Fifty Plus (50+) - Anyone using HGH (Human Growth Hormone), what are the positive & negatives?

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socalrider
08-04-07, 01:12 AM
Recently saw a friend of ours who is approaching 50 years and could not believe how great he looked.. He obviously dropped some weight but overall it looks like he is 10 years younger. He said that he had been taking HGH, I looked online and found mostly good info on the supplement..

Just curious if anyone has been using or is currently using HGH? what is the good and bad?


maddmaxx
08-04-07, 04:15 AM
You will not be allowed to compete in the TDF.

socalrider
08-04-07, 04:50 AM
that is far from a concern..


DnvrFox
08-04-07, 04:56 AM
How tall would you like to be?

stonecrd
08-04-07, 05:28 AM
There are a number of anti aging clinics popping up that offer HGH treatment along with others. Looking good is a requirement in Miami so it is even advertised on TV, along with every type of body enhancement you can imagine. However, looking young requires a lot of $ and I would rather put that money into my bike and other hobbies.

The Weak Link
08-04-07, 05:42 AM
How tall would you like to be?

OUr growth plates have sealed over long ago. Oh well. We ain't getting any taller.

Perhaps you could google "acromegaly" to get a feel of what might happen if you abuse HGH.

DnvrFox
08-04-07, 05:52 AM
OUr growth plates have sealed over long ago. Oh well. We ain't getting any taller.

Perhaps you could google "acromegaly" to get a feel of what might happen if you abuse HGH.


I should have placed a :D in my message. I was not serious!

redden
08-04-07, 05:54 AM
Recently saw a friend of ours who is approaching 50 years and could not believe how great he looked.. He obviously dropped some weight but overall it looks like he is 10 years younger. He said that he had been taking HGH, I looked online and found mostly good info on the supplement..

Just curious if anyone has been using or is currently using HGH? what is the good and bad?

It's my understanding the supplements are mostly snake oil. to get any benefit the real thing is required.

The Weak Link
08-04-07, 05:57 AM
I should have placed a :D in my message. I was not serious!

By the way, I find your choice in font colours deeply disturbing.....

DnvrFox
08-04-07, 06:01 AM
By the way, I find your choice in font colours deeply disturbing.....



Are you writing from England?

Let's have a sourvey! :D

This

or this

or this

or this

or this

I think I am stealing this thread. Sorry. Back to HGH!

BluesDawg
08-04-07, 06:29 AM
Got a problem? Take a pill or a shot.
The road to ruin.

Ride your bike.

Wildwood
08-04-07, 06:32 AM
No personal experience

http://www.somatropin.net

DnvrFox
08-04-07, 07:20 AM
The new me!

http://www.somatropin.net

http://www.somatropin.net/images-somatropin/pic2.jpg

Where do I buy that stuff?

Digital Gee
08-04-07, 10:28 AM
According to my ex, HGH wouldn't work with me, because i'm not, um, H. :D

roccobike
08-04-07, 12:39 PM
OUr growth plates have sealed over long ago. Oh well. We ain't getting any taller.

Perhaps you could google "acromegaly" to get a feel of what might happen if you abuse HGH.

I'm not so sure! I recently had my weight and height checked. Amazing, I grew a half inch.:eek: I used to be 5'8.5", now I'm 5'9" even.:rolleyes:











Wanna bet there's something wrong with the measuring technique?:D:D

Old School
08-04-07, 01:13 PM
According to my ex, HGH wouldn't work with me, because i'm not, um, H. :D

Gee,
I hope you can laugh about it now... :)

late
08-04-07, 01:24 PM
I suggest you read this first

http://outside.away.com/outside/bodywork/200311/200311_drug_test_1.html

socalrider
08-04-07, 03:56 PM
I read that article when it came out.. He not only used HGH, but EPO, Testosterone and Steroids, quite a mix..

farwesthoops
08-04-07, 05:36 PM
As a long time professional coach (43 yrs) I will simply give you my opinion for what it is worth..nothing positive will come of it and the potential for both physical and emotional damage is in place. I am not going to lecture just simply say that no matter what the short term "gains" appear to be, the long term potential negatives far outweigh them for me. "Looking good" will be the least of his worries.

LastPlace
08-04-07, 06:09 PM
I have never taken HGH, but did take Testosterone for three years and it was great for me. Helped with lagging libedo, and several other things.

My current doctor doesn't think I need it. Drats.

Not to disagree with 'farwesthoops', but can you point to any long term studies that validate what you said about long term negatives? I didn't know these things had been studied that long.

I have read articles about East German athletes, but assume those people were given very large doses of what they were told were 'vitamins'.

Personally, if I had the money I would give it a shot, no pun intended.

Maybe if I took some HGH I wouldn't always be in LastPlace!

frugal_guy
08-04-07, 06:21 PM
Maybe if I took some HGH I wouldn't always be in LastPlace!

Hmm. Maybe in the race to die, last place isn't so bad.

LastPlace
08-04-07, 06:24 PM
Actually I was planning to live to be 134 so I could really mess up all the statistics.

BluesDawg
08-04-07, 07:35 PM
Eat right and exercise. It's not nice to fool Mother Nature. Didn't you watch any sci-fi horror movies?

Wildwood
08-04-07, 11:32 PM
Anyone with experience, 1st or 2nd hand?

Sandwarrior
08-05-07, 01:09 AM
By the way, I find your choice in font colours deeply disturbing.....

Didn't we go through this already... I could have sworn there was a thread about Dnvrsfox's font a while back

socalrider
08-05-07, 01:17 AM
Anyone with experience, 1st or 2nd hand?

This is what I was looking for also, someone with firsthand experience.. Well if no one is using it what are you supplementing with as you get older..

For me it is Multivitamin + Glucosamine/Chondroitin for the joints, my creeky knees have gone away since using this..

freeranger
08-05-07, 06:26 AM
This is what I was looking for also, someone with firsthand experience.. Well if no one is using it what are you supplementing with as you get older..

For me it is Multivitamin + Glucosamine/Chondroitin for the joints, my creeky knees have gone away since using this..

I'm using what you use--but never had creaky knees-I'm using it so they don't become creaky. I used to get lower back pain-only bothers me now if I'm on the riding mower for a couple of hours.

filtersweep
08-05-07, 06:55 AM
I believe most men could benefit from some hormone replacement therapy--- women do it all the time. Of course it isn't associated with 'roids-- etcf.


I have never taken HGH, but did take Testosterone for three years and it was great for me. Helped with lagging libedo, and several other things.

My current doctor doesn't think I need it. Drats.

Not to disagree with 'farwesthoops', but can you point to any long term studies that validate what you said about long term negatives? I didn't know these things had been studied that long.

I have read articles about East German athletes, but assume those people were given very large doses of what they were told were 'vitamins'.

Personally, if I had the money I would give it a shot, no pun intended.

Maybe if I took some HGH I wouldn't always be in LastPlace!

The Weak Link
08-05-07, 07:31 AM
Well, if you want to put a spring in your step and lighten the load, try Carters Pills.

Motorad
08-05-07, 10:06 AM
How tall would you like to be?
My wife must be slipping me HSH ... human shrinking hormone.

In 1996, when our new hospital opened, I had little time to professionally place restrictive signs on certain doors, to be in compliance with regulatory requirements. A bunch of signs, wanted them all to be positioned uniformly on all required doors, and came up with this idea: Stand immediately in front of each door ... eyeball-center the sign to be horizontally-centered on the door ... and center each sign to be at the height of my nose while standing up straight with typical office work shoes. Did the job quick, and signs were uniformly posted.

Now that my wife has been slipping me HSH ... and eleven years later ... all these signs are now centered about an inch above my nose-height. Say No To Drugs!!!

LastPlace
08-05-07, 10:17 AM
socalrider,

Didn't mean to get off on a tangent there. There might be something over here.............

http://forums.menshealth.com/eve

Good luck.

DnvrFox
08-05-07, 10:25 AM
My wife must be slipping me HSH ... human shrinking hormone.

Say No To Drugs!!!

:roflmao::lol::roflmao:

socalrider
08-05-07, 12:34 PM
I just went to my local Vitamin Shoppe and asked some questions.. It turns out they have an entire section of HGH, about 15 different brands of HGH.. This is not the high potentcy HGH, but most claims that it just helps boost your natural HGH levels.. I am pretty sure my friend is getting the shots of HGH, which is not what I want to do, I was just curious if anyone had firsthand use.. I guess I will stick my multivitamin.

bobbyahines
08-05-07, 01:06 PM
The problem with HGH, is that its benefits disappear when you stop taking it. So stay on it forever? Expensive for one, and more potential for those potential side effects to show up...

maddmaxx
08-05-07, 04:39 PM
Well, if you want to put a spring in your step and lighten the load, try Carters Pills.

I must be getting slow with advancing age but it just dawned on my what WL's fascination with carters pills was :

europa
08-05-07, 05:57 PM
It's so easy to swallow a pill or take a jab, much easier than actually being careful about your diet and getting plenty of exercise. Sure, do it the lazy man's way. There aren't any long term effects, there can't be, you've spent all that money for this product so it must be good. Only fools exercise to look good.

Anyone who thinks that taking drugs is the way the health and happiness is a mug.

Sheesh.
Richard

and I too dislike Dnvrfox's font colour - but only coz I'm a gumpy :D

Wildwood
08-05-07, 07:35 PM
Anyone who thinks that taking drugs is the way the health and happiness is a mug. Sheesh.
Richard
:D

I've been riding and exercising steadily for 20 years, some years more than others of course. The first 35 years I got by on youth and good luck. Along the way (for relatively short periods of time) I've had to take drugs for hypertension, cholesteral, infection, etc. I also believe in low dose aspirin, fish oil tablets and multivitamins. I even let them give me drugs when I go for a dental procedure. I regularly have a glass of wine or beer. When my memory recall gets worse I'll consider the Alzheimer's meds. Potassium tablets help eliminate leg cramps after long days riding in the heat. Sheesh, call me a mug but I believe in health and happiness and legal drugs. If glucosamine or HGH or anti-depressants help a person feel better and more productive then I say more power to them.

jukt
08-06-07, 09:09 AM
You will be able to ride in the TdF, but not in yellow.

Baroque
08-06-07, 06:35 PM
I believe most men could benefit from some hormone replacement therapy--- women do it all the time. Of course it isn't associated with 'roids-- etcf.

Estrogen therapy is a hotly debated topic. Google 'Estrogen Therapy Danger', for example. Outside of the potential health hazards with this hormone "replacement" --- i.e., replacing at a time when Ol' Mother Nature is clearly bent on shutting down production --- there's also the separate issue of how some estrogen therapy ingredients are still obtained (the Premarin debate).
No offense or disrespect intended to anyone who wants or needs to employ this therapy. I just wanted to say that hormone replacement is a serious subject that should be approached cautiously by both men and women. Until I find out differently, I'm going on the assumption that this is the only body I'm going to get, so I'd better try to make it last another 100,000 miles! :D

Ally

Terrierman
08-06-07, 08:19 PM
I must be getting slow with advancing age but it just dawned on my what WL's fascination with carters pills was :

No problem with being slow. Remember how long it took BD to figure out that Tom Bombadil was not Tom Bombadil's actual real name?

Zachary09
04-09-11, 01:58 AM
I am sharing the side effects of the undue use of HGH (http://www.hghforsale.org/category/hgh/)....

-- Acromegaly (as described in detail above)
-- Premature death (in case of acromegaly)
-- Heart enlargement (due to prolonged use of HGH. Can't be reversed)
-- Low blood sugar with risk of going into a diabetic coma
-- Excessive hair growth all over the body
-- Excessive water retention
-- Liver damage
-- Thyroid damage

martianone
04-09-11, 03:39 AM
I am sharing the side effects of the undue use of HGH (http://www.hghforsale.org/category/hgh/)....

-- Acromegaly (as described in detail above)
-- Premature death (in case of acromegaly)
-- Heart enlargement (due to prolonged use of HGH. Can't be reversed)
-- Low blood sugar with risk of going into a diabetic coma
-- Excessive hair growth all over the body
-- Excessive water retention
-- Liver damage
-- Thyroid damage

You have "premature death" ?
Interesting ?

scroca
04-09-11, 05:55 AM
I wouldn't do it.

I don't know if it's even FDA regulated. Much of the supplement industry is not. Who knows what they put in some of that stuff.

FrenchFit
04-11-11, 09:15 PM
Anyone with experience, 1st or 2nd hand?

Yes, at the risk of actually saying something relevant (..ducking). I tried a regime around age 50, this was quite a few years ago. I was re-inventing myself mentally/physically I guess. It seemed to improve my gym work-outs but gave me sleeping/dreaming troubles. I dumped HGH in favor of better habits. I don't have a negative bias, for a jump start maybe it's worth the experimentation. I found a concern to be the side-effects, if any, have a tendency to sneak up on you...and that was disturbing.

Shimagnolo
04-11-11, 09:20 PM
You have "premature death" ?
Interesting ?

I hate it when that happens.:mad:

Monoborracho
04-12-11, 06:08 AM
I believe most men could benefit from some hormone replacement therapy--- women do it all the time. Of course it isn't associated with 'roids-- etcf.


I am sharing the side effects of the undue use of HGH (http://www.hghforsale.org/category/hgh/)....

-- Acromegaly (as described in detail above)
-- Premature death (in case of acromegaly)
-- Heart enlargement (due to prolonged use of HGH. Can't be reversed)
-- Low blood sugar with risk of going into a diabetic coma
-- Excessive hair growth all over the body
-- Excessive water retention
-- Liver damage
-- Thyroid damage

Harmone Replacement Therapy in women also results in breast cancer for quite a few. Ask the oncologists and not the med companies.

IMHO, taking any kind of hormone supplement is to invite some form of cancer.

Period.

Pat
04-12-11, 10:30 AM
All of us have heard of the benefits of performance enhancing drugs.

One problem with them is that people become emotionally dependant on them. For example, people who take steroids, often take immense quantities of them which inevitably produces toxic effects. Also, steroids supposedly only work if one intensifies their work out. So how much of the effect is from the training alone?

The notion in the elderly, is that adding certain hormones like steroids and HGH will offset the natural decline in these things. But these hormones have multiple effects and are believed to do things like increase risk to heart disease and cancer.

What seems to be true is that these things are expensive, often illegal, and have nasty side effects. The benefits are not well documented and are problematic. Now for a professional athelete trying to get a slight performance edge or to recover faster from an injury, well I can see how that might make sense. But for a recreational athelete, I think I will just take a pass.

Altair 4
04-12-11, 11:37 AM
I got a giggle out of how the ad banner for this thread became "Cenegenics Medical Institute" with the buff 72 yr old physicianh as the model. Carry on...