Not everybody buys the cheapest things they can find
cheap clothes, cheap cars, cheap food, ...

Not everybody has there own hub motor company either. Hell, the whole reason I started looking into ebikes is because I couldn't afford gas anymore.

yes price is higher, so all you walmarters dont freak out
Not everybody buys the cheapest things they can find
cheap clothes, cheap cars, cheap food, ...

I have news for you. Wal-Mart is one of the more expensive places around my area for food. Only the Chinese imports are generally lower in cost. Your generalizations are rather laughable. I bought a Wal-Mart e-Zip for a friend to get around and I'm glad that I did even with the problems. I get so many referable questions from curious onlookers about the e-Zip when I'm with my friend on his e-Zip that Wal-Mart must be selling thousands of them. For the price of ONE typical e-bike, one could buy 3 e-Zips and do nearly as well overall with each one if carefully maintained. Personally, I have nothing against those people who want a lighter and different type of e-bike. However, your strident bashing of Currie's e-Zip and kits like the one from Amped Bikes is a bit much and totally counterproductive to your agenda, i.e. promoting more expensive e-bikes with greater profit margins. ;)

Karma lol it seems like you're always moving! anyways hope to get that link whenever it's up and running. Definitely want to check out those controllers you got :)

But for those wanting a "ferrari vs a pinto"
look at falconev.com
yes price is higher, so all you walmarters dont freak out
Not everybody buys the cheapest things they can find
cheap clothes, cheap cars, cheap food, ...

I find your generalizations offensive.

Why should I spend a lot of money on something that can be stolen in the blink of an eye? When I could go the cheap route and get the same/better results. I also find it Curious that you rag on “cheap china” products yet according to your website you also use products from Taiwan/China. So buying parts from china through you is ok and good but buying from china through another reseller is cheap and bad? Hypocrite much?

Alright, I'll pitch mine now ok ?
now that everyone else has promoted the other suppliers...
Amped says brushless are 30% more efficient..?
brushless are about 87% max. so brushed is 57% ? hmmm
2nd - what amp rating is the controller ? no mention of that small
little important detail...
$325 is the cheapest price i have ever seen. So it wins in that catagory.
But for those wanting a "ferrari vs a pinto"
look at falconev.com
yes price is higher, so all you walmarters dont freak out
Not everybody buys the cheapest things they can find
cheap clothes, cheap cars, cheap food, ...

I get your point on being cheap. You went too far and made it sound like you intentionally charge more to be cool. Good job on acing jr high social hour.

Karma lol it seems like you're always moving! anyways hope to get that link whenever it's up and running. Definitely want to check out those controllers you got :)

that was not a fun move, first time i was ready the movers lost my moving date so than i had to hold off for another week. but im moved and its over thank god:twitchy:

ill work on ordering the controllers:thumb:

http://74.12.202.60:81

I'm new to the e-bike world, and excited to get my first bike going. I'm currently looking into a 408 rear hub motor, a 48v 40a controller made for the x-5, 48v charger, and a twist throttle.i can get all this for $600 at poweridestore.com. i will gp with 4 sla 12v 12ah batteries from a local battery shop. Is the 408 a good choice for an all around motor, and has anybody ever shopped at poweride. any input would be helpful. thnx in advance

i found the perfect controller for moding and the price is low:innocent:


http://cgi.ebay.ca/72V-1000W-brushless-controller-for-E-bike-scooter_W0QQitemZ300215619644QQihZ020QQcategoryZ11332QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

i found the perfect controller for moding and the price is low:innocent:


http://cgi.ebay.ca/72V-1000W-brushless-controller-for-E-bike-scooter_W0QQitemZ300215619644QQihZ020QQcategoryZ11332QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Is that controller up to 72 Volts & 1000 Watts or do you have to run that?

if i mod it, i can get it to work as low as 24volt and up to 72v with no cutoff and a few other things.

im ordering them this week.im also adding statis led's on all the controllers.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7abYmdjo7Y0

cheers;)

Hey Karma, I will end up getting one of those from you. I need a new rim right now. the stock rims are very cheap. I wasted mine already. You said you put a rhyno lite rim on yours, right? From what I understand that is a 32 hole rim, and the motors have 36. I didn't know you could do that.

I ordered my kit this week, gonna put it on my CroMoly Trek 850.
Cheap is the key, looking for local SLA dealer.

there also available in a 36 spoke rim.

So after 7 pages whats the official story on this kit for reliability and ability to handle 48v? Im just looking to do mid 30 km/h and do 25 km with a bit of pedalling to and from university. Thanks!

only problems i had are rim and the throttle fell apart. the performance of the hubmotor works great at 48v 28amp, i found there controller choppy. i tried to mod it for 48v but its so cheap i dont think the part's can take
it.

im not saying its the best kit, but if you learning about ebikes and like to tinker with voltage and stuff it worth it.

if you blow it up your not out a lot of $$$$

Okay I understand. I need a reliable kit though, so do you think the Crystalyte is better for that then? This kit sounds promising, and it doesnt completely break the bank, which I do like. What controller is it that you think people should purchase then to have a 48v option with low amperage? Because some of us can still piece together a kit.

Crystalyte hubmotors are way better for reliablity, only 48v controllers that work with the goldenmotor hub that i can find with 28amp limit is in hong kong ->http://cgi.ebay.ca/48V-600W-brushless-controller-for-E-bike-scooter_W0QQitemZ300225412390QQihZ020QQcategoryZ11332QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Well, installed my Goldenmotor kit yesterday and got it all running. Here's what I found:

-when checking polarity on charger, it was opposite to what the battery connector plug was (the "Fuse +" was actually for negative).
-after hooking everything up and plugging in the controller, I blew the fuse; the "Fuse +" wire was the positive for the controller and negative for the charger
-switched the wiring for the controller and everything works fine
-there was no heat-conductive grease inside the controller

Otherwise, everything's working great and the bike is a blast! Gonna take it for a long ride today and see the range I can get. Thanks for all the info everyone's posted on here, it helped a ton!

Yeah it's a blast, for the money the Ampedbike kit (goldenmotor hub) is a great starter kit. SLAs are a good deal but I've had issues because I'm a noob at wiring and wires get loose easily. In hindsite I would have dropped around $300-$400 on a PING battery pack on Ebay instead of dropping $100 on SLAs that weigh a ton and snapped/bent bike racks that were rated for 50lbs. I've got a couple hundred miles on my commuter E-Trek and it's great!
But once I get my conditioning back up to when I was in high school I may switch to using my plain road bike more. I'm officially off Gas!! HURRAY!!!! biking past $4.09/gallon is simply sweet

After three weeks of running with the AmpedBikes.com golden kit, I am still happy.
I ride East<->West via the Cuyahoga Valley in Akron. Each side of which has some nasty incline hills.
I weigh 270lbs on a good day and have been an avid rider of mountain bikes and road bikes for years.
My route is 12 miles each way.
I started out with just the Amped kit and 3 old SLA 7ah UPS batteries I scavenged from retired APC UPS packs.

Initially the kit went together OK (see my previous post).

- The motor is very strong and pulls my bulk up the hills very nicely.

- The wheel is less than good but serviceable. I had to true the wheel and tighten most of the spokes initially. The wheel also had a flat spot in it initially.

- The tire is OK.

- The rack is "OK"

- The bag is ABSOLUTE CRAP. Both the rack and bag where freebies with the kit and the owner of Ampedbikes.com was completely up front with me that in his opinion he believed them to be crap as well. So I was fully expecting that.

- I don't know if the charger is any good as I "thought" the polarity was wrong initially and switched it. Plugged it into the battery pack and immediately let the magic smoke out of the charger. One large resistor is shattered on the board and if I am lucky may be the only component to replace.


The 3x7ah pack was not enough to get me both ways each day, so I have switched to TWO 3x7ah in parrallel and replace the free bag with a double pannier saddle bag. The 14ah pack now gets me to work and back and splits the amperage between the two packs. I found that the amperage draw on the single pack of three batteries was WAY to taxing on the hills and would kill there available amps prematurely.
I have been using a fully automatic automotive charger since blowing up the included charger. This works fine and has given me no trouble through the last two weeks.

I plan to replace the stock wheel with the original wheel from the mountain bike (GT AllTerra Timberline).
I am hoping the spokes from the kit wheel will match up with the GT wheel.
I will be buying a Soneil charger to carry on board and charge at work when finances permit.

P.S. I pedal hard along with this motor, but It REALLY helps maintain speed on the hill climbs. I haven't actually tried it on a flat out course for distance yet.

-Lord Sensate

I will be buying a Soneil charger to carry on board and charge at work when finances permit.

Once you have two chargers, I imagine you can leave one at work if you want?

Once you have two chargers, I imagine you can leave one at work if you want?

You'd think that! However I have heard a number of comments from other ebike owners that their employers are too weirded out by having Lead acid (OH NO! NOT ACID! IT COULD EXPLODE AND KILL EVERYONE!) batteries charging on the premises. So I intend to be as stealthy about it as possible. Everything to charge the and operate the bike will be onboard and just an AC cord will lead out of the Battery and charger bag. We have a machine room at our building that I am allowed to park the bike in so I will leave it all rigged to the bike. Otherwise I was going to have the controller mounted up front on the bars in a bag with just the single power lead to the single piece pannier saddle bag with the bats and charger in it. That way I could detach just the bag and put it under my desk to recharge.

SLA batteries are hardly dangerous. Every UPS system that sits under a desk or in a server rack uses them. Granted there is the possibility that someone could short circuit one and set something on fire. But the batteries themselves are not LIKELY to explode or burst, usually they just bulge when charged improperly. Please correct me if I am mistaken.

Now "standard" lithium rechargeables, NOT A123 or LiFePO4, would worry me a lot.

Speaking of batteries ... Anyone gotten their hands on some of the new FireFly Oasis batteries? They are now in production and supplying to Electrolux for their various product lines. I'll start a new thread...

So far my 36V goldenmotor ebike is fun to ride but with the three 17.2Ah SLA batteries I have (got for free) I find I can only get about 6km of travel on them (without any pedal assist and some small hills) and 24km/h max. Is this normal or are my batteries near the end of their life?

My work is 5km away so it's not so bad, but I'm wondering what performance I might get out of a 36V/10Ah LiFePo4 pack. Any experience with similar battery pack and what numbers you get? (speed, distance travelled at full throttle, etc.?)

I just bought a bike with 700c rims, I guess I cant use this kit :-(

Will be getting a Veloteq Ranger pedal assist bicycle as a tester at my dealership,pretty excited.Think pricing will be approx. $1300ish but they are lithium batteries so price is realistic.Great looking bike,should be here in about 3 weeks.Check them out on the Veloteq website.Few specs as of yet.

im adding a disk brake to my golden motor, if anyones interested i have a spare thay can have:p

sweet its going to work:thumb:

You're using pocket bike brakes to huh? I find they work real good on my trikes. I use the 160mm disks though.
Ed Service

have a look at my trike with pocket bike disk brakes here edscreations.blogspot.com
this trike also is all-wheel drive! (front wheels by pedal, rear wheel via Goldenmotor!
Ed

ya i have had the parts laying around for some time, there new i figured i would try them out.

im picking up the disk brake adapter from ebikes.ca to try them out.


nice bike

took it out on a long fast ride it passes now to pick up the disk brake adapter:thumb:

I machined my own adapter, I have bicycle disc brakes on the blue bike and pocket bike discs on the Yellow trike.
I'll be looking for a 48v controller for my trike when you have them!
Ed

My hubs are standard front wheel hubs that I modified for disc brakes. It appears you are using the threaded side covers for rear hubs?
Ed Service

ya i was thinking on drilling holes in the side plate to mount the disk, but i was worred about cracks forming around the holes. so im going for a threaded disk adapter there cheep.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtknOwLNYik

i should have the controller next week to work on and test before i send them out.

http://www.reg2u.com/parts.htm

Karma, can you put me on your list of potential buyers for you controllers? I have a 48V 500W Grubee Skyhawk front hub motor. I need a controller so in the meanwhile my bike is sitting idle. Here is the information I have about my present brushless controller:
48V
Negative Voltage protection: 42V
Throttle: 1-4.2V
Brake: Low
It also has a brake cut-off connector. The system has a 20A inline fuse.

it should work do you have a pic of the wiring harness? off the controller, the controllers im seting up are wired for the goldenmotor.

karma, here is a diagram of the system connectiviy and a pic of the controller harness. Please let me know if you need more detailed info or pics of the connectors. thanks, knurn

Hi
My goldenmotor setup cuts out when it's raining. Is this a controller or motor problem? Can it be resolved?
It seems to rain every day here this year!
Do you ever get wet on a recumbent trike when you ride through a rain shower!
Ed Service
Camrose Alberta

Do you have any spare threaded side covers?
Ed Service

karma, here is a diagram of the system connectiviy and a pic of the controller harness. Please let me know if you need more detailed info or pics of the connectors. thanks, knurn


thats good i could make any changes if needed, i just ordered the controllers.

Do you have any spare threaded side covers?
Ed Service


i have one left.

cutout when it rains could be a number of things. you could get a tube of clear silicon and seal around the connectors, take the end covers off the controller and reseal with silicon. only time a had problems with water was when it was deep and got in the hubmotor.

Is there a goldenmotor 700c front kit?

not sure you e-mail smart bike canada and ask sales@smartbikecanada.com <sales@smartbikecanada.com>

I need just one threaded cover. I modified a front hub to work on the back of a bike by threading a adapter into the side cover to accept a threaded freewheel. it is working alright, but I'm concerned about the amount of thread that I was able to get in the side cover (about 3 threads). it might strip with the load of the whole 6-speed cassette on so little thread. Please advise price and, if acceptable, I'll get you to ship it with a controller when you get them.
Thanks,
Ed Service

the side cover is free, i can ship it with the controller

I guess FREE is pretty acceptable!

Where are you in Ontario karma? My original home was Shelburne, my bro and mother are still there! I am in Alberta now for 29 years !
My trike threw me off last night! I tried to do a power slide---- Showing off you know!!!! Mt wife says I should know better at 55 years old!! hahasha
Got a nice bruise anda sore ass this morning
Ed Service

london ontario

my setup

lifepo4 at 48volt 10ah pingping -ebay
golden 36volt hubmotor
nanjing 48volt 500watt controller
50amp watt meter
40amp audio car fuse
max speed hmm 45mph min 21.5mph

What kind of range do you get from that setup without any pedal assist karma?

Also, I'm looking into a similar setup and was wondering if there would be a problem using a 48V/600W controller (with a 28A limit) with the Goldenmotor hubmotor. Does it matter the rated wattage on the controller?

no the wattage can be over 500, its the amps that need to be at 28amp limit.
range? hard to tell londons a big city i can go out on long rides and even get lost a few times and the battery
still gets me home. i really dont have the time to setup a controlled test, but i can say you will be more than
happy with the setup.

my setup is no longer a assist setup its more of a ev, i like it i can pick and choose if i want to get some exersize