Will Contador wear yellow at the start tomorrow?

I think he does not officially get the overall lead until Ras is officially out after a DNS.
So he starts out as "virtual yellow" tomorrow, but doesn't get to don yellow unless he finishes the stage as leader on GC.

So 2 1/2 weeks into the tour, and there is no yellow jersey. Odd.

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EDIT:
Thought of this later:

(see post #8)
On the other hand, he is 2nd on GC.
When someone who is 1st for Green or the Mountains or Youngest Rider can't wear his jersey (because he's also in yellow), then the guy who is 2nd in that competition is required to wear it.

In this case the guy who is supposed to wear yellow can't (because he's not there), so by the same logic they may require the guy who is 2nd in that competition to wear it.

So then the guy who is 2nd in the young rider's category will wear white.

So 2 1/2 weeks into the tour, and there is no yellow jersey. Odd.

and 54.5 weeks later we still don't know who won the 2006 TDF :eek:!

ed rader

If Rabbobank pulled Ras and there is no doubt he is out - maybe the Contador will get yellow to start.

Yes he will be in yellow, because the race rules dictate it. Armstrong tried to not wear the yellow jersey after Dave Z crashed in the team time-trial. Armstrong thought CSC would have won the TTT without the crash and tried to wear the standard Discovery jersey instead.

The tour director told him to wear the maillot jaune or go home. Contador will be told the same thing. The leader of the race wears the leaders jersey, plain and simple.

The Tour is bigger than Rasmussen.

If Ras had crashed & not finished, Contador would wear yellow. If Ras hadn't been allowed to start, Contador would be in yellow. Yes, he will wear it. He has earned it.

Whatever le Tour directors want - that's what will happen for sure.

... Brad

Yes he will be in yellow, because the race rules dictate it. Armstrong tried to not wear the yellow jersey after Dave Z crashed in the team time-trial. Armstrong thought CSC would have won the TTT without the crash and tried to wear the standard Discovery jersey instead.

The tour director told him to wear the maillot jaune or go home. Contador will be told the same thing. The leader of the race wears the leaders jersey, plain and simple.

The Tour is bigger than Rasmussen.
That's a different case. At the end of the TTT stage, Lance was ahead on GC. It was because of the crash, but he officially was recorded as 1st on GC. He stood on top of the podium at the end of the day in yellow. That is not the case for AC. At the end of the stage, on the podium, he was 2nd on GC.

I think nothing official happens again until the start of tomorrow's stage, at which point Ras will get a DNS. But, officially, at the end of today, and thus at the start tomorrow, Ras is still in yellow.

That's a different case. At the end of the TTT stage, Lance was ahead on GC. It was because of the crash, but he officially was recorded as 1st on GC. He stood on top of the podium at the end of the day in yellow. That is not the case for AC. At the end of the stage, on the podium, he was 2nd on GC.

I think nothing official happens again until the start of tomorrow's stage, at which point Ras will get a DNS. But, officially, at the end of today, and thus at the start tomorrow, Ras is still in yellow.
On the other hand, he is 2nd on GC.
When someone who is 1st for Green or the Mountains or Youngest Rider can't wear his jersey (because he's also in yellow), then the guy who is 2nd in that competition is required to wear it.

In this case the guy who is supposed to wear yellow can't (because he's not there), so by the same logic they may require the guy who is 2nd in that competition to wear it.

So then the guy who is 2nd in the young rider's category will wear white.

Sponsors pay big money to have their names on the yellow jersey, so I'd say Contador will be wearing it.

Whatever le Tour directors want - that's what will happen for sure.

... Brad

Bingo... Remember the Armstrong - DZ incident of 05

I have no idea what the official rules are but as a guy who works in public relations, I'd bet my coffee break that the promotors and media people will do everything they can to ensure a yellow jersey for tomorrow's ride. And that's the way I'd bet.

Sponsors pay big money to have their names on the yellow jersey, so I'd say Contador will be wearing it.

+1

Development/corporate sponsorship for the Tour is most likely contractually obligated to make sure that the yellow jersey is visible (unless the sponsor agreed to it).

It's not up to riders.

Will Contador wear yellow at the start tomorrow?

I think he does not officially get the overall lead until Ras is officially out after a DNS.
So he starts out as "virtual yellow" tomorrow, but doesn't get to don yellow unless he finishes the stage as leader on GC.

So 2 1/2 weeks into the tour, and there is no yellow jersey. Odd.

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EDIT:
Thought of this later:

(see post #8)
On the other hand, he is 2nd on GC.
When someone who is 1st for Green or the Mountains or Youngest Rider can't wear his jersey (because he's also in yellow), then the guy who is 2nd in that competition is required to wear it.

In this case the guy who is supposed to wear yellow can't (because he's not there), so by the same logic they may require the guy who is 2nd in that competition to wear it.

So then the guy who is 2nd in the young rider's category will wear white.

In this case, the runner up for the white jersey is the KOM leader. Will the white jersey then go to the 3rd place young rider?

I voted no, because I think they'll kick out Contador tonight.

I don't care whether Contador wears yellow tomorrow in literal terms. This is all lost for this year.

In this case, the runner up for the white jersey is the KOM leader. Will the white jersey then go to the 3rd place young rider?

I'd suppose so. Amets TXURRUKA should roll out in the white.

maddyfish - you're gaining ground in the jade jersey competition. That's the one awarded for being the most cynical. You have some stiff competition though. :p :D

...That is not the case for AC. At the end of the stage, on the podium, he was 2nd on GC.


Yes, but regardless of how it happened, Contador is now #1 on the GC. He is the leader of the race and the rules of the Tour dictate that the race leader wears the yellow jersey.

As a PR move, AC and Discovery will pretend they didn't want him to wear yellow; but then "concede" that the race organizers made him do it.

Hopefully, Discovery will continue as if they should having a rider in yellow, and defend it with professionalism.

Yes, but regardless of how it happened, Contador is now #1 on the GC. He is the leader of the race and the rules of the Tour dictate that the race leader wears the yellow jersey.

As a PR move, AC and Discovery will pretend they didn't want him to wear yellow; but then "concede" that the race organizers made him do it.

Hopefully, Discovery will continue as if they should having a rider in yellow, and defend it with professionalism.
But the question is: is Contador now, at this very moment, officially #1 on GC? That is, is Rasmussen officially out? Can anything official happen in the standings when the clock is not running?

At this moment on the official website, www.letour.fr, it's all Ras.

I looked up the rules. Per the 2006 rules (http://www.letour.fr/2006/TDF/LIVE/docs/reglement_2006_us.pdf) (can't find the 2007 rules), the leader on GC is required to wear the yellow jersey starting at sign-in. Also, rankings are determined at the end of each stage. At the end of today's stage, Ras was determined to be leading on GC, not AC. So it would be presumptive of AC to show up in yellow at sign-in tomorrow. Yet if he's the official leader on GC, then he's required to wear it at sign-in. What a pickle!

I'm back to thinking they're going to have no yellow until the end of the stage, just like they had no yellow at the prologue. I predict Paul will have a field day explaining all this, trying to make it sound more complex than it really is.

I think NOBODY should wear yellow tomorrow.

^^^ i kinda agree too. it would be symbolic (in a cheesy sort of way) that no one wins with doping.

The situation of Rasmussen not being officially out until a DNS (depending on what the protocol for this is) could delay it until on the road, but by the end of the stage, contador will certainly be wearing it.

^^^ i kinda agree too. it would be symbolic (in a cheesy sort of way) that no one wins with doping.

The situation of Rasmussen not being officially out until a DNS (depending on what the protocol for this is) could delay it until on the road, but by the end of the stage, contador will certainly be wearing it.
Of course (unless he somehow loses time, of course). No one is questioning that. The question is whether he will be wearing yellow AT THE START of tomorrow's (well, today's) stage.

I suspect there will be no rider in yellow for today's stage.

I voted no, because I think they'll kick out Contador tonight.

Fully agree, the way competitors are being kicked out on doping alegations, I think that on the end the anti-doping lab technicians will cross the line on Sunday in Paris!

Answer from the TdF Site

Jersey holders
BOONEN T.QSI - green
SOLER HERNANDEZ J.BAR - KOM
CONTADOR A.DSC - white

nothing else.

Patrice Clerc has just said at the start that Contador has the yellow.

But will he wear it?

I'm watching and waiting to see!!

george

contador has signed in in the white jersey

So who the heck is yellow?

Yep, due to the unusual circumstances surrounding the retirement of Michael Rasmussen, winner of two stages and leader in general classification, there will be no yellow jersey in the race today. Not verbatim but stolen for the tour website.

They will present a new yellow at the end of this stage

Patrice Clerc, the President of ASO, and Christian Prudhomme, the director of the Tour de France, have held a press conference in Pau before the start of the 17th stage. The race organizers accept the responsible decision of the Dutch team. The other riders from Rabobank will be at the start. A new yellow jersey will be presented to the leader of the general classification at the end of stage 17.

More wrong (53%) than right (47%) on this one...

Does everyone now understand why no one wore yellow today?