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flip18436572
07-27-07, 08:07 AM
#1. How do you keep sweat out of your eyes? I wear sun glasses and a helmet, and even when it isn't 90+ degrees out, I am working hard enough to sweat a lot. The inside of my helmet has a little padding that looks like it should absorb some sweat, but after those 5 drops, what do I do? I don't want to have to put on a bandana and the helmet and the sun glasses, but when the salt from the sweat gets into the eyes, I have a problem.

#2. Do they make a bike short that doesn't have a SUPER HEAVY DUTY MAXI PAD in it for the "taint" pad? I have the Aerotech Designs bike shorts for the 36-38 waist, and the pad inside is twice as wide as the widest part of my seat. I really don't use over 1/2 of the taint pad that is there, and almost zero percent of the pad for the "butt" area. I ride a road only bike and maybe because I am in the forward position most of the time, I need to look at a different design of bike shorts.

#3. What do you look for in bike gloves? I am thinking of cutting the ends off of some of my "mechanics" gloves that I have worn out the finger tips on and trying that, if there isn't a special glove for biking that make some sense.

Any help to any of the questions would be greatly appreciated.

Shubox
07-27-07, 08:12 AM
#1 www.buffusa.com

#2 I have no clue here

#3 bike gloves from my understanding have padding in the palms to reduce vibration.

Caincando1
07-27-07, 08:20 AM
1. Sweat band with gutter. I'll post more info if I can find it.

2. Yes you can get all thicknesses of padding.

3. For me, lots of padding. I like the thick gel ones.

Scummer
07-27-07, 08:55 AM
Padding for the gloves so the palms of your hand don't start to hurt on long rides.

(51)
07-27-07, 09:07 AM
1. Sweat band with gutter. I'll post more info if I can find it.



I'll help:

http://www.sweatgutr.com/

I bought one for my father-in-law. He claims it works.

shog
07-27-07, 09:15 AM
1. I use Headsweats do-rags with the built in headband - works fine for me and I'm mostly bald and sweat like crazy
2. Don't know
3. Something with a padded palm but not too thick and not excessively tight. Too tight can reduce blood circulation and lead to numbness in your hands (In addition to all the other things that cause hand numbness!).

tompete
07-27-07, 09:18 AM
#1 Headband from Halo. I got one this year, works great, fits under helmet just fine. They make a variety of products.

flip18436572
07-27-07, 09:25 AM
I will probably buy a sweatgutr. That looks like what I need.

How about the taint pad on bike shorts?

I will look into something with some gel padding and then try some on to make sure they are not too tight.

Caincando1
07-27-07, 09:29 AM
I use a Halo II

http://store.haloheadband.com/halo_II_pullover_s/9.htm

I guess I shouldn't call it a gutter, because there is an actual Gutr like (51) posted

markhr
07-27-07, 10:32 AM
1 - never been able to do it, I just grin and bear it - try wearing a sweat band or skull cap under your helmet maybe?

2 - sorry - I have maxi pad pants too but mine are really comfortable - Lusso coolmax bibs but I thik the company may have gone bust

3 - my vote too - I much prefer non-padded full finger gloves - as well as mechanix try
swms gloves - either vent or heat grip
pearl izumi zilch glove
oakley SI assault gloves
there are a few other models but I can't remeber them now sorry

Bob Loblaw
07-27-07, 11:27 AM
As an alternative to gloves, you can get gel inserts for under your bar tape from fizik.
http://www.fizik.com/shop_products.aspx?cat=bartape

It's quite comfy and you don't need to wear gloves at all.

alloutdoors
07-27-07, 11:40 AM
+1 to the sweat gut'r, I just got one and it works pretty well.

As far as shorts/bibs go, I have a pair of Pearl Izumi Microsensor bibs with the 3d pro pad and the taint area is fairly thin, but dense. I think if you move to more "pro-style" shorts or bibs it will remove the maxi pad feeling.

Gloves are an individual choice like some many things. When I buy gloves that have a thick gel pad, the pad breaks down after a few weeks. You will probably just have to try them out until you find a pair you like.

flip18436572
07-27-07, 11:57 AM
I am going to buy the sweat gut'r as it looks like it is designed for what I want. I have used bandanas and other wraps and they work for about 10 to 15 minutes and then they can't handle any more of my sweat and I am wiping sweat off. I will give it a shot.

I looked at some of the higher dollar shorts and they look like they have a smaller pad and that might be what I want.

I will have to try some different gloves, but I want to have something on my hands in case of a crash. Other than that I really don't care if I have them or not.

v1k1ng1001
07-27-07, 12:12 PM
I hate the halo sweatbands. That plastic part digs into my forehead and I end up turning it inside out.

I've been using headsweats headbands and they work pretty well. My Pearl Izumi sweatband is really nice, but not as large so it saturates on longer rides.

Terrierman
07-27-07, 01:53 PM
1. Skull caps rule the world of sweat management. You can buy a white Nike one at any sporting goods store, I just wash mine out after every ride. And sometimes in the middle of the ride too. Nice cooling effect too.
2. Don't know, the regular ones don't bother me anymore.
3. Hate gloves except in cold weather. But the knit ones with padded palm look decent for somebody that wants to wear them. There are lots of brands that look similar to me, trek, pearl izumi, etc.

v1k1ng1001
07-27-07, 02:46 PM
I only wear gloves when I know I'm going to sweat buckets or when it's raining so that I can improve my grip on the bar, hoods, etc. Otherwise gloves don't make much sense to me.

I always, always, always ride with an XL sweatband on one arm.

Tom Stormcrowe
07-27-07, 02:51 PM
I only wear gloves when I know I'm going to sweat buckets or when it's raining so that I can improve my grip on the bar, hoods, etc. Otherwise gloves don't make much sense to me.

I always, always, always ride with an XL sweatband on one arm.

Gloves save your hands from getting torn up with road rash, when.....not if you hit the road. Always plan around a crash happening rather than trusting to luck it won't.

For sweat, I either wear a doo rag as a skullcap or my Bianchi hat under the helmet.

v1k1ng1001
07-27-07, 02:56 PM
Gloves save your hands from getting torn up with road rash, when.....not if you hit the road. Always plan around a crash happening rather than trusting to luck it won't.

For sweat, I either wear a doo rag as a skullcap or my Bianchi hat under the helmet.

I'm a snowboarder. When I go over the bar (once a month on my mountain bike), I never stick out my hands. Always go down on my shoulder and roll. :D

solveg
07-27-07, 04:19 PM
I've never worn gloves, either. Even back in the day when I rode a lot. I keep a pair with me, though, in case it gets a little chilly.

Tom Stormcrowe
07-27-07, 05:10 PM
I'm a snowboarder. When I go over the bar (once a month on my mountain bike), I never stick out my hands. Always go down on my shoulder and roll. :D

Same here, but I'm strapped to the bike by the feet......a roll isn't always possible and I'll be landing on pavement in traffic instead of a nice soft dirt trail.;):eek:

late
07-27-07, 05:42 PM
Hi,
that Aerotech short has an unusually large pad. Get a pair of good bike shorts, the black lycra ones.

Funny thing about pads, there are a bunch of different designs and everybody
has their own take on what works. I only ride Boure Pro, but I think I am the only guy here that does. Pearl Izumi makes great shorts if you have long legs. Velowear.com has good shorts. Then there are the crazy expensive shorts like Assos and Castelli. A lot of people start out with moderately priced shorts and then each short seems to be more expensive than the last until they find one they like.
http://www.performancebike.com/shop/sub_cat.cfm?subcategory_id=1120

I like this glove..
http://www.pearlizumi.com/product.php?mode=view&product_id=793156&type_id=1&sport_id=5&category_id=9&color_code=021

Wogsterca
07-27-07, 06:20 PM
#1. How do you keep sweat out of your eyes? I wear sun glasses and a helmet, and even when it isn't 90+ degrees out, I am working hard enough to sweat a lot. The inside of my helmet has a little padding that looks like it should absorb some sweat, but after those 5 drops, what do I do? I don't want to have to put on a bandana and the helmet and the sun glasses, but when the salt from the sweat gets into the eyes, I have a problem.

#2. Do they make a bike short that doesn't have a SUPER HEAVY DUTY MAXI PAD in it for the "taint" pad? I have the Aerotech Designs bike shorts for the 36-38 waist, and the pad inside is twice as wide as the widest part of my seat. I really don't use over 1/2 of the taint pad that is there, and almost zero percent of the pad for the "butt" area. I ride a road only bike and maybe because I am in the forward position most of the time, I need to look at a different design of bike shorts.

#3. What do you look for in bike gloves? I am thinking of cutting the ends off of some of my "mechanics" gloves that I have worn out the finger tips on and trying that, if there isn't a special glove for biking that make some sense.

Any help to any of the questions would be greatly appreciated.

1) If a bandanna works for you, go with it. One thing you can do, is take the bandanna and soak in cool or cold water, wring it out, and then put it on, the cool bandanna will help cool your head.

2) You might write or email the company, telling them about needing a smaller pad, it could be they do not realize that some people would like a smaller pad. Might be a whole new product line, and might net you a few free pair for suggesting it.

3) A good palm pad, some gloves, like my Louis Garneau full fingered MTB gloves, have hard armour on the outside of the first two fingers, as this part of the hand can be easily damaged in an unplanned dismount.:eek:

Tom Stormcrowe
07-27-07, 08:54 PM
By the way, a thought, if you want a smaller Chamois, look at Triathlon shorts.

v1k1ng1001
07-27-07, 09:31 PM
Same here, but I'm strapped to the bike by the feet......a roll isn't always possible and I'll be landing on pavement in traffic instead of a nice soft dirt trail.;):eek:

I know you're not a clipless pedal guy, but the predictability of clipping out really helps in those situations. It's been a long, long time since I've dumped my road bike. I should probably buy some gloves after saying that.

flip18436572
07-28-07, 08:41 AM
By the way, a thought, if you want a smaller Chamois, look at Triathlon shorts.

I was thinking about that, since the reason I started biking was to compete in a triathlon next year. I guess I never expected the chamois to be that big and so much of it unused. Even if I would sit up

late
07-28-07, 12:52 PM
Hi,
I got an Aeotech short once and sent it back. Didn't like the pad.
Triathlete pads are super thin. I suggest trying a pair of regular shorts
before you try exotic stuff.

Just an FYI, the Pro pad on Boure shorts is very thin (by my standards).
Not as thin as the hankies triathletes use, but thin.
http://www.boure.com/1100.html

Pinyon
07-28-07, 02:51 PM
I sweat a lot, and sweat bands and the like don't work for me. I prefer a bare head beneath my helmet, and have developed techniques for blinking hard one-eye-at-a-time, and squeezing the back of one terry-cloth-backed glove thumb behind my sunglasses.
Thick pads don't bother me at all, except for gel pads. Gel is too bulky and...squishy.
I like bike gloves with decent cell-foam padded palms, especially after they are good and broken-in. They are a little bit too much for me when I first start using them. Gel gloves feel nice at first, but all of the gel quickly gets squeezed away from where you put your hands the most often, and you may as well have no padding at all. My road bike is an old and harsh aluminum frame, though. I don't know if you need as much padding with shocks, carbon forks, or steel framed bikes.

fifthcircle
07-28-07, 06:29 PM
I'm a snowboarder. When I go over the bar (once a month on my mountain bike), I never stick out my hands. Always go down on my shoulder and roll. :D

It's amazing how good you get at falling when you snow ski/board. I am with you here viking :D

v1k1ng1001
07-28-07, 07:36 PM
It's amazing how good you get at falling when you snow ski/board. I am with you here viking :D

Great minds must think alike because I also have an '06 Buenos Aires. I thought they were gimmicky until I rode one. Couple thousand miles later and the only thing I can complain about is the wheels. The frame is fantastic.

v1k1ng1001
07-28-07, 07:37 PM
Oh, I was also going to add that a great alternative to padded gloves is padded bar tape. I have big hands so I love the stuff. Works wonders on aluminum frames.

Michel Gagnon
07-28-07, 11:56 PM
#1. How do you keep sweat out of your eyes?

A helmet that allows air to go along the forehead. I can't stand those helmets that have a plastic band all around. Basically, as long as air flows, I'm OK. I should add that I live in Canada; I rarely cycle when it's warmer than 30-32°C because it's rarely if ever warmer than that (though with 100 % humidity, it feels swampy).


#2. Do they make a bike short that doesn't have a SUPER HEAVY DUTY MAXI PAD in it for the "taint" pad?

I don't use them. I wear regular clothes and I'm comfortable with them.


#3. What do you look for in bike gloves?

Some gel padding in the right places and no stitching in critical places. Basically, my most successful shopping method is this:
– Ride for 1 hour or more.
– Visit a bike shop and try a few gloves that have good padding in the palm (esp. near the thumb).
– Put my hands on a set of drop bars to see how they feel.

flip18436572
07-29-07, 09:51 AM
I want to thank everyone for the posts. I have emailed the company and they have recommended that I try the triathlon shorts, or that I have purchased too large of a pair of shorts. Since they are tight on me, I am sure they are not too big, and I think the TRI shorts will be better for me in the long run, I just wish I wouldn't have wasted money on the other shorts first. I tried to run in them after doing 9+ miles of biking and it was not very comfortable. I could make do on a short triathlong, but not even a sprint would be fun.

I know some people do not sweat like I do, and I will have the sweat problem with any type of helmet, unless it has a vacuum that can handle the sweat and keep it away from my eyes. It is just my genetic makeup and I have to deal with it some way.

I still haven't figured out gloves, but right now I am riding without and will try and figure out something when I visit a bike store or two.


Thanks again everyone!!!!

flip18436572
08-11-07, 09:35 PM
My wife bought me the Pearl Izumi bike shorts, and that is one of the reasons I was able to complete the 30 mile ride today. It made all of the difference in the world for me.

BCIpam
08-12-07, 09:40 AM
Have you looked at tri-sports specific clothing? Generally the chamois in tri shorts is very slim or non-existent.

Tom Stormcrowe
08-12-07, 10:10 AM
I want to thank everyone for the posts. I have emailed the company and they have recommended that I try the triathlon shorts, or that I have purchased too large of a pair of shorts. Since they are tight on me, I am sure they are not too big, and I think the TRI shorts will be better for me in the long run, I just wish I wouldn't have wasted money on the other shorts first. I tried to run in them after doing 9+ miles of biking and it was not very comfortable. I could make do on a short triathlong, but not even a sprint would be fun.

I know some people do not sweat like I do, and I will have the sweat problem with any type of helmet, unless it has a vacuum that can handle the sweat and keep it away from my eyes. It is just my genetic makeup and I have to deal with it some way.

I still haven't figured out gloves, but right now I am riding without and will try and figure out something when I visit a bike store or two.


Thanks again everyone!!!!

Sweat Gutters!

Here's an archived thread about this from the wayback machine.
http://www.bikeforums.net/archive/index.php/t-212963.html
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