classic1
07-27-07, 01:55 AM
http://www.thesoapboxroadshow.com/mediac/400_0/media/DIR_18024/schultz.jpg
We just need to work out who Colonel Klink is - I suggest Pat McQuaid.
We just need to work out who Colonel Klink is - I suggest Pat McQuaid.
Professional Cycling For the Fans - Boonen on Cheats
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07-27-07, 06:49 AM
So true my friend!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/reallyoldpunk/600_tennis.jpg
Hmmm....brow ridge...huge chin...enlarged cartiledge on the nose ...abnormal musculature....yeah
And don't forget music...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/reallyoldpunk/sid.jpg
Damn cheaters! (Sex Pistols, Hendrix, the Doors, AC/DC, Nirvana....okay...EVERYONE out of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame)
If you think for one second that Serina Williams photo is not altered, then you are nuts. The one arm is 3 times the size of the other, and is 10x more sweaty. and the lighting is not consistent.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/reallyoldpunk/600_tennis.jpg
Hmmm....brow ridge...huge chin...enlarged cartiledge on the nose ...abnormal musculature....yeah
And don't forget music...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/reallyoldpunk/sid.jpg
Damn cheaters! (Sex Pistols, Hendrix, the Doors, AC/DC, Nirvana....okay...EVERYONE out of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame)
If you think for one second that Serina Williams photo is not altered, then you are nuts. The one arm is 3 times the size of the other, and is 10x more sweaty. and the lighting is not consistent.
indygreg
07-27-07, 06:53 AM
It doesn't, that's the point. Sports Illustrated runs an editorial decrying PED's in cycling while turning a blind eye to what goes on in the NFL and MLB (the sports they make the most money off of). You can't have it both ways. The average NFL'er gets tested once per year, the average cyclist 30 plus times (a lot of them in the off season). You tell me who is really serious about getting rid of PED's in their sport.
But then again, at least they will take a stand on dog fighting.
You are really clueless. SI has KILLED Barry Bonds. In fact, they released the first part of 'game of shadows'. SI is very anti PED and has regularly pounded on McGuire, Sosa, etc.
But then again, at least they will take a stand on dog fighting.
You are really clueless. SI has KILLED Barry Bonds. In fact, they released the first part of 'game of shadows'. SI is very anti PED and has regularly pounded on McGuire, Sosa, etc.
merlinextraligh
07-27-07, 08:02 AM
If you think for one second that Serina Williams photo is not altered, then you are nuts. The one arm is 3 times the size of the other, and is 10x more sweaty. and the lighting is not consistent.
There may be some camera angle effect going on, and it may have been altered. But she's a Tennis player. Her right arm gets more work, and there are a number of other shots on reputable websites where she's very buff, and her right arm looks bigger. e.g.:
http://english.people.com.cn/200409/27/images/0926_D98.jpg http://www.chroniclejournal.com/includes/CP_stories/43/43921.jpg
And the fact that the arms are not symmetrical might argue that the image wasn't doctored (or the manipulator did a careless job.)
BTW, I'm not drawing a conclusion about Serena, just find Photoshop manipulation interesting.
There may be some camera angle effect going on, and it may have been altered. But she's a Tennis player. Her right arm gets more work, and there are a number of other shots on reputable websites where she's very buff, and her right arm looks bigger. e.g.:
http://english.people.com.cn/200409/27/images/0926_D98.jpg http://www.chroniclejournal.com/includes/CP_stories/43/43921.jpg
And the fact that the arms are not symmetrical might argue that the image wasn't doctored (or the manipulator did a careless job.)
BTW, I'm not drawing a conclusion about Serena, just find Photoshop manipulation interesting.
R.O.P.
07-29-07, 11:56 PM
If you think for one second that Serina Williams photo is not altered, then you are nuts. The one arm is 3 times the size of the other, and is 10x more sweaty. and the lighting is not consistent.
You, my friend, are as stupid as f*ck. I played pro tennis, everyone's dominate arm is much, much larger than the other. (Look at some old photo's of Bjorn Bjorg, in particular, his left arm looks emaciated compared to the the tree trunk right arm.) The photo of Serena is from the NY Times, feel free to present your accusations to their editorial staff, genius. Let me know what their response is. Really! Serena looks like she should be a pro wrestler. Steroids are definitely involved. If you can't see it in a tennis player, where the signs are obvious, you lose any privilege to discuss performance enhancers in cyclists.
Never mind here's a Borg photo for you....
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/reallyoldpunk/bjorn_borg.jpg
...feel free to go through all pro tennis players photos since the 70's. It's amazing! By your argument, they have ALL been photo shopped! BTW, I am NOT saying Borg doped, just that all tennis players have a disparity in arm size. You look at the points I brought up in the original Serena photo i posted, the steroids clearly show themselves (especially when compared to photos from her early years, particularly, but not limited to, her face).
And if you think Bonds has been killed, you are clearly in denial (or delusional). People have been booted from cycling races and had their careers killed for a lot less than Bonds. Last i saw, Bonds was still in pursuit of Aaron's record...hmmm...how has he been "killed"? Is baseball been declared dead due to doping by SI? Football? Soccer? Which sport has the most comprehensive testing in all of professional sport and actually caught AND punished the most cheaters? Oh yeah, cycling, the SI proclaimed "dead sport".
You, my friend, are as stupid as f*ck. I played pro tennis, everyone's dominate arm is much, much larger than the other. (Look at some old photo's of Bjorn Bjorg, in particular, his left arm looks emaciated compared to the the tree trunk right arm.) The photo of Serena is from the NY Times, feel free to present your accusations to their editorial staff, genius. Let me know what their response is. Really! Serena looks like she should be a pro wrestler. Steroids are definitely involved. If you can't see it in a tennis player, where the signs are obvious, you lose any privilege to discuss performance enhancers in cyclists.
Never mind here's a Borg photo for you....
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/reallyoldpunk/bjorn_borg.jpg
...feel free to go through all pro tennis players photos since the 70's. It's amazing! By your argument, they have ALL been photo shopped! BTW, I am NOT saying Borg doped, just that all tennis players have a disparity in arm size. You look at the points I brought up in the original Serena photo i posted, the steroids clearly show themselves (especially when compared to photos from her early years, particularly, but not limited to, her face).
And if you think Bonds has been killed, you are clearly in denial (or delusional). People have been booted from cycling races and had their careers killed for a lot less than Bonds. Last i saw, Bonds was still in pursuit of Aaron's record...hmmm...how has he been "killed"? Is baseball been declared dead due to doping by SI? Football? Soccer? Which sport has the most comprehensive testing in all of professional sport and actually caught AND punished the most cheaters? Oh yeah, cycling, the SI proclaimed "dead sport".
I saw Elvis
07-30-07, 01:01 AM
What's the solution? Well I think golf might have the answer. I think they should start a Senior UCI tour, and open it to riders who are 35 and older. You're extending these guys' careers, and eliminating one of the pressures they face to cheat.
Now that is a good idea, there is already a senior world track champs, so why not on the road?
Now that is a good idea, there is already a senior world track champs, so why not on the road?