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yellowjeep
07-13-07, 11:22 PM
mr white or anybody else, what kind of adapter is is on the disc on this bike?
http://www.fixedgeargallery.com/2006/july/AndyWhite_2.htm
I need some kind of freewheel to track adapter for my disc, I know that HED makes one but it lacks lockring threads (this will only be used on the track so i don't know if it makes a differnce, does it?) I know a guy at work has one that has set screws and is theaded for a lockring and he says it works great. I am looking for more options, any suggestions?
freeskihp
07-14-07, 02:11 AM
if its only on the track than no lockring is needed(no backpressure is applied)
peabodypride
07-14-07, 05:05 AM
if its only on the track than no lockring is needed(no backpressure is applied)
The person in the link was a courier. Plenty of backpressure, I'd assume.
I'm getting ahold of a HED Disc. It's threaded for a freewheel; I'll be making it a suicide hub with RED loctite and possibly also a bottom bracket lockring. For almost all uses this will be fine, including for backpedalling.
The trade-off is that the red ain't ever coming off; if you need to replace the cog, you need to replace the whole axle assembly.
piwonka
07-14-07, 06:25 AM
i don't think that the red stuff is really that strong....not ever coming off...
Dumpsterlife
07-14-07, 06:51 AM
The trade-off is that the red ain't ever coming off; if you need to replace the cog, you need to replace the whole axle assembly.
Thats what I thought too...it's not the case.
SSSasky
07-14-07, 07:01 AM
It is considered to be a 'permanent (http://www.loctite.com/int_henkel/loctite_us/index.cfm?&pageid=19&layout=3)' bond, requiring tools and 'localized heat' if it ever needs to come off.
JB Weld would also be another 'permanent' option, although I'd prefer loctite because you could theoretically remove it later without damaging the wheel if you wanted.
The one in the picture is probably the one your friend at the shop mentioned - it's obviously held in place with set screws. (edit: from the description, he rigged this up himself. maybe contact the gonz lab for details).
veggiemafia
07-14-07, 09:37 AM
It is considered to be a 'permanent (http://www.loctite.com/int_henkel/loctite_us/index.cfm?&pageid=19&layout=3)' bond, requiring tools and 'localized heat' if it ever needs to come off.
Reverse rotafix and a hair dryer should work out just fine for tools and localized heat.
blickblocks
07-14-07, 09:44 AM
Reverse rotafix and a hair dryer should work out just fine for tools and localized heat.
Red loctite needs to be raised above 300 degrees. A hair dryer isn't going to do ****.
I still haven't installed my cog on my disc yet but I think loctite is my only option. I run brakes though.
I just had an idea...what if I just run it with a freewheel??? I love riding fixed but I don't want to damage the wheel or my face.
piwonka
07-14-07, 10:33 AM
i've used red loctite on lots of nuts and bolts on cars and was always able to break them loose with a simple ratchet that is shorter than most chain whips...no air tools or heat or anything.
SSSasky
07-14-07, 11:11 AM
Red loctite needs to be raised above 300 degrees. A hair dryer isn't going to do ****.
I still haven't installed my cog on my disc yet but I think loctite is my only option. I run brakes though.
I just had an idea...what if I just run it with a freewheel??? I love riding fixed but I don't want to damage the wheel or my face.
OMG FREEWHEELZ FTW!
zephyr16
07-14-07, 11:24 AM
Originally Posted by blickblocksRed loctite needs to be raised above 300 degrees. A hair dryer isn't going to do ****.
I still haven't installed my cog on my disc yet but I think loctite is my only option. I run brakes though.
I just had an idea...what if I just run it with a freewheel??? I love riding fixed but I don't want to damage the wheel or my face.
*****
gargiulo.mike
07-14-07, 11:28 AM
huh?^
filtersweep
07-14-07, 12:36 PM
Then you aren't using it correctly. It helps if you have clean threads. I wouldn't run brakeless with a suicide hub, but I have never had any trouble with one.
i've used red loctite on lots of nuts and bolts on cars and was always able to break them loose with a simple ratchet that is shorter than most chain whips...no air tools or heat or anything.
TimArchy
07-14-07, 08:34 PM
I've always thought JB Weld and a Miche cog carrier would be a good idea. The BB lockring only holds the cog onto the carrier, which takes all the pedaling forces.
Never tried it though.
zephyr16
07-14-07, 09:27 PM
huh?^
sorry, i didnt realize that pu$$y would be all stars
gargiulo.mike
07-14-07, 09:31 PM
sorry, i didnt realize that pu$$y would be all stars oh haha
Also, his email is listed there. you could try emailing him.
oldsprinter
07-14-07, 10:00 PM
You can get them from Sheldon Brown.
yellowjeep
07-14-07, 10:33 PM
You can get them from Sheldon Brown.
are they listed on his site because i cant seem to find it?
mrwhite
07-15-07, 02:31 AM
mr white or anybody else, what kind of adapter is is on the disc on this bike?
http://www.fixedgeargallery.com/2006/july/AndyWhite_2.htm
I need some kind of freewheel to track adapter for my disc, I know that HED makes one but it lacks lockring threads (this will only be used on the track so i don't know if it makes a differnce, does it?) I know a guy at work has one that has set screws and is theaded for a lockring and he says it works great. I am looking for more options, any suggestions?
oops. hello.
Gonz (LAB) machined it to accomodate two bolts either side which thread INTO the body. This was a permenant solution as I dont ever see a use for a freewheel, and I can change cogs easily. He also used blue loctite.
Ive worked on it a lot, it's never coming off ;)
But im pretty slow so...
ride safe.
yellowjeep
07-15-07, 12:32 PM
So the whole thing is a custom job?
Any chance Gonz LAB will make one for me ?
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