"The 33"-Road Bike Racing - TT: bar end shifter options?

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ratebeer
08-06-07, 03:46 PM
Is it really 2 Shimano, 1 Campy and one SRAM option? It stinks to pay $60 for a killer bar and then $150 for the shifters.


merlinextraligh
08-06-07, 04:37 PM
you can mount old down tube shifters with an adapter. Not the mos elegant solution but it works

LowCel
08-06-07, 04:38 PM
I just paid a small fortune for a set of campy bar end shifters. I couldn't believe how much those things cost. They could have at least written "record" on them for that price! They cost twice as much as the shimano's. :mad:


M_S
08-06-07, 04:42 PM
I just paid a small fortune for a set of campy bar end shifters. I couldn't believe how much those things cost. They could have at least written "record" on them for that price! They cost twice as much as the shimano's. :mad:

I want Dura Ace written on my bar ends only because it's a Tiagra/Deore equipped touring bike :D

And twice as much for Campy? Pshh, who cares? If you're riding Shimano all the cool kids will make fun of you!

Treefox
08-06-07, 04:48 PM
Maybe hunt down an old pair of bar end shifters from the days when they were on the end of the drops?

ratebeer
08-06-07, 04:57 PM
Maybe hunt down an old pair of bar end shifters from the days when they were on the end of the drops?

I had a bike like that in high school and those bar end shifters even looked cooler and were probably lighter!

UT_Dude
08-06-07, 05:09 PM
Yup, those are really all the options.

That said, the fact that SRAM costs 2x more is one of those you-get-what-you-pay-for things. They freaking rock. Absolutely no contest the best out there.

CrimsonKarter21
08-06-07, 05:53 PM
Yup, those are really all the options.

That said, the fact that SRAM costs 2x more is one of those you-get-what-you-pay-for things. They freaking rock. Absolutely no contest the best out there. Can I put those Srams on friction?

cslone
08-06-07, 06:14 PM
Nope, the rear is indexed.

daytonian
08-06-07, 06:26 PM
I just paid a small fortune for a set of campy bar end shifters. I couldn't believe how much those things cost. They could have at least written "record" on them for that price! They cost twice as much as the shimano's. :mad:

Did they shift twice as good?:D

CrimsonKarter21
08-06-07, 06:32 PM
Nope, the rear is indexed.
I meant the front, do you know about that?

canili
08-06-07, 06:37 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-SHIMANO-DURA-ACE-BAR-END-SHIFTERS-ROAD-TRIATHLON_W0QQitemZ160144480860QQihZ006QQcategoryZ36140QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

There are other 10spd in auctions too...If you need 9spd there are tons for pretty cheap

waterrockets
08-06-07, 07:06 PM
Yup, those are really all the options.

That said, the fact that SRAM costs 2x more is one of those you-get-what-you-pay-for things. They freaking rock. Absolutely no contest the best out there.

I would say too, to keep your eyes open in 2008. I spoke with one of their product development managers about an invention I had, and it turns out they were already developing it. There will be more SRAM TT shifting options coming soon, and they are pretty sweet (and it has nothing to do with materials -- all engineering).

They won't be the price leaders though ;)

LowCel
08-06-07, 07:07 PM
Did they shift twice as good?:D

How could they not, they're campy!!! :D

cslone
08-06-07, 07:13 PM
I meant the front, do you know about that?

Front is friction.

UT_Dude
08-06-07, 07:24 PM
Yeah, SRAM is friction front, indexed rear. Cool feature, though, is that you can actually adjust how much friction is on the front shifter. Fun to mess with and get it just where you like it.

imnotclever
08-07-07, 07:29 AM
I spoke with one of their product development managers about an invention I had, and it turns out they were already developing it.

[product development manager] "Oh, yeah, you want to do what? Take the cable and route it through where? Yeah, um, we've been working on that already."

[hangs up phone] "Charlie, get in here, I've got a new idea!"

cslone
08-07-07, 07:37 AM
I spoke with one of their product development managers about an invention I had, and it turns out they were already developing it. There will be more SRAM TT shifting options coming soon, and they are pretty sweet (and it has nothing to do with materials

What is it, what is it!?

waterrockets
08-07-07, 07:48 AM
[product development manager] "Oh, yeah, you want to do what? Take the cable and route it through where? Yeah, um, we've been working on that already."

[hangs up phone] "Charlie, get in here, I've got a new idea!"

:roflmao: they already had a technical name for the feature "Oh, you mean a blurfle. Yeah, we'll be introducing those in 2008."

Maybe they'll market it as a SRAM W-Rocket shifter.


What is it, what is it!?

It's a shifter ;)

He accidentally disclosed it to me because he seemed a little excited that I had come up with the same thing, and I said I wouldn't say anything. It's nothing earth-shattering, but if you look at pictures of TT bikes in races, and their shifters, it's pretty clear that some aerodynamic improvements could be made...

Now that I think about it, I'll bet Shimano will kill all TT shifters with electronic D-A bar-cons...

Treefox
08-07-07, 08:37 AM
I've always thought one could do up some sort of rotating thingy - kinda like a gripshift, but smaller and on the end of the bars - so you just roll them forward or back with your thumbs.

Or a ratchet deal like STI/Ergopower with smaller bits to fit on the end of the bars.

tfro
08-07-07, 08:43 AM
Or a ratchet deal like STI/Ergopower with smaller bits to fit on the end of the bars.

That's what I'd like to see, why have those levers pointing up and down all the time when they could point dead ahead. Although fitting the mechanism might take up enough volume to create more drag in itself...

waterrockets
08-07-07, 09:10 AM
Hmmm. Yeah, and they could call them W-Rockets! Maybe if you could adjust their neutral angle so they point into the wind...

UT_Dude
08-07-07, 09:33 AM
Now you've got me curious...

tfro
08-07-07, 10:10 AM
Hmmm. Yeah, and they could call them W-Rockets! Maybe if you could adjust their neutral angle so they point into the wind...

You'd think they could put all the ratchet mechanism in the RD/FD so that you could make the brifters or bar end shifters way more aero/ergonomical. Although I'm not really sure how much drag those bar end shifters really create, especially compared to some of the TT handlebar setups that are being used.

I do agree that electric shifting is the future of TT/Tri setups, next step will be putting it with a power meter that makes it shift for you automatically to keep you in the perfect power/cadence range... (ok, that might be a bit of a stretch).

Treefox
08-07-07, 10:40 AM
next step will be putting it with a power meter that makes it shift for you automatically to keep you in the perfect power/cadence range... (ok, that might be a bit of a stretch).

Not a stretch at all.

cslone
08-07-07, 11:33 AM
Waterrockets Pm'd me and told me that the 08 SRAM will be shaped like a penis.

waterrockets
08-07-07, 11:56 AM
Waterrockets Pm'd me and told me that the 08 SRAM will be shaped like a penis.

That's it, you're banned. You better not post the shot of me, umm, using it. If Botto was still around, I'd go yanking all my recent pic and vid links...

cslone
08-07-07, 12:20 PM
:D

What did I miss with Botto?

waterrockets
08-07-07, 12:50 PM
Same thing I missed. I haven't seen a post from him in a while.

LowCel
08-07-07, 01:23 PM
Hmmm, I haven't heard anything either. :o

He's online as we speak though.

cslone
08-07-07, 02:20 PM
Pinny, Pinny, Pinny. ALL PRO CYCLISTS ARE DOPERS.

There, that's like a Batsignal for him to respond.

waterrockets
08-07-07, 02:27 PM
:roflmao: