Electric Bikes - Choose A Fastest Folding Bike For Ebike Conversion? Dahon Matrix or Speed Pro/TT?

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lyen
07-25-07, 12:26 PM
I am in the process of buying a folding bike to go to work. The current one I have is too slow & heavy. I need something fast in terms of speed & lightweight. I'm 170lbs & 37 years old. My current candidate would be either the Dahon Matrix or the Dahon Speed Pro & possibly the Speed Pro TT. Which one do you think is faster? Which one is more suitable to conversion? Both have aluminum frame. The matrix has 26" wheel @ 26lbs and the Speed Pro has 20" wheel @ 23lbs. Or are there any faster folding bikes? I will be putting the Phoenix motor from ElectricRider.com (X-Lyte 5303) and possibly using the 72V Cystalite 40A controller. Any suggestions if money is no object? :)


Lowell_
07-25-07, 01:37 PM
How fast do you want to go? Are you looking for top cruising speed, or acceleration, or a mix of both? A 5304/20" with 72V of lithium would make for a pretty good all around bike.

lyen
07-26-07, 10:29 AM
I'd like to go around up to 45mph or 72kph. I preferred a mix of both the cruising speed and acceleration since there is a lot of stop & go traffic in the city of San Francisco. The Crystalyte 5304 with 20" is probably the right choice but the maximum speed would probably be around 35mph. I know what I want sounds insane but I have simulate & test how it is like by going around the city traffic from home to work with my VW Beetle. I have purposely limited the maximum speed on my Beetle to run 45mph max from home to work on a 12 miles of distance run. It turns out the average speed is around 24mph with hills, turns, and traffic lights. So I hope you get my point on why I want something that can go up to 45mph although it will rarely happen anyways.


The7
07-26-07, 10:48 AM
I'd like to go around up to 45mph or 72kph.

Would like mine could do this as well !!

Lowell_
07-26-07, 02:36 PM
Ok, the 5304/20" with a 510mm diameter tire, will go 71km/h with about 87v at the controller. That's with an unfaired, upright mountain bike, dual crown fork and fat 24x2.5" front tire. I'm not sure if a small wheeled bent would have better or worse aero, but this combo would definitely put you in the ballpark for speed.
With a 25 cell lithium pack (92.5v) you would definitely get the speed you're looking for, plus a bit extra :)

zoridog
08-19-07, 08:42 AM
I am in the process of buying a folding bike to go to work. The current one I have is too slow & heavy. I need something fast in terms of speed & lightweight. I'm 170lbs & 37 years old. My current candidate would be either the Dahon Matrix or the Dahon Speed Pro & possibly the Speed Pro TT. Which one do you think is faster? Which one is more suitable to conversion? Both have aluminum frame. The matrix has 26" wheel @ 26lbs and the Speed Pro has 20" wheel @ 23lbs. Or are there any faster folding bikes? I will be putting the Phoenix motor from ElectricRider.com (X-Lyte 5303) and possibly using the 72V Cystalite 40A controller. Any suggestions if money is no object? :)
Let us know how the project turns out. I'm interested in the Phoenix on a folder myself.

The7
08-19-07, 09:31 AM
If you do really like to pedal occasionally, 26" wheel is better.

Grun
08-19-07, 12:00 PM
I'd like to go around up to 45mph or 72kph. I preferred a mix of both the cruising speed and acceleration since there is a lot of stop & go traffic in the city of San Francisco. The Crystalyte 5304 with 20" is probably the right choice but the maximum speed would probably be around 35mph. I know what I want sounds insane but I have simulate & test how it is like by going around the city traffic from home to work with my VW Beetle. I have purposely limited the maximum speed on my Beetle to run 45mph max from home to work on a 12 miles of distance run. It turns out the average speed is around 24mph with hills, turns, and traffic lights. So I hope you get my point on why I want something that can go up to 45mph although it will rarely happen anyways.

Is the folding hinge even safe at that speed?

MikeHow
12-02-08, 06:44 AM
Let us know how the project turns out. I'm interested in the Phoenix on a folder myself.

Me too.

I understand this is a pretty old thread...maybe some other people have tried something like this?

JinbaIttai
12-03-08, 12:39 AM
I am also curious about this. I understand the space-saving that a folding bike brings, but I wonder about safety at speed, and also, could you even fold it up with a hub motor, controller, and battery bag?

crackerdog
12-03-08, 12:09 PM
It's such an old thread, you could probably look at hospital records to see how it worked. I can't even imagine how heavy and unsafe that beast would be. If a person wanted to go a normal speed, I would suggest a geared hub motor. Then it could be carried after it is folded.

MikeHow
12-03-08, 12:36 PM
I'd like to point out that, while I did bring this thread back from the dead because I was interested in doing something like this......I certainly don't want to try to get a foldable bike to go 45 mph.

Just wondering if there's a way to end up with something similar to the ezee quando....but with a little more oomph than the 15 mph or whatever that bike's supposed to top out at.

cerewa
12-03-08, 02:32 PM
many folding bikes are quite safe at 25mph and you can certainly get a motor that'll power them at that speed. Crystalyte 405 or 404 would probably do the trick, running somewhere around 36 or 48 volts.