I jogged a mile today

[Caincando1]

Granted it was off and on over the course of two miles. But I haven't ran or jogged in 10 plus years so I was pretty excited. I know that I need to crosstrain hard to build up my whole body in order to really get the maximun benefits from cycling. I'm not a fan of jogging, but it's nice to mix up the exersices once in a while. 363 days till RAGBRAI 08.:)

[JoeMetal]

Good job on the jogging. I can jog for about a quarter mile before I have to give up. Actually, that's probably not true anymore. In high school, I could jog for a quarter mile before I had to walk. Who knows now.

Do you by any chance have bad knees (as it seems a fair amount of Clydes do)? That is one of the main things that keeps me from running for exercise.

[Caincando1]

Good job on the jogging. I can jog for about a quarter mile before I have to give up. Actually, that's probably not true anymore. In high school, I could jog for a quarter mile before I had to walk. Who knows now.

Do you by any chance have bad knees (as it seems a fair amount of Clydes do)? That is one of the main things that keeps me from running for exercise.

My knees are fine right now, but you are right, it is pretty common. I believe that if I did a lot of high impact activiy I'd probably wear them out pretty quik. I do however have a bad foot which is how I ended up at 355lbs. I had a broken sesmoid bone for three year that never healed. The surgeon finally cut it out, which really messed my foot up and took away a lot of the natural support. That's how I got into cycling because of the low impact on my foot. I ran a ton as a teen ager. I was huge athlete and wrestled and played foot ball since I was a little kid.

[Tom Stormcrowe]

For those of us with bad knees, for cross training, I've been looking into pool running. The water provides greater resistance and eases the pressure on the knees as well.

Anyone have any input here?

[Caincando1]

For those of us with bad knees, for cross training, I've been looking into pool running. The water provides greater resistance and eases the pressure on the knees as well.

Anyone have any input here?


Funny you should say that. After I got done with my jog, walk, heart pounding our of my chest, 2 miles, I jumped in the pool. Yes I'm a firm believer in the low impact work out of a pool. I jump in the pool and wrap my legs around a noodle and swim laps with only my arms in order to work out my arms. Our pool is to short(see pictures) to swim laps so I will put my arms on the side and swim against the wall in order to work out my legs.

[The Historian]

Good job on the jogging. I can jog for about a quarter mile before I have to give up. Actually, that's probably not true anymore. In high school, I could jog for a quarter mile before I had to walk. Who knows now.

Do you by any chance have bad knees (as it seems a fair amount of Clydes do)? That is one of the main things that keeps me from running for exercise.

Here's why I don't run or hike:

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This is me at 320 pounds, May 2006. Look at the right leg, if you dare.

[Halthane]

For those of us with bad knees, for cross training, I've been looking into pool running. The water provides greater resistance and eases the pressure on the knees as well.

Anyone have any input here?

I assume you are talking about running in the pool with one of the floaty belt things. Personally I don't like it, but I can assure you it is very very good exercise. I don't like it because I'd rather swim laps and do the upper body work, but I swam competitively for years (5-18). But it is definitely good exercise. You said something in a post a few days ago about sinking like a rock... but I bet you can get over that with some technique work, if you want I can give you some suggestions.

I've recently started cross training in the pool two days a week as part of my goal to do a triathlon next June. It's good to be back in the pool again. I swim in the afternoons of days when I do very hard workouts on the bike in the morning, just do stroke work to get the heart rate up and stretch everything out, makes the recovery time after hard workouts way shorter.

[Tom Stormcrowe]

It just requires more effort to stay up than it used to. I used to be able to back float and take a nap like I was on a raft. Not any more!;) I'm actually a pretty good swimmer, just have dropped weight so fast that my brain hasn't caught up with the body is all.I assume you are talking about running in the pool with one of the floaty belt things. Personally I don't like it, but I can assure you it is very very good exercise. I don't like it because I'd rather swim laps and do the upper body work, but I swam competitively for years (5-18). But it is definitely good exercise. You said something in a post a few days ago about sinking like a rock... but I bet you can get over that with some technique work, if you want I can give you some suggestions.

I've recently started cross training in the pool two days a week as part of my goal to do a triathlon next June. It's good to be back in the pool again. I swim in the afternoons of days when I do very hard workouts on the bike in the morning, just do stroke work to get the heart rate up and stretch everything out, makes the recovery time after hard workouts way shorter.

[BigDave]

I started running when I was away from the bike for about a week. On the treadmill I could go two miles and had plenty left, but opted to stop to save the knees. My 2nd run on pavement gave me a really, really bad case of tendonitis in the left knee.

A couple of things. Stretching is of the highest priority. A lot of knee problems stem from a lack of flexibility in the knee. Take your time to stretch before and after a run. A problem cyclists have is muscle imbalance. We have tight hips, strong quads and relatively weak hamstrings. You really need to be careful to keep thing in the balance.

I am relegating running to only one day a week if I am pain free. My long term goal is a sprint triathlon which is (generally) a 5k (3.2 mi).

[Halthane]

It just requires more effort to stay up than it used to. I used to be able to back float and take a nap like I was on a raft. Not any more!;) I'm actually a pretty good swimmer, just have dropped weight so fast that my brain hasn't caught up with the body is all.

The secret is swimming downhill, and no thats not a joke

[Caincando1]

The secret is swimming downhill, and no thats not a joke


I have no idea what that means, can you explain it.:)

[v1k1ng1001]

I have a crummy left knee but I still run 4-6 miles every so often and it doesn't seem to bother it.

I'm trapped in the purgatory known as the midwest but, in PA, I used to trail run mountain fireroads at night with a headlamp and mp3 player. Running on unpaved surfaces is much easier on the knees.

I lose motivation while running because I get bored, but running at night in the woods was was great! It's much cooler, tons of wildlife, tunnel effect with the headlamp, etc. Not so practical if you have a 9-5 I guess.

[VTRoadie]

I started with being able to run maybe a tenth of a mile.. Now I regularly do 4 mi non-stop. I used the couch-to-5k program (on cool runnings) to build up from nothing, to being able to complete a 5k in just about 30 minutes (not great, but I beat alot of skinny folk).

[Caincando1]

I started with being able to run maybe a tenth of a mile.. Now I regularly do 4 mi non-stop. I used the couch-to-5k program (on cool runnings) to build up from nothing, to being able to complete a 5k in just about 30 minutes (not great, but I beat alot of skinny folk).

Good for you!

I have no plans of being a runner, but I get bored with the same exersize so I want to be able to mix my cycling with hiking, jogging, and a few others that I plan to add.

[chunkyd]

The gym i goto has heavy duty treadmills.. i do sprint runs on them.. but running outside would beat me up quite a bit.. my knees already pop and snap.. i do plan on a TRI-EVENT soon! but i'm nervous about the swimming ...at least it's first!

Any good small tri events coming up?

[JoeMetal]

The gym i goto has heavy duty treadmills.. i do sprint runs on them.. but running outside would beat me up quite a bit.. my knees already pop and snap.. i do plan on a TRI-EVENT soon! but i'm nervous about the swimming ...at least it's first!

Any good small tri events coming up?

http://www.trifind.com/

It's the best listing I've seen of upcoming triathlons. Hopefully I'll be doing one in the future...

[chunkyd]

Thanks Joe!!

When your ready let me know.. we could train for it and see what happens... i'll fall down and take out the rest of the comp so you can win! now thats teamwork! hahha :)

[BigDave]

I have no idea what that means, can you explain it.:)

+1 I need all the help I can get swimming.

[Halthane]

I have no idea what that means, can you explain it.:)

Sort of hard to explain in words for me... I first heard the phrase a couple months ago, I never thought about it in that way but I've been doing it forever. Very lean people, and strangely enough folks like myself who have been losing weight through cycling are positively buoyant on the front half (lungs hold air, air is buoyant) and have very muscular legs that are negatively buoyant, so their legs sink down and drag in the water slowing them down and causing them to work harder than necessary.

One best ways to explain the trick of swimming downhill to mitigate this is to be careful to hold your legs up and stretch your arm stroke out completely and pull the body down slightly with each stroke.

My top two tips for people learning to swim freestyle well

1) Stretch the stroke out as much as possible, extending the arm fully forward, and following through to full extension behind. keeping the elbows high when you bring them out of the water. A good stroke drill for this is to extend the arm completely to about thigh level and then drag the thumb up the side of the body all the way to the armpit, tickle yourself if you have to to be sure that you have gotten there and then drag your fingertips along the top of the water until you reach full extension, elbow straight out, then let your hand enter the water. Take time to do the drill right, slow and pretty, it will feel very funny if you aren't experienced, but you will get used to it and in time it will feel very normal. Ideally use a pull-buoy when you do this drill

2) Learn to breath on both sides of the body on odd strokes, every 3, 5, or if you have lungs of steel or are in an all out, full throttle, brain melting insane sprint, 7 or nine. This just takes time and practice.

If you want any other suggestions throw me a PM or start a new thread etc. If you live in the northeast Kansas area i'd even be willing to do some stroke clinic work.

[Caincando1]

I got a chance to go for a job again today. I bumped it up to 1.3 miles or joging and .7 miles of walking on my 2 mile route. Then I jumped on the bike for a quik 4 mile ride around the block, to keep the heart pumping, before it got dark.