Is there a good DIY frame building jig?

[SugarPILL]

Was looking around for a good "do it yourself" frame building jig... do you all have any suggestions on a good one, preferably inexpensive.

[Nessism]

Was looking around for a good "do it yourself" frame building jig... do you all have any suggestions on a good one, preferably inexpensive.

You don't need one you just need to learn to measure straightness. A surface plate to index off of comes in pretty handy.

[Scooper]

Was looking around for a good "do it yourself" frame building jig... do you all have any suggestions on a good one, preferably inexpensive.
HERE's (http://www.instructables.com/id/EAGXSQSF18DW8ZH/) Marc Pfister's simple jig built from 80/20 T-slotted aluminum extrusions (http://fandl8020.com/), and HERE's (http://www.frameforum.net/forum2/index.php?showtopic=4107) one built of 3/4" plywood.

[mandovoodoo]

Old tombstone or some other surface plate. V Blocks from Manhattan Supply along with shim stock. Weight on top of the tubes holds them down, blocks free to float. Can use over a full size drawing, although putting down bluing and scribing works better. Then a square lets you figure position on the tubes. For lugs or lugless, tack and flip over usually works pretty well.

[SugarPILL]

Hmm, all good stuff.

If I were to go the flat plate route, would not that pose a problem of getting the braise all the way around the tubing and lug? I thought the jig held the tubes in proper position so you can get to both sides to braise?

I was thinking the plate steel base and strong magnets on v blocks. Maybe making a v block that has adj height.



edit- just read mandovoodoo, i got it flip it... didn't know if it would be safe to move not finished off

[superhotbug]

Look for the book the paterek manual, shows how to build simple jigs.

[SugarPILL]

Oh man that book is perfect, I need a copy... but first need some money, 85.00

anyone got a used copy to sell?

[Peterpan1]

Rent the film. Look on the other frame site. Compositepro has a new design he published plans for, and it's pretty cool.

One thing you want to do is match your building style to the jig, or even non-jig you are going to want. Look at the Paternek stuff for the brazing, lugs, and have a look at Anvil as an ideal for TIG. You need to get and idea for the whole process.

[SugarPILL]

Rent the film. Look on the other frame site. Compositepro has a new design he published plans for, and it's pretty cool.

One thing you want to do is match your building style to the jig, or even non-jig you are going to want. Look at the Paternek stuff for the brazing, lugs, and have a look at Anvil as an ideal for TIG. You need to get and idea for the whole process.



Which film?

i have been reading a lot about the brazing, I am glad I did, didn't realize you needed to mind what filler you used in relation to the tube properties.. i.e. heat treated tube, and air hardend tubes.

also while looking around at lugs, i found a set that is microfusion... what is that mean... I am guessing another process besides lost wax casting? Is that good or should I stay away from them, cause I really like them. but they are 50+ a set...

[Scooper]

Which film?
I think he was referring to Tim Paterek's frame building DVDs (http://www.timpaterek.com/videos.htm).

[SugarPILL]

ah, my mistake... watched the clip, seems like a good idea.

has anyone rented it, would an online rental place have it? Or is someone willing to rent it to me... I could have it back in two days.

I would trade my surfboard making and glassing vids.