Classic & Vintage - Peugeot PG10 or PY10 ??

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hypercube33
07-30-07, 09:10 AM
I have what I think may be a PG or PY 10. My cuz gave me it in a Mountain bike configuration (appears that a third party welded on Centerpull/V-Brake mounts.)

I'll post pix when I get back from the hospital...


miamijim
07-30-07, 01:22 PM
This ones easy.....

PY= 3 tubes carbon fiber with aluminum lugs, fork and rear stays
PG= all metal

Kommisar89
07-30-07, 10:28 PM
This ones easy.....

PY= 3 tubes carbon fiber with aluminum lugs, fork and rear stays
PG= all metal

You lost me - I thought PY10's long predated the carbon fiber era. School me here 'cause I thought PY10's were like high end PX10 team bikes with fancy gold anodized components and stuff. Then again, I don't know jack :D


T-Mar
07-31-07, 05:28 AM
Depends. A standard PY10 is Reynolds 531SL, but a PY10CF is carbon fiber and aluminum.. A PG10 should be Reynolds 501. The team bicycles were similar to the PX10, PY10 and PY10CF, but were built in a special shop. The only frames that were identical to the team frames were the custom orders. The standard issue frames were built in the factory and had some cost-cutting features to expediate production.

miamijim
07-31-07, 10:21 AM
You lost me - I thought PY10's long predated the carbon fiber era. School me here 'cause I thought PY10's were like high end PX10 team bikes with fancy gold anodized components and stuff. Then again, I don't know jack :D


They did. Because the OP mentioned PG I went into 80's mode and associated PY with the carbon version. As Tmar said, it all depends.


To the OP...as usual we'd like to see some pics.

hypercube33
08-03-07, 03:09 PM
Ask and you shall recieve!
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a66/Hypercube33/DSC03754.jpg

Showing off the fact that I didnt lie about who made it.

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a66/Hypercube33/DSC03751.jpg

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a66/Hypercube33/DSC03755.jpg
Showing off the apperent weld-on stay brake mounts; It appears that I could easilly stuff a 27" wheel into this bikes frame and put C brakes on and forever have a road/mountain bike. A true hybrid? Eh.

miamijim
08-03-07, 03:18 PM
I'll let someone else do it...

hypercube33
08-03-07, 03:23 PM
I'd rather keep 26" road tires on it or something. I tried my hand at using it for a mountain bike, and it sucks. It's not properly balanced to actually go offroading and on hills I have no ability to put weight on the rear thus spinning out horribly.

Grand Bois
08-03-07, 05:19 PM
It resembles my wife's Peugeot. It's a PX10.....NOT.

http://inlinethumb25.webshots.com/3864/1315585707068014369S500x500Q85.jpg (http://sports.webshots.com/photo/1315585707068014369QQAdCs)

hypercube33
08-03-07, 05:34 PM
Er. Well. I was going off of a flyer ad, Sorry. JERK.

http://home.wanadoo.nl/peugeotshow/images/1988_1.jpg

hockeyteeth
08-03-07, 06:46 PM
Here's my Peugeot PY10FC (carbon main tubes):

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y224/abetterseptember/NEWPEUGEOTFRAME.jpg

I still need to build it up, but I don't have the money to do it properly.

Lamplight
08-03-07, 07:21 PM
That's pure mountain bike or hybrid. Should make for a versatile commuter or around-town bike. It just needs fenders and a good rack and bag. :)

cudak888
08-03-07, 07:23 PM
You have a late '80s Peugeot MTB in pretty much near stock configuration - definitely not any of the Peugeot road models by far.

Dirtdrop's gruff commentary is because many Peugeot owners who do not know what they have assume that they have PX-10s or variants of. The misunderstanding has only been fueled by unscrupulous Craigslist sellers attempting to pass off low-end AE or UO series models as PX-10s (and in some cases, militantly supporting their positions, to the point where I've heard of one or two cases in where I can recall sellers as threatening police intervention for online harassment - or something to that extent - in response to folks citing the mis-labeling of the bike).

As a result, the community generally frowns on any incorrect designation of a Peugeot as a PX-10 or as a close relative of the PX. Of course, some of us also have our own personal breaking points if we happen to have seen just too much of this happening in a single week - and I dare say it has been one of those days for Dirtdrop.

...and of course, you must realize that from the collector's standpoint, mistaking an older Peugeot MTB for a PX-10 is bizarre to the point of hilarity, considering previous events. No offense!

-Kurt

T-Mar
08-03-07, 07:50 PM
The OP's bicycle is a US Express, which was Peugeot's base ATB model. I'm on vacation now and don't have access to my reference materials but based on the decals, I'd say it is about 1986.

hypercube33
08-03-07, 10:40 PM
Ah. So it is an express. I have the original brakes if that'd matter. Funny, I couldnt find anything on the ATB's that they made, so I thus assumed it was a variant of the lesser road bike family, as I've seen what is possible in the braze-on market.

Cool though. I love this bike and probably wont ever let it go.

As for the decals I thought that they were third party...so I'm wonderng about the funky canadian silver logo on the chainstays - is it addon or did it come with the bike - and if so, was it made in Canada? Hopefully its a 1986, as the bike would be as old as I then!

T-Mar
08-05-07, 04:02 PM
Many peugeot during this period were manufactured in Canada by ProCycle, so a Canadian origin is definitely within the realm of possibility.

Grand Bois
08-05-07, 06:15 PM
They were building Peugeot mountain bikes in Japan, France and Canada at the same time. My Orient Express was built in Japan in 1987. I've seen pictures of the French bikes and they were completely different from the others.