New 20 lb hub motor

[EbikeHawaii]

The motors best efficiency of 85% is rated at whopping 350 watts.At least it now fits the rear dropouts. LOL
Specs.

Maximum Torque: 40Nm
Maximum Efficiency: 85%
Maximum Power Out: 600Watt
Rated Power: 350watts
Voltage : 36V
WT: 19LBS/8.4KG
http://www.texaselectricbikes.com/catalog/crystalyte-cannon-motor-p-210.html

[ken cummings]

Sounds like that super motor would cause the bike to outrun the headlights they offer. Should I start another thread to ask if any company has a battery that is a basic part of the frame, a monocoque battery as it were, instead of just sticking the boxy battery somewhere that it fits?

[krushnoi]

The motors best efficiency of 85% is rated at whopping 350 watts.At least it now fits the rear dropouts. LOL
Specs.

Maximum Torque: 40Nm
Maximum Efficiency: 85%
Maximum Power Out: 600Watt
Rated Power: 350watts
Voltage : 36V
WT: 19LBS/8.4KG
http://www.texaselectricbikes.com/catalog/crystalyte-cannon-motor-p-210.html

What's wrong with those guys at texasbikes? They've got to learn
to fudge the facts some when it comes to hub motors like all the other hub motor dealers do.

[Lowell_]

The motors best efficiency of 85% is rated at whopping 350 watts.At least it now fits the rear dropouts. LOL
Specs.

Maximum Torque: 40Nm
Maximum Efficiency: 85%
Maximum Power Out: 600Watt
Rated Power: 350watts
Voltage : 36V
WT: 19LBS/8.4KG
http://www.texaselectricbikes.com/catalog/crystalyte-cannon-motor-p-210.html

Specs look a bit out, and 4 series motors always were 135mm.

[Leisesturm]

Sounds like that super motor would cause the bike to outrun the headlights they offer. Should I start another thread to ask if any company has a battery that is a basic part of the frame, a monocoque battery as it were, instead of just sticking the boxy battery somewhere that it fits?

Is my leg being pulled here? I am still in the fact absorbing stage with all this stuff but already I know enough to hardly be overwhelmed by a 350W rating. And, as it happens, I probably would have started paying attention to this e-bike stuff a long time ago if the battery pack options weren't limited to rear rack or saddlebag options. I am seeing some viable, low center of gravity options, the design of the BionX pack or the unit used in the Charger bike approach your monocoque functionality. Most e-bike's are using standard or lightly modified 'standard' bicycle frames and battery space was never a design consideration but what about the eGo bike? Monocoque battery if I ever did see one.

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[Lowell_]

What's wrong with those guys at texasbikes? They've got to learn
to fudge the facts some when it comes to hub motors like all the other hub motor dealers do.

Hub motor dealers don't need to fudge facts as they already own a majority of the ebike market. The hub motor simulator at www.ebikes.ca (http://www.ebikes.ca) has been proven very accurate compared to real world testing.

One thing that does happen though, is motors are under rated for legal reasons. I've ridden some "500W" bikes from stores, and damn if they didn't have the most powerful '500W' motors I've ever seen.

[EbikeHawaii]

What's wrong with those guys at texasbikes? They've got to learn
to fudge the facts some when it comes to hub motors like all the other hub motor dealers do. You know the "known Rules"

[EbikeHawaii]

Hub motor dealers don't need to fudge facts as they already own a majority of the ebike market. The hub motor simulator at www.ebikes.ca (http://www.ebikes.ca) has been proven very accurate compared to real world testing.

One thing that does happen though, is motors are under rated for legal reasons. I've ridden some "500W" bikes from stores, and damn if they didn't have the most powerful '500W' motors I've ever seen.For any considering a heavy ebike with light expectations of range and performance ie efficiency, there ok.Personaly , I won't ever ride a ebike with lead batteries or a heavy hub motor.Even a geared hub motor would just be too noisey compared to a good un geard motor chain system.

[EbikeHawaii]

Hub motor dealers don't need to fudge facts as they already own a majority of the ebike market. The hub motor simulator at www.ebikes.ca (http://www.ebikes.ca) has been proven very accurate compared to real world testing.

One thing that does happen though, is motors are under rated for legal reasons. I've ridden some "500W" bikes from stores, and damn if they didn't have the most powerful '500W' motors I've ever seen. See how much Real Range they have with out any pedailng hailing a hundered pound + ebike.

[Lowell_]

See how much Real Range they have with out any pedailng hailing a hundered pound + ebike.

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-2345563547099214781&hl=en-CA

28 miles in 38 minutes, no hailing. You would have been dropped after the first stoplight on this ride, but I'm sure you'd get to the finish eventually. Unless of course your motor smokes going up the Alex Fraser bridge.

[EbikeHawaii]

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-2345563547099214781&hl=en-CA

28 miles in 38 minutes, no hailing. You would have been dropped after the first stoplight on this ride, but I'm sure you'd get to the finish eventually. Unless of course your motor smokes going up the Alex Fraser bridge.How do you figure when a 5 lb motor powered 300 lbs of weight 37 miles up a 10,005 ft high volcano several times without getting hot?

[Lowell_]

How do you figure when a 5 lb motor powered 300 lbs of weight 37 miles up a 10,005 ft high volcano several times without getting hot?

You mean when the pedal bikers beat you to the top?

[EbikeHawaii]

You mean when the pedal bikers beat you to the top?Yea, but I beat all the Pro bicycle racers to Crator rim 1/4 mile from the summit peak on the side of it to the highest elevation on Maui after the first 3 team racers made it passed me while I was enjoying the view for 20 minutes resting warm batteries after climbing a 15% grade for last 10 miles.Besides I was not racing any one with 100 lbs of non lithium batteries.They had 7 to 10 lb bikes cost 8 grand built by team Mavac.Give it a try some day LMAO and cook pancakes on your hub motor for breakfast before the first 10 miles.This was the only time any electric vehicle or ebike besides mine has climbed a vertical rise of this elevation.It was street legal at the time.It still is in all US states besides two.Give it up LOL= Lowell Hub motors will never have what it takes for light weight high performance and last vary long climbing hills espacilly with fat people riding them.

[karma]

i love the smell of a hot motor and battery in the morning :)

[EbikeHawaii]

i love the smell of a hot motor and battery in the morning :)Throw in some burning duct tape and you have a true invironMentalist.

[Robert C]

Hub motors will never have what it takes for light weight high performance and last vary long climbing hills espacilly with fat people riding them.

You forget that most people are not interested in Volcano Racing, except in an abstract, scientific or sporting way. I think most people looking at ebikes are just looking for something that is pleasant to ride and is a bit faster or easier to ride than a normal bike (my reason is different, an ebike gets me around the anti-bicycle rules here). Pleasant includes a bike that is pleasant to look at (ebikes, pretty much, all seem weak in this regard). Bikes that look like two wheeled battery carts are not what people want, this is without regard to technical superiority.

You have also mentioned that there is about a 12" interference in the middle of the bike to make room for batteries. Simply, this is not what I would consider a comfortable, ridable, bike. You have produced an electric Volcano racer. Great! I expect that it was, and is, a lot of fun. Again, most people are looking at ebikes are looking at electric assist bicycles, not Volcano racers.

[EbikeHawaii]

You forget that most people are not interested in Volcano Racing, except in an abstract, scientific or sporting way. I think most people looking at ebikes are just looking for something that is pleasant to ride and is a bit faster or easier to ride than a normal bike (my reason is different, an ebike gets me around the anti-bicycle rules here). Pleasant includes a bike that is pleasant to look at (ebikes, pretty much, all seem weak in this regard). Bikes that look like two wheeled battery carts are not what people want, this is without regard to technical superiority.

You have also mentioned that there is about a 12" interference in the middle of the bike to make room for batteries. Simply, this is not what I would consider a comfortable, ridable, bike. You have produced an electric Volcano racer. Great! I expect that it was, and is, a lot of fun. Again, most people are looking at ebikes are looking at electric assist bicycles, not Volcano racers.This Was A Test to see how the evercells worked and a great test to see how well a a lithium ebike would react to a fat man riding it everywhere.Again it was not a race but fun to do for shooting pictures and movies along the way as well as getting the ofical race to document a un official racer but a electric bike rider in the event. And I have not used anything other than lithiums in the last two years. If I chose I could go anywhere on the island at 30 mph if they were legal in Hawaii .Sheeeesh.In time more people will relize that they wished there ebikes were tested for the use they tried to demand out ou them.... LOL=@Lowell