General Cycling Discussion - Whatcha got under those shorts?

Ok, so the ghetto biker is starting to spend money. I bought a set of padded lycra shorts and they are nice, but the padding and i disagree sometimes. I must admit that the post about them helped the purchase, and I'm getting used to them. But what i really want to know is what you got under them shorts? I'm a boxers man, but the seem in my boxers has got to go. I'm thinking about trying a hybrid or even breifs.

Some may call me a pervert... and there is not much i can do to disagree with that because well.. i do want to know.

call me sick..

Thanks
-Ross

C'mon, now, how many differenct ways do we have to say it?

No underwear under the cycling shorts!!!!!

RichC

Erm, my manhood?

That's like wearing underwear under your underwear. Bike shorts are designed to be worn on their own. Nothing underneath.

If you insist on wearing underwear, don't waste your money on bike shorts. The underwear negates the benefits so you're just spending money on something you're not going to use.

spazegun2213, watch out... you're on the verge of having the Underwear Nazi descend upon your case. :D

hmm.. well at least i know have my answer, now my question... how to change in pubilc and not be seen.....

if I am wearing a brand new Bike short, I don't wear anything but after several laundry on the short, I tend to wear a brief, just to keep it in place....

The question should be:

1. How many of you folks who proclaim the benefits of nothing under your shorts continually write and ask about udder balm, chamois butter, rash, chafing, soreness and who knows what else, and;

2. How many of us folks who know the "true way" DON'T and AREN'T continually writing and complaining and whining.

As I recall, it is the folks who proclaim the "no shorts" doctrine who are the VERY SAME FOLKS who write about udder balm, chamois butter, baby powder, corn starch, rash, chafing, soreness and who knows what else.

From one who knows the "true way" and in 5 years and 14,000 miles has NEVER had to use chamois butter, udder balm, nor any other medication, nor baby powder, and has NEVER had a rash or soreness or chafing.

So QUIT YOUR COMPLAINING, you folks without undies, or CHANGE WHAT YOU WEAR. I am sick of your whining, griping, chafing and soreness when the true answer is right in your dresser drawer.

Originally posted by DnvrFox
The question should be:

1. How many of you folks who proclaim the benefits of nothing under your shorts continually write and ask about udder balm, chamois butter, rash, chafing, soreness and who knows what else, and;

2. How many of us folks who know the "true way" DON'T and AREN'T continually writing and complaining and whining.

As I recall, it is the folks who proclaim the "no shorts" doctrine who are the VERY SAME FOLKS who write about udder balm, chamois butter, baby powder, corn starch, rash, chafing, soreness and who knows what else.

From one who knows the "true way" and in 5 years and 14,000 miles has NEVER had to use chamois butter, udder balm, nor any other medication, nor baby powder, and has NEVER had a rash or soreness or chafing.

So QUIT YOUR COMPLAINING, you folks without undies, or CHANGE WHAT YOU WEAR. I am sick of your whining, griping, chafing and soreness when the true answer is right in your dresser drawer.

Uh oh!

For transportation cycling, I sometimes wear my cycling shorts as underwear beneath my street shorts. I avoid skin problems by using a good saddle (50K mile Brooks Pro) and washing and line-drying (ultraviolet light is a great disinfectant) my shorts very frequently.

Originally posted by DnvrFox
The question should be:

1. How many of you folks who proclaim the benefits of nothing under your shorts continually write and ask about udder balm, chamois butter, rash, chafing, soreness and who knows what else, and;



Maybe because it's the only way we can use the term Udder-Butter without getting strange looks... :p

Nothing underneath, and never will

Actually I had less a$s soreness with underwear then without (briefs in particular). Don't know why but for some reason I did, and wore them ever since. Maybe I should give it another try since you "underwear free" people seem so happy.

Don't make me angry.

You wouldn't like me when I'm angry.

Underwear Nazi
About to hulk out

Where is the underwear Nazi when you need him :D spazegun that little pad is a chamois it is NOT designed to pad your ride but to absorb and wick away moisture you will seriously curtail this function by putting anything between your boys and your bike shorts. As far a butter or such I personally have only used it once and it was due to the bad sewing job done on the shorts. I say break in your butt it is as important as breaking in a saddle. So if you feel the need to wear underwear go for it but save your money and don't by cycling shorts then cause you are spending a lot of money for something that isn't going to work anyway.

Originally posted by CMonster
Maybe because it's the only way we can use the term Udder-Butter without getting strange looks... :p

Saying Butt Butter in public is sooo much fun:p

Originally posted by Underwear Nazi
Don't make me angry.

You wouldn't like me when I'm angry.

Underwear Nazi
About to hulk out

No one can make anyone else angry. You make yourself angry by the responses you give to stimuli.

Maybe you wouldn't be so angry if your bottom wasn't being irritated constantly by your bike shorts??

Get some underwear and you will smile more.

Originally posted by Underwear Nazi
Don't make me angry.

You wouldn't like me when I'm angry.

Underwear Nazi
About to hulk out

:roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao:

I needed that.

For me: First the chamois liners, then the 'hybrids' (I'm assuming this term refers to the Hanes variety, like briefs but with legs?). Quite comfy. Briefs (Y-fronts) don't thrill me at all, and as for boxers, I believe as Kramer does: "My boys need a house!".

-Rob

For me... it's got to be Boxers...

I wear a pair of Azonic Catalyst "DH shorts" ... so riding without undies would be veddy veddy bad....

:beer:

Man!.....who wears panties under their pantyhose???

Dnvrfox has a point!!!

Originally posted by DnvrFox
No one can make anyone else angry. You make yourself angry by the responses you give to stimuli.


You only say that to piss me off! :mad:

*Sigh*

Just when I thought I could be a kinder, gentler Underwear Nazi, this thread comes along!

OK, Spazegun, let's try to make this as clear as possible. Padded lycra bicycle shorts are designed to be worn next to the skin. Putting anything between the chamois and your butt defeats the purpose of the chamois, can cause chafing, and increases your risk of developing infected saddle sores. Infected saddle sores are not fun. Going commando is fun.

To sum up: No underwear under your bike shorts, ever. No excuses.

Got it?

Good.

If you are just too embarassed to be seen in public wearing skin tight shorts, you can put some baggies over your lycra or stuff a rolled-up sock down the front before you go into the coffee shop.

Chamois Creme or a similar product can be a useful weapon in the war against saddle sores. Chamois Creme is your friend. Try it. In the words of Congressman David Dilbeck "It's squishy."

And Spaze? Don't listen to DnvrFox. He is the devil, Satan, the Great Deceiver, Beelzebub, the Prince of Darkness, Lucifer, the Adversary. He is trying to seduce you to the dark side. He is after your soul! Shun him. Resist him with all your strength. Flee from him. Reject the evils of underwear and be free.

Underwear Nazi
Still fighting the good fight

The acronym for Undewear Nazi is "UN." Hmm. The UN!!

This is a worldwide conspiracy to not wear undies led by the folks at the UN. You know - those guys who didn't want us to go to war with Iraq - the ones who wanted proof of the Weapons of Mass Destruction (WMD's) before we bombed the **** out of Iraq.

There you have it. We have finally found the WMD's, but they exist right here in our midst. PEOPLE WHO WEAR BIKE SHORTS WITOUT UNDIES. That causes chafing, soreness, and a worldwide run on Udder Balm. That causes millions of cows not to have balm on their udders because it has all been bought up by guys (and gals??) creating a milk shortage. What better WMD could there be than a shortage of milk. So, folks, preserve the milk for future generations and wear undies. Help to save the world from the Nazis!!

Originally posted by DnvrFox
The acronym for Undewear Nazi is "UN." Hmm. The UN!!

This is a worldwide conspiracy to not wear undies led by the folks at the UN....

You can't prove that.

Underwear Nazi
Novus Ordo Seclorum

It does not appear in our modern world that "proof" is really necessary, does it?

Anyway, enough of this. Those of us in the "know" will go through life with our undies on, comfortable, without chafing, redness, continous complaining and being quite happy.

Those of you "not in the know" will go through life writing to forums such as this, continually complaining about the poor condition of their bottoms and asking for miracle solutions such as udder balm, chamois butter, salves, ointments, baby powders, techniques of washing out those germs and bacteria forever imbedded in their chamois (you know - "put it in the sun for 24 hours" or "use a teaspoon of bleach" - desperate attempts kinds of advice) and continuously worrying that they may have never-ending saddle sores. And those of us "in the know" will silently chortle to ourselves - the fool, he ignores the obvious solution. "Hey Dummy, PUT AN EASILY CLEANABLE BARRIER BETWEEN THE CHAMOIS - (SO SUSCEPTIBLE TO CONTNIUOUS GERM AND BACTERIA GROWTH) - AND YOUR BUTT."

Good day - enough said.

Ross you sure stired one up here!
-;) -;)

Joe

I looked up Chamois in the Westbers Very Unabridged Dictionary and found the following:

"Chamois - n. A material designed by mad scientists to foment the growth of bacteria, germs and smells. Used when Petri dishes with jello will not grow the stuff. Sometimes used by bicyclists to insure redness and growth of bacteria on their butts.

It is impossible to fully clean a chamois, leading to long-term buildups of a virtual horde of different kinds of bacteria and other noxious and nauseous stuff. Microscopc views of chamois cloths were used in Ghost Busters and Men in Black to develop the strange and weird characters seen in these two movies."

Originally posted by DnvrFox
The acronym for Undewear Nazi is "UN." Hmm. The UN!!

This is a worldwide conspiracy to not wear undies led by the folks at the UN. You know - those guys who didn't want us to go to war with Iraq - the ones who wanted proof of the Weapons of Mass Destruction (WMD's) before we bombed the **** out of Iraq.

There you have it. We have finally found the WMD's, but they exist right here in our midst. PEOPLE WHO WEAR BIKE SHORTS WITOUT UNDIES. That causes chafing, soreness, and a worldwide run on Udder Balm. That causes millions of cows not to have balm on their udders because it has all been bought up by guys (and gals??) creating a milk shortage. What better WMD could there be than a shortage of milk. So, folks, preserve the milk for future generations and wear undies. Help to save the world from the Nazis!!

its not the UN that is conspiring against us it is cats, be careful they are want the un to take the fall. it keeps everyones eyes off of them, but thats for another thread (or session with the shrink ;) )

OKay so here it is Denver in every group of people there are the ones that refuse to let nature take its course and will try and use stuff to beat it. And it doesn't work, and of course marketers play on their fears. If you are chaffing then look at the shorts carefully is the pad stitched down firmly and trimmed are there loose ends or padding that hasn't been trimmed away. If you have continued chaffing maybe you should look at alternatives to Bike shorts. But here is the big thing (and laugh if you must) you actually have to break in your butt. Let the darn thing get used to sitting on a hard leather/vinyl block for hours on end. It need time to adjust itself to doing that chore. As for all the bacteria and what not it is the paranoid few that don't think that you can control germs and what not by good hygiene and keeping ones clothes washed properly. Remember 99.9% of those germs and bacteria they are trying to kill came off their ooey gooey butt buttered butt :eek: if it has bad germs do two things clean your butt regularly and of course look into whether your bottle of butt butter has some how been contaminated and throw it out cause you really do not need it. :D So shower regularly and just keep yourself generally clean and you do not have to freak about germs and what not. I find that if you have a good pair of shorts you need nothing, and i mean Nothing between your shorts and your Boys (or your girls if any females have read this far :p)

Dnvrfox I am not as hard fast as Mr Nazi is about whether you wear underwear or not, it just seems that it is counter productive. If you are not getting chaff then why even buy the shorts in the first place? For the price of 1 pair of bike shorts you can but 2 to 3 pairs of shorts that will gladly take your underwear. It is just that the Chamois works best when it is used for what it does best and putting anything between it and moisture defeats its ability to absorb said moisture. If you do not believe me the next time you wash your car try drying it with a chamois with a pair of boxers on it you will find that it won't pick up the moisture as well as it would if you took off your boxers.

And for the record I wear hybrid (boxer briefs) . But I have been known to hop out of the shower and throw on a pair of shorts and a shirt. You got to let the boys out for air every once and a while it is good for their health :D

And to all you udder and butter fans. Dnvrfox did bring up a valid point that it could cause a serious udder problem and impact our Milk supply :eek: so I might recomend you switch to olive oil it has the same effect, enviromentally freindly and we can put more Calfornia farmers (save the Imported for cooking with) back to work ;)

Wicking briefs designed for running...

Y'all are wierd.

Bike shorts are underwear. Buy enough to go a week w/o washing. If you ride 7 days a week, then ya need 7 pair. Either that or wash your bike shorts AFTER EVERY RIDE. I ride 3-4 times a week, and I hate doing laundry so I have 5 pairs of shorts.

I agree with the comment about bike shorts wicking perspiration and such away from your butt. Moisture control.

Do you do the "sumo stomp" to ensure the shorts are up where they need to be? Nothing can be wicked unless there is contact between the "wicker" and the "wickee" to move the "wicked" ("wickt" not "wick-ed", though some might term it so).

I've never had to use any "skin protectants"(butt butters) but I do use copious quantities of cornstarch--can you say "moisture control?"--and the only time I have gotten a rash or been irritated is when I forget to put the stuff on.

Try it, you might like it.

And use a front loader for wash--much more effecient at cleaning.

Jeeze, everyone must be bored here lately! ;-)

Well, I think I'll have to start experimenting with my underware (now THAT sounds kinky) and see where that leads. And now i know what the avatar for the Nazi means :) i do love a good debate and this one was great!

thanks!!!!!
-Ross

Someone earlier in the thread was going on about the chamois pad not being for padding but for wicking. What gives?

I've been cycling for 10 years up to about 7-8K miles per year, and it has never even occurred to me that the pad isn't for padding.

With the trollies - I prefer a hybrid boxer-brief thang or going commando. The leg holes of briefs chafe but boxers bunch ('specially under lycra rather than baggies).

Just my tuppence,
Team

Originally posted by spazegun2213
Well, I think I'll have to start experimenting with my underware (now THAT sounds kinky) and see where that leads. And now i know what the avatar for the Nazi means :) i do love a good debate and this one was great!

thanks!!!!!
-Ross

Well, Spaze, I remember what it was like to be young. At your age I, too, refused to listen to the voice of experience, maturity and reason. I, too, wanted to prove everything for myself.

If you truly feel that you must experiment, be advised that it is not wise, safe or ethical for scientists to serve as their own lab rats. I strongly recommend using a younger sibling for this purpose.

Underwear Nazi
Wondering why DnvrFox is afraid of his chamois :confused:

If you are chaffing then look at the shorts carefully is the pad stitched down firmly and trimmed are there loose ends or padding that hasn't been trimmed away.

Me?? Chafing??

You need a remedial reading course.

I am not the one chafing. I NEVER chaf. It is you guys with the butter butts who are always complaining about chafing.

Please, please, read the thread before responding.

I would reason that if you wear underwear under your shorts, if boxers they would bunch up, if brienfs or other form fitting underwhear you have more seams etc that could possibly cause chafing. So you have seams etc on the short that can cuase the chafing plus the ones on your underwear. And leaving a piece of material between you and your shorts they can not wick as well so that is also a drawback so more moisture and more bacteria. Good chance it would be primarily in your underwear rarther then the shorts, which are cheaper to replace.

Originally posted by DnvrFox
I NEVER chaf.

If you never chafe, you're not really qualified to have an opinion. You're a fortunate exception. Congratulations.

For people who do chafe, the overwhelming body of experience seems to be that chafing is reduced by wearing cycling shorts as designed, without underwear.

And I see complaints about chafing from people who wear no underwear about as frequently as I see claims of no chafing from people who do.

People can and certainly should share their experiences. But it's always a mistake to make generalizations based on too small a sample size.

Personal experience is not a statistic.

RichC

Someone is actually taking this Thread SERIOUSLY.

Time to close it down, at least for me.

Have a great and gleeful day.:beer:

Originally posted by DnvrFox
Someone is actually taking this Thread SERIOUSLY.


DF, if you read your previous post objectively, there's no real indication that you weren't being serious. And telling someone they "need a remedial reading course" is not humor, no matter what the context.

Since you claim to "never chafe," you don't have any idea of how painful and potentially injurious it can be. It may be a joke to you, but for the many people for whom this is an issue that profoundly affects their ability to enjoy and benefit from cycling, it's not.

RichC

What is chafing and where do you chafe?
And, I am very serious...

Evidently I have never chafed.

In the summer or if it's hot out I wear a Coolmax boxer brief, when out on the motorcycle, that are extremely comfortable.
I'm thinkin for those that wear something underneath bicycle shorts, these would work.
The whole cotton underwear thing is a killer, cotton is a killer.

Originally posted by Trouble
What is chafing and where do you chafe?


Chafing is when something rubs your skin raw. It can be a seam, a fold, or even other skin.

Chafing from a seam can easily turn into an open sore on a long ride.

RichC

Originally posted by DnvrFox
Someone is actually taking this Thread SERIOUSLY.

Time to close it down, at least for me.

Have a great and gleeful day.:beer:

Well, shoot!

He left before I could call him a "hardass."

I mean that with grudging admiration.

Seems to me that bikini briefs from Wal-Mart do the trick. After all, when I bonk and get off my bike at the local Circle K, I only want the clerk looking at the packages with barcodes on them... :rolleyes: Don't you realize that everyone laughs at you after you cycle away (including me) if it looked like the pope was trapped in your shorts?

Anyway, for moi, the chamois IS padding! :D

Originally posted by spazegun2213
Ok, so the ghetto biker is starting to spend money. I bought a set of padded lycra shorts and they are nice, but the padding and i disagree sometimes. I must admit that the post about them helped the purchase, and I'm getting used to them. But what i really want to know is what you got under them shorts? I'm a boxers man, but the seem in my boxers has got to go. I'm thinking about trying a hybrid or even breifs.

Some may call me a pervert... and there is not much i can do to disagree with that because well.. i do want to know.

call me sick..

Thanks
-Ross

BOXERS!?? I can't stand boxers even when I'm just walkin around casually.... I can't believe you'd ride a BIKE with boxers! I did it once and it was EXTREMELY uncomfortable.

If its the only thing you have then you work with it. And i must admit that my ride today went much better without boxers, no bunching no nothin. I liked it, now i need to get off my arse and wash that stuff.... but I'll do that later :)

-Ross

Where's A. Troll? She could put an end to this silliness with her usual wisdom ;)

I will never look at another biker in bike shorts the same again...
Personally I just wear pants or whatever I have on at the time when I go out. And I wear boxers too :o

My "pet Republican."

Originally posted by threadend
Where's A. Troll? She could put an end to this silliness with her usual wisdom ;)

No panties under this babe's bike shorts.

Oops! No bike shorts on this babe either! ;)



Now, gimme a smooch, boyfriend. :love: :love: :love:

Originally posted by A.troll
No panties under this babe's bike shorts.

Oops! No bike shorts on this babe either! ;)


:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

This is both the funniest and most informative thread on cycling shorts I've read in quite some time. :)