Bicycle Mechanics - 700x23 VS 700x23c tire question

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amess
07-31-07, 05:32 PM
what's the difference, if any, between a tire listed as 700x23c and 700x23 and does is matter which one I get if my bike now has 700x23c's?

Thanks!


barba
07-31-07, 05:35 PM
Same thing

mrbubl
07-31-07, 06:49 PM
all tires of the same size are not = in size. every maker is a little different.


Rev.Chuck
07-31-07, 07:11 PM
The letter(in this case "c") was for different spec rims. I don't think you can even find a non "c'" tire any more(Except the 650 size, ther is still a 650b)

halfspeed
07-31-07, 07:58 PM
700C is the rim size. 23mm is a tire width common on 700C rims. The common practice of placing the 'C' after the tire width is a silly and archaic habit in the bike industry (as is referring to obsolete French sizing nomenclature, but that's another rant).

If you want the long answer, as always, go to http://sheldonbrown.com/tire_sizing.html

Retro Grouch
07-31-07, 08:06 PM
700C is the rim size. 23mm is a tire width common on 700C rims. The common practice of placing the 'C' after the tire width is a silly and archaic habit in the bike industry (as is referring to obsolete French sizing nomenclature, but that's another rant).

I have to disagree.

A 700c tire has a larger bead diameter than a 700d tire. So why wouldn't you put the letter on the tire size?

Bob Dopolina
07-31-07, 08:44 PM
...which is why you should scrap all those archaic, misleading numbers and stick to the ETRTO numbers. 23x622 is pretty clear.

I hope the OP is not confused by the silly back and forth caused by their post. Both tires are the same size and are completely interchangeable.

barba
07-31-07, 08:57 PM
I have to disagree.

A 700c tire has a larger bead diameter than a 700d tire. So why wouldn't you put the letter on the tire size?

I thought 700a, b, and d had gone extinct at this point. Is anyone still using them?

amess
08-01-07, 11:06 AM
thanks everyone!

Retro Grouch
08-01-07, 11:10 AM
I thought 700a, b, and d had gone extinct at this point. Is anyone still using them?

Actually we had a 700d bike come through the shop this year. If I remember right we couldn't find tires for it so we converted it to 26" wheels.

Gonzo Bob
08-01-07, 11:17 AM
Actually we had a 700d bike come through the shop this year. If I remember right we couldn't find tires for it so we converted it to 26" wheels.

So you killed the last one proving barba's point! :D

masiman
08-01-07, 01:25 PM
So you killed the last one proving barba's point! :D

Here, here.

He's part of the solution ;).

halfspeed
08-01-07, 04:18 PM
I have to disagree.

A 700c tire has a larger bead diameter than a 700d tire. So why wouldn't you put the letter on the tire size?


Sorry. I wasn't clear. I don't suggest REmoving the C, I suggest moving the C from the commonly used position after the tire width to after the 700. So instead of referring to 700x23C, one would refer to 700Cx23mm.

Even better, dump the French designations altogether.

Bob Dopolina
08-01-07, 04:24 PM
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Even better, dump the French designations altogether.[/QUOTE]

Even better than better...stick to ETRTO.

Retro Grouch
08-01-07, 05:01 PM
So you killed the last one proving barba's point! :D

If only it was as easy as that. One of the guys took the bike in for new tires and a tune up, quoted the customer a price and everybody's happy, right? WRONG! Retro Grouch bops into the shop, takes one look at the bike and says "That's going to be a problem." Now somebody has to call the customer and explain why his tune up is going cost $100.00 more than we had estimated.