Routier, I think its a 1982 model, but I am not sure. I bought it last summer for 50$, because I needed any road bike. But I would want to hear from people with knowledge, if the bike is good. http://international-citizen.piczo.com -> Bikes -> Velo sport

Which are better to have, the shifters on the down tube, or by the stem?

thats a matter of preferance...

weinmann levers on the peugeot... nice match for the weinmann brakes...

Dude you're the guy selling his gary fisher on craigslist!!! Alexandria, Would you be willing to sell me the crest off of your peugeot?

hehe, yeah, ive beet trying to sell or trade my gary, because I am officially tired of hybrids. Sorry, hehe, can't sell anything off the Peugeot, since I am keeping it for myself.

hehe, yeah, ive beet trying to sell or trade my gary, because I am officially tired of hybrids. Sorry, hehe, can't sell anything off the Peugeot, since I am keeping it for myself.

Keep the hybrid, funny enough it'll do you more good than you think... its called a hybrid for a reason... put drop bars on it, maybe change the fork and wheels on it. the for change it to a lighter weight carbon or TI fork and put 700c wheels on it, put slick tires on it and you may get more of the bike you want... keep your old gary fisher fork that you replaced and keep the 26er wheels that come with most mtb / hybrids. now what you do is if ever you wanna go bashing around mt. royal or some of the parks or mountains take the time and switch out your fork and wheels back to the gary fisher fork and wheels...

Trust me on how versatile a hybrid is. My HARO V1 which was stolen @ St.Laurent / Bagg St. (black and silver if you ever see a HARO that is black and silver in montreal its a high chance that it might be mine) was a great light hybrid bike. Even my LBS told me on the great find that I had as a bike. They had mentionnde with a few conversions it would be a great city / commuter bike. Now my peugeot I am converting to more of an off-road style.

That just goes to show you how polyvalant bikes really are. Just takes your know-how and the want to do it.

PS CHERISH YOUR GARY FISHER, cause if it ever gets stolen... you are gonna be pissed and not only that...left with only the supercycle or the velosport...

LOL, yeah, well, I agree that Gary Fisher is a good brand bike, and just looking at how much its parts are worth, I see that. I already thought on installing a carbone drop handlebar, but it would be a bit expensive, because I will have to put new shifters and levers of quality as well. Well, I still use it everyday for urban riding, and even mont royal. And it already has 700c wheels installed, thats what I like about it. But the handlebars are the only problem for now. Youre right, I should keep a quality bike, but slightly convert it into something that I would love.

Here are some parts that I have been looking at for some time now,
Carbon drop bar: http://www.niagaracycle.com/product_info.php?products_id=1690
Carbon fork: http://www.niagaracycle.com/product_info.php?products_id=13194
But I cant find racing pedals on the site though

forget the carbon drops get normal drops, a simple ritchey drop will go a long way...
also go with this http://www.performancebike.com/shop/Profile.cfm?SKU=23291&item=50-6731&slitrk=search&slisearch=true and save a good 100$ and then if you need the stopping power of canti brakes or v-brakes just slap on the front weinmann brake from your peugeot or the brake from your velo sport... put some nice kool-stop pads on it and voila...

cheaper and would make more sense... otherwise if you are really intend on going carbon cross fork go with the nashbar.com cross fork... http://www.nashbar.com/profile.cfm?category=600086&subcategory=60001182&brand=&sku=12387&storetype=&estoreid=&pagename=Shop%20by%20Subcat%3A%20Road%20Forks

or cheap it out... deal with the weight difference and grab the cro-mo fork:
http://www.nashbar.com/profile.cfm?category=600086&subcategory=60001182&brand=&sku=13283&storetype=&estoreid=&pagename=Shop%20by%20Subcat%3A%20Road%20Forks

decent pedals for cheap ...again nashbar... no wait... there is a guy selling size 8 look shoes with 2 sets of pedals w/ cleats... for 35$ CAD if you wannt split on the price I'll grab a set of the pedals and you the other ones and if you want... we can talk bout the shoes...

unless you are really serious about biking don't put soooo much $$$ into your bike... esp. in mtl. imagine if you lost your bike to a thief after you just dropped 400$ + on it to upgrade... spend maybe 200$ max and grab some bear for later, buy clothes, food, pay some bills etc.
http://www.nashbar.com/profile.cfm?category=6000108&subcategory=60001123&brand=&sku=5077&storetype=&estoreid=&pagename=Shop%20by%20Subcat%3A%20Road%20Clipless%20Pedals

http://www.nashbar.com/profile.cfm?category=600092&subcategory=60001050&brand=&sku=14094&storetype=&estoreid=&pagename=Shop%20by%20Subcat%3A%20Road%20Handlebars
a drop bar for cheap... or just use the drop from your peugeot for your Gary Fisher


ummm also, have you tried going to abc bicycles on parc ? they might have all the stuff you want for a decent price...

Hmmmmm, very good stuff, thanx. Though Ive got a problem. one of the screws that holds the stem, is screwed... probably that the past owned tried to unscrew and he screwed up the top, so now I cant use any tool to get it turning... instead of a square hole, it became a round one.

well this will sound stupid but take a hex ey put it in the screw hole crazy glue it till the hex key doesnt move then unscrew...
then goto your local bike store for another screw to repace the broken one...

by the way for the pedals did you want them or not? this wednesday I'm going to see the seller

Youre talking about the guy that was selling 2 look pedals and 8 sized Look shoes? If yes, then I was interested, but 8 is not quiet my size at all..

well, you can grab one set of the pedals I'll grab the other and the shoes

wait, hes selling two sets of pedals? 35 for both or 35 each?

OOh, from craigslist, okay, yeah, im interested. but which ones are you looking forward on taking for yourself? the white or red ones?

White ones, unless you want them

Well, I was hoping on getting brand pedals, are red ones LOOK or other good brand? because they would match my gary

I think they are both look pedal sets. well which ever ones you want it doesnt matter. I'll get the shoes too and give them away to anyone on bike forums if they want them. Just pay the shipping...

so we split the price 50/50? By the way, is LOOK a good brand?

yes and yes

Sounds good to me. Youre buying them tomorrow?

yup