Mountain - Plains - The Triple - How'd it Go

snip...That would be pretty cool route, how long would that be? 150 plus miles?...is there another route from Glenwood to Vail besides I-70?

It's a double century that I've always wanted to do.

81 miles from Glenwood to Copper.
44 miles from Copper to Twin Lakes.
35 from Twin Lakes to Aspen.
41 from Aspen to Glenwood.

That was a pretty good guess though. I've never calculated the elevation gain. I'd guess about 10K or less.

You take the bike path from Glenwood through the canyon for 17 miles. Then it's the River Road all the way to Vail ...hwy 6... very good road since it has so little traffic.

Get a room at the Springs. Chow at the Brewery. Soak in the hot springs. What do you think? Let's organize it.

The time I listed was my ride time.

Are you the Biker Police??? ;)

I only ask because some people may be quoting total time (Start to Finish) and other mays be stating actual ride time, excluding the time spent at the Feed Zones.

Just want to be able to compare apples to apples.

Yeah, you don't really time Brevets. If anything, brevets stress more team-work ...drafting ...sticking together.

Heres are the rules (http://http://www.rmccrides.com/brevet2004rules.htm).

Come to think of it ...there used to be an unofficial timed double century. The Joe Lookingbill Denver Aspen Classic. I think the best times for that are sub 11 hours. It's no longer a day tour though because too many people had PSV (personal support vehicles) along the route ...the State Patrol said "no more".

Now it's a 300K brevet. I've done it as a brevet twice. It's 180 miles and 14K feet of climbing. I think the TBP is actually a little harder though. There's not as severe climbing in the D2A as there is in the TBP.

In fact, I believe the D2A this year is the same day as the CC Copper Triangle ride.

Brevets are timed, and they report times for everyone, so if you want to compete against others for time, then you can. Definitely not the emphasis of the rides, but there are plenty of people that do.

On my first brevet, I was in the second group of riders... there were three of us, we came around a corner on a flat area, and saw the first group of three riders way up ahead... One of the guys with me says he wishes we could catch them and just ride their wheels... me: "We can catch them, let's go!" ... I sprinted at 30 mph until I caught up with them... looked back, and realized I'd left them WAY behind! :) They caught up about 20 minutes later and the 6 of us pacelined into the half-way point... just under 3 hrs for a metric century!

Here is the results page for this year's brevets: http://www.rmccrides.com/brevet2007brevetresults.htm

Now it's a 300K brevet. I've done it as a brevet twice. It's 180 miles and 14K feet of climbing. I think the TBP is actually a little harder though. There's not as severe climbing in the D2A as there is in the TBP.

In fact, I believe the D2A this year is the same day as the CC Copper Triangle ride.

Denver to Aspen was canceled for this year. :( I wanted to do it. They were worried about construction...

you're right ...they are timed. But the time is only significant for the purpose of teh brevet in the context that it was finished within the alloted time.

when I said that they weren't timed what I was really meaning to say is that they aren't a race. the context of teh conversation was about timed centuries in CO for the purpose of it being an unofficial race. someone mentioned that that was what brevets are for. I chimed in that brevets aren't timed (for that purpose.)

regardless, you're right - they are timed and recorded with that time. they're also very much on the honor system since your card is often self checked at certain check points ...as you well know.

I think adding a timed aspect to these events is rediculous. First of all, it would add an element of recklessness which is already too prevelent to so many of the people riding these charity events. I saw idiots passing along the Vail Bike path at high speed around corners when there could have been oncoming traffic. Now imagine if there was an incentive to ride this way throughout the entire ride.

You would have one massive 3,500 rider start line. Impossible and really stupid unless you created a checkered start time based on rider number. But then you would have to have people tracking finishers at the end based on rider number.

I like the fact that there is no time pressure. I like racing, and am going to continue to race in the future, but the charity rides allow for a relaxed aptmosphere.

Isn't the Stonewall Century also race?

Superdex, I was actually on the while bike friday, I think I remember seeing the green one, or at least another one on squaw pass climb, but that was it...So if a white one went by you, then it was me, those BF's climb pretty well, but then again I like climbing and do pretty well at it also because of my weight and training for it..

Benjamin

I only saw a green one (and I don't remember now where, but it was later in the ride)....

I had a fun day on the bike. Rode with my girl and a good friend. We all finished. Last year I bailed out at Loveland due to the cold & rain. Not this year. Funny how it seems nobody really noticed that this was my frist time finishing this ride. Oh well.

Was a good ride. I'll be back for the 20th next year. Now on to the Copper Triangle.

Wonder if anyone noticed our Club Hypoxia jerseys? The friend we were riding with was wearing a tu-tu. You may have seen her at some point. :)

I think adding a timed aspect to these events is rediculous. First of all, it would add an element of recklessness which is already too prevelent to so many of the people riding these charity events. I saw idiots passing along the Vail Bike path at high speed around corners when there could have been oncoming traffic. Now imagine if there was an incentive to ride this way throughout the entire ride.

You would have one massive 3,500 rider start line. Impossible and really stupid unless you created a checkered start time based on rider number. But then you would have to have people tracking finishers at the end based on rider number.

I like the fact that there is no time pressure. I like racing, and am going to continue to race in the future, but the charity rides allow for a relaxed aptmosphere.

I'm curious if you are basing this statement on personal experience? As I've mentioned there are many timed centuries (and longer rides too) across the country and world and I don't recall hearing about large numbers of accidents. You don't have to have people tracking numbers as riders cross the finish. They can use chip timing like running races do, there's no reason that wouldn't work perfectly.

I will give you that I saw some sketchy stuff going on coming down Vail Pass, however I don't believe that it will be any worse if it were timed. Those types of riders are always going to do that crap!

I'd love to do more road racing too...but, the actual road racing scene in Colorado is pretty lame...there are only a few road races and - this year at least - only one in the mountains. Timed centuries gives me a chance to test my fitness against others who are more similar to me than racers that can train much more than I can...yes that may be an excuse about my fitness but, given my work and family situations I can't spend 10 hours/week on the bike.

I had a fun day on the bike. Rode with my girl and a good friend. We all finished. Last year I bailed out at Loveland due to the cold & rain. Not this year. Funny how it seems nobody really noticed that this was my frist time finishing this ride. Oh well.

Was a good ride. I'll be back for the 20th next year. Now on to the Copper Triangle.

Wonder if anyone noticed our Club Hypoxia jerseys? The friend we were riding with was wearing a tu-tu. You may have seen her at some point. :)

I did notice several people in Club Hypoxia jerseys, including the tu-tu! Even though I've not met you I wondered if it was you.

you wanna race in Colorado? here's one list -- http://bikesourceonline.com/page.cfm?PageID=128#D

There are crits twice a week too, scroll up on that page...

you wanna race in Colorado? here's one list -- http://bikesourceonline.com/page.cfm?PageID=128#D

There are crits twice a week too, scroll up on that page...

What I was saying is that there aren't a lot of actual road races...tons of crits (2 a weekend usually) but I do better in road races than in crashteriums. I love watching crits, don't like riding them!

I did notice several people in Club Hypoxia jerseys, including the tu-tu! Even though I've not met you I wondered if it was you.

Um, well... No! I was NOT wearing a TuTu! ;) My friend BikePrincess was wearing the Tutu.
Check out my photobucket of the ride, you may recognize one of us. :)
Here is me and my girlfriend at Georgetown. I know, its a goofy pic of me, but what the heck!:
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b44/zinrider/2007/Cycling/2007-7-14%20Triple%20ByPass/IMGP3090.jpg


http://s16.photobucket.com/albums/b44/zinrider/2007/Cycling/2007-7-14%20Triple%20ByPass/

Oh, forgot to mention, Sunshine1 and I put our photos and videos of the ride to music and they are out on YouTube at the following link:
http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=Zinrider