Bicycle Mechanics - Bottom Bracket Issue (Retitled)

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MACinRWC
08-17-07, 09:40 PM
I got an old frame off ebay
turns out the BB was put on backwards-with great possibilities that the threading is trashed
some guy said he could get it out(LBS-cause I don;t have every single tool ever made)---without knowing about the BB problems- for a few bucks
A friend was talking about a type of BB that can go in stripped frames-that doesn;t need threads-just like lock the sides or something-does anyone know anything about this?
let me know
keep it real
do work
peace
-Mac
OneTinSloth
08-17-07, 09:50 PM
are you sure it's not just an italian or french BB? what do you mean when you say it was "put in backwards"? like, non drive side cup on the drive side? seems like that would be a VERY difficult task to complete. and easy one to make, but difficult to see through to the end.
MACinRWC
08-17-07, 10:15 PM
well the lockring is on the crank side
OneTinSloth
08-17-07, 10:25 PM
if you were straddling the frame, would the lockring be on the left-hand side, or the right-hand side of the bike?
Could be an Italian BB. Both sides have the same threads and could be interchanged with no consequence.
What does any of this have to do with ripping off a mechanic?
OneTinSloth
08-17-07, 10:33 PM
What does any of this have to do with ripping off a mechanic?
i was wondering that myself...
OneTinSloth
08-17-07, 10:33 PM
What does any of this have to do with ripping off a mechanic?
maybe we're being ripped off RIGHT NOW! or perhaps just one of us....
MACinRWC
08-17-07, 10:35 PM
if I a stradling- the lockring is on the rightside
I already took it to 2 shops
and they couldn;t get it off
so for some change
some guys having a hard time
OneTinSloth
08-17-07, 10:48 PM
if it's a cup and cone BB, that is not really normal, if it's a sealed cartridge BB, that is totally normal, and it's probably just rusted in there. and if it's totally effed in the a, then that's that. no one's really getting screwed, or ripped off here....except maybe you, i guess...
MACinRWC
08-17-07, 10:55 PM
ok
I'm keeping the heading
it brings up the views I guess
it cup+cone
Red rabbit
The moon is shining brightly
I'm hungry for cheese
The woods are lovely, dark and deep.
But I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep,
And miles to go before I sleep.
neil0502
08-18-07, 07:51 AM
"Villains!" I shrieked, "dissemble no more!
I admit the deed! -- tear up the planks! -- here, here! -- it is the beating of his hideous heart!"
neil0502
08-18-07, 07:54 AM
I'm keeping the heading. it brings up the views I guess
One vote here for "that's not cool."
Honesty would have lead you to just as much information.
BugsInMyTeeth
08-18-07, 07:57 AM
neil, your ava freaks me out. Did God weld that?
cranky old road
08-18-07, 08:05 AM
I believe MAC was wondering if it would be WRONG to enter into a contract for BB removal for a few bucks, knowing that the mechanic would be contracting for a difficult or impossible task, possibly damaging the bike and being culpable for replacement/repair. I think it is unlikely that the bottom bracket was installed with it's threading backwards to the bike. An Italian BB installed backwards is likely. Perhaps information on what type of bike this is would be helpful. Can you link to the auction, MAC? If it's an aluminum frame, I've heard ammonia is a good penetrant to loosen "rusted" threads.
Bob Dopolina
08-18-07, 08:09 AM
"Villains!" I shrieked, "dissemble no more!
I admit the deed! -- tear up the planks! -- here, here! -- it is the beating of his hideous heart!"
This is a wierd thread.
What's with the Frost and Poe quotes?
hypercube33
08-18-07, 08:15 AM
Sleep, those little slices of death; Oh how I loathe them.
cranky old road
08-18-07, 08:27 AM
This is a wierd thread.
What's with the Frost and Poe quotes?
Just bullying the high school student, I suspect. I guess we've outgrown the bit where we put his shoes in the toilet....:(
wroomwroomoops
08-18-07, 08:33 AM
Busy old fool, unruly sun,
Why dost thou thus,
Through windows and through curtains call on us?
Just bullying the high school student, I suspect. I guess we've outgrown the bit where we put his shoes in the toilet....:(
I believe we've just been scolded...
If he wrote complete sentences that conveyed a lucid point then he wouldn't have been bullied.
Yeah, right.
wroomwroomoops
08-18-07, 08:41 AM
Just bullying the high school student, I suspect. I guess we've outgrown the bit where we put his shoes in the toilet....:(
Nothing to do with him being a high school student. He seems to write his posts with his buttocks, which also seem to do the thinking.
At least our responses are elegant, if unhelpful. His posts are both unhelpful and ... unelegant doesn't even begin to describe that mess.
Just bullying the high school student, I suspect. I guess we've outgrown the bit where we put his shoes in the toilet....:(
Look at you: member of the honor roll, assistant to the assistant manager of the movie theater. I'm tellin' ya, Rat, if this girl can't smell your qualifications, then who needs her, right?
neil0502
08-18-07, 09:05 AM
neil, your ava freaks me out. Did God weld that?
I can't say for sure, but ... there's a bit of a bike path not far from my house. At one point, it's surrounded on either side by golf-course type water hazards. After it rains, the water overflows the bike path.
The last time I rode the Moots there, in those conditions, I'm almost certain that the waters parted as I approached.
I know. Weird, huh?
I've always said: a sloppy-looking weld might be structurally perfect. A beautiful weld may not be perfect, and -- in any case -- may not be any better than any other weld.
But they sure are purty, aren't they :)
Better view @ http://www.nbeener.com/BB_WELDS_2.JPG
I got an old frame off ebay
Ebay is a place where you can dump your trash and get premium prices for it. Never buy old stuff on Ebay. Consider this a learning experience.
A friend was talking about a type of BB that can go in stripped frames-that doesn;t need threads-just like lock the sides or something-does anyone know anything about this?
www.biketoolsetc.com had them at one time. I just checked but could not find that type of BB on their site. They were sort of expensive so I could never justify ordering one to go on a frame worth less than the cost of that repair BB. I guess that’s the reason they don’t sell them anymore.
MACinRWC
08-18-07, 09:18 AM
nice
MACinRWC
08-18-07, 09:20 AM
craigslist instead?
Bushman
08-18-07, 09:43 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJ1tf6GO4-c
wroomwroomoops
08-18-07, 12:05 PM
Ebay is a place where you can dump your trash and get premium prices for it.
Oh yeah. (http://cgi.ebay.com/Marin-Team-Issue-mountain-bike-single-speed-project_W0QQitemZ190141536916QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting)
Bob Dopolina
08-18-07, 08:33 PM
A friend was talking about a type of BB that can go in stripped frames-that doesn;t need threads-just like lock the sides or something-does anyone know anything about this?
Mavic made a square taper BB that seated in the BB shell without using threads. It has chamfered sides so it was self-aligning. I ran one with a Croce'd Une (I think that was how it was spelled)Crank on and old Merckx frame I converted into a fixed gear bike. It worked fine. Might be hard to find now, though. This was more than 10 or 12 years ago and it was already old then.
MACinRWC
08-18-07, 09:34 PM
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Disgruntled Luddite
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hella random
unless this is inside nerdy internet bike guy lingo
MACinRWC
08-18-07, 09:39 PM
but anyway
the guys at chain reaction wouldn't take it
the guys at performance are kinda weird
and the guy at go ride took it
but gave it back to me today
might give it to palo alto bike shop
its such a sick looking frame
thats probably why the dude was selling it
anyone have a report on that guy called the "bike doctor"
or does he just pay chain reactcion(redwood City) to pass out his card to every single person who steps foot in their doors .
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