General Cycling Discussion - Greetings from the wrong side of the handlebars
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07-19-03, 07:26 PM
This past week I took a tour of the Rails to Trails bike trails in Pa. and Maryland. On Monday and Tues. we enjoyed the trail at OhioPyle state park, managed 57 miles on my mtn bike, then on Wed rode the York Heritage Trail in Pa.
Thursday we rode the North Central Trail in Maryland. This trail surface is described as "finely crushed gravel or stone" It's 20 miles in length so we did a loop to give us 40mi. Before lunch we rode 26 mi and did another 14 (7 mi loop) after lunch.
Well, that 7 miles was uphill, it was mostly in the sun and hot. So on the return (downhill) I was having a blast, cruising around 16 mph when all of a sudden my bike stopped and I went flying over the handlebars.
I landed mostly on my left side and I had 2 huge holes in my left arm, I had blood to my wrist, my right leg was so bruised I could barely walk and I had road rash on the top of both thighs. I also have a badly bruised,with road rash, left hip and bruised ribs.
A rider who was following me helped put me back together and then chastised me for "riding to fast and having too much air in my tires" I was wearing a helmet, he was not. But I do thank him for cleaning me up and calming me down.
My SO rode back and walked my bike to the nearest parking lot. While I waited for him to bring the car I sat and cried.
Then I spent about five hours in the emergency room at York, Pa hospital. They X-Rayed my left arm and found a stone embedded under my skin, nothing broken. My arm was irrigated until this stone and a few smaller ones came loose. The stone was about a 1/4" long and about 1/8" wide! The Dr. didn't want to stitch the wounds because he was afraid of infection. He was very understanding of my situation, he was a cyclist!
The only real pain I am suffering is from my left elbow. It's very swollen, red, tender to the touch and I can't raise my arm or straighten it. I've been icing it but so far it's not helping. Monday I will contact my PCP and see what he says.
I was only 3 miles from the car and had 198 miles of riding for the week. I couldn't find any damage to the bike except for a very long and deep ding in the rim of the front wheel.
I can laugh about it now, at least the accident occurred at the end of the week, we were coming home today (Sat).
07-19-03, 07:30 PM
So glad you are not hurt any more than you are. Any clue what might have caused the endo?
Hope you get better fast.
07-19-03, 07:38 PM
The bike rolled fine after the accident. I plan to have my shop check it out. I'm thinking a stone got between the rim and the brake. I don't know what else could have caused it to stop dead like that.
07-19-03, 08:54 PM
Ummm...like, Ouch. :eek:
That "ding" in your front rim could be a clue to the cause of your mishap.
Glad you didn't get hurt any worse than you did.
Heal fast and ride.
There weren't any snooty Iteys riding next to you were there? :D Seriously though, sorry to hear about the mishap and hope you get riding again soon.
P.S. Nice to see somebody else from Cincinnati here!
It's also possible you hit something loose and deep (sand? loose fine gravel?). This has often brought me to an abrupt stop too. I'm glad you weren't seriously hurt. Hope you heal up soon.
07-19-03, 09:30 PM
Originally posted by khuon
It's also possible you hit something loose and deep (sand? loose fine gravel?).
My first guess would be a patch of sand - there are few (if any) things that can cause a crash like that the way sand can. Either way, I hope you heal soon.
07-19-03, 10:15 PM
When I was in highschool in Jamestown, N.Y. Me and three on my friends would drive down to OhioPyle every spring and run the Youghagheny (I totally mutilated the spelling I'm sure)
07-20-03, 12:11 PM
A stick can easily get caught bewteen the sokes, causing an quick endo. This happend to myself once, and suprisingly, it left no damage to the wheel or the bike. The guy that told you about having "too much air in your tires" was likely an idiot.
07-20-03, 12:38 PM
Get well quick. Sounds like you did an awlsome trip.
What would too much air do?
07-20-03, 01:52 PM
ow! i hope you recover quickly and fully!
how could having too much pressure cause an endo?
Originally posted by Dave Stohler
A stick can easily get caught bewteen the sokes, causing an quick endo.
I once had a front wheel reflector turn sideways on me like that... lodging itself against the fork legs. This stopped the wheel dead and endo'ed me at speed.
Originally posted by Dave Stohler
This happend to myself once, and suprisingly, it left no damage to the wheel or the bike.
Unfortunately, I cannot say the same... The front wheel had to be relaced. I lost about half a dozen spokes and my bike was unridable. Plus my helmet was cracked. I had to walk several miles out of the woods cut up and bleeding before I was able to get to a phone booth to call my parents who ended up driving 40 miles to come get me. I was a teenager at the time and mobile phones were the size of phone books. Since then I have never ridden with wheel reflectors.
07-20-03, 03:27 PM
16mph too fast? Get a grip. I think you were just unfortunate. Hope it heals quickly. Don't let this put you off, though, or cause you to slow down too much.
I also endo'd about 4 weks ago, dislocated my shoulder (again) buth that was because I pick a wrong line: near zero speed. These things happen.
Had a scary incident with wheel reflector many years ago on my first road bike - it came loose and zinged out of the wheels at 25 mph as I accelerated downhill. Haven't used them since.
07-20-03, 04:33 PM
Thanks for the support, guys. I couldn't figure out why 16 mph was too fast either. I did have the tires inflated high but not enough to cause any lack of control.
I was happy that I got that 24 lb mtn bike to go that fast. I sure can tell the difference that 5 lbs in weight makes to the rider. My road bike is around 18 lbs.
No reflectors on either bike. The wheels and tires are new, Cane Creek Zona SS wheels and Ritchey Zed Pro tires, took 2+lbs. off the weight of the bike.
I think a stone got caught between the rim and brake because of the ding in the front wheel. But no one thought to look for evidence of what caused the endo.
My Zeal Optics sunglasses survived without a scratch!
I think the speed kept me from breaking bones. I basically bounced. Four yrs ago almost to the date I fell off this same bike at 3mph and broke my wrist.
A couple of years ago I got a stick between the rim and brake of my road bike. But the stick was soft and I had time to unclick and put my foot down.
MKRG, guess you won't see me riding the trails around here for awhile!
07-20-03, 05:24 PM
BTW, my heart rate monitor records my hr every 15 sec. I went from 115 (road crossing) steadily climbed to 140 then jumped to 156, then fell to 132 (I remembered to turn it off). Based on the fact that I was only at 140 before I fell I could have pedaled faster, I generally train around 145 - 150.
I consider myself lucky. This weekend a woman in our bicycle club went off the trail near Xenia, hit a tree, broke a couple of ribs and punctured a lung. No one is sure what happened.
07-20-03, 06:24 PM
Aw nuts! Milk it for all it's worth :D
07-20-03, 08:47 PM
My friends are suggesting that I shouldn't ride my mtn bike any more because I keep getting hurt on it. Isn't this an excuse for a new one?
07-20-03, 08:49 PM
Your story was extremely painful to read. I'm happy you weren't hurt badly, and hope you heal well.
A long time ago, I used to commute to and from a job by bicycle. On the route home, which was after dark, I would take a shortcut through a church parking lot to get to another street. I would pretty much fly into the parking lot without breaking pace. On the particular night in question, someone had decided to stretch a chain across the drive entrance. It hit just below my handlebars, stopped the bike dead, and of course, since I wasn't wearing my seatbelt, I was airborne for about 20 ft. When I landed, it took me a moment to even realize what had happened. Not hurt though, surprisingly(been through alot of those "surprisingly not hurt" type accidents).
Anyway, get well. You sound like you have a good spirit. And sure, why not a new bike.:)
Originally posted by lovemyswift
Isn't this an excuse for a new one?
One never needs an excuse for a new bike. ;) One only needs the proper funds. :)
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