Singlespeed & Fixed Gear - anybody priced custom track frames?

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dmotoguy
08-19-07, 09:50 PM
What are most builders prices for a basic track frame?
bonechilling
08-19-07, 10:05 PM
It varies pretty wildly, from $850 for a Jacob to $2000+ for a Moyer. It all depends on what you're looking for.
dmotoguy
08-19-07, 10:15 PM
Our track is opening next april, I just want a nice riding track frame.. Something I can sit and drool over when I'm not riding it, priced near $1500 or so I guess.
Gyeswho
08-19-07, 10:19 PM
i hear some Japanese frames actually come pretty cheap when custom but none of the big namers tho
bonechilling
08-19-07, 10:41 PM
I don't know, you can get a custom Panasonic for $1295 from yellowjersey.com.
They look pretty hot to me:
http://www.yellowjersey.org/panak.html
freeskihp
08-19-07, 10:45 PM
kalavinka is another solid choice
goldenskeletons
08-19-07, 11:02 PM
there's a lot of US builders that are really great, but i don't know prices or wait times off the top of my head. johnny coast, circle A, moyer, ground up, don walker...
a good place to find people that do custom work is the North American Handbuilt Bike Show. (http://www.handmadebicycleshow.com/) there's some really gorgeous bikes there, but its also a step in the right direction to finding a framebuilder that can create what you need. its worth checking out.
nateintokyo
08-20-07, 06:04 AM
I don't know, you can get a custom Panasonic for $1295 from yellowjersey.com.
They look pretty hot to me:
http://www.yellowjersey.org/panak.html
....custom Panasonics are a good deal cheaper in Japan--$788. $500 is a pretty serious markup.
Bridgestone has semi-custom rigs for a bit cheaper with rad paint options.
Most of the old-dude-in-a-little-workshop frames are $950 and up...
deathhare
08-20-07, 06:05 AM
I don't know, you can get a custom Panasonic for $1295 from yellowjersey.com.
They look pretty hot to me:
http://www.yellowjersey.org/panak.html
Damn Yellow Jersey sure is taking a chunk for themselves eh? Cant blame em though.
Getting a Panasonic thru a shop like that in Japan is just $643usd.
nateintokyo
08-20-07, 06:18 AM
all the options on the Panasonic frames are awesome. here are the lugs:
http://www.panabyc.co.jp/products/pos/fpos/fpos_crmo_lug.html
deathhare
08-20-07, 06:22 AM
Cool stuff.
Ive been thinking of getting one for awhile.
dmotoguy
08-20-07, 07:57 AM
dang, Are there any other importers other than yellowjersey?
nateintokyo
08-20-07, 08:32 AM
this looks rad:
http://www.panabyc.co.jp/products/pos/fpos/img/fe_3d_s.jpg
the fork options are cool too:
http://www.panabyc.co.jp/products/pos/fpos/img/ab_c.jpg
http://www.panabyc.co.jp/products/pos/fpos/img/ab_o.jpg
http://www.panabyc.co.jp/products/pos/fpos/img/ab_o2.jpg
bonechilling
08-20-07, 08:47 AM
Damn Yellow Jersey sure is taking a chunk for themselves eh? Cant blame em though.
Getting a Panasonic thru a shop like that in Japan is just $643usd.
Yeah, but how hard is it really for a non-speaker to order one of these bikes either through their website or other means? Factor in $100+ for shipping (I would guess), and other incidental costs along the way, along with the hassle of the ordering process, and that's not really too huge of a mark-up for Yellow Jersey. Not much more than is standard on a high-end bike, at least.
deathhare
08-20-07, 08:51 AM
True.
And i dont blame em for wanting to make some money. Thats what having a shop is all about.
More power to em' IMO.
It wouldnt be hard for someone in Japan to get frames from Panasonic and beat YellowJersey's price by a lot though.
If they were so inclined to do so. :)
nateintokyo
08-20-07, 08:58 AM
the order form is just a big check list. once it is translated once it would be easy for non Japanese speakers to do it. I am not dissing Yellow ∆ersey for facilitating the flow of rad frames to the States, but their help will cost you ;)
http://www.panabyc.co.jp/products/pos/fpos/pdf/07fpos_crmo.pdf
looks like they do titanium track frames from $1400 too.
dmotoguy
08-20-07, 09:18 AM
can babelfish translate that ?
nateintokyo
08-20-07, 09:21 AM
its a PDF, so you'd probably have to copy and paste piece by piece. there are lots and lots and lots of options.
theetruscan
08-20-07, 09:51 AM
Ira Ryan, Circle A, Ahearne, Bill Rider all come to mind as frame builders who will do a track frame (some with fork, some without) for < $1500. They're all lugged, custom steel frames, and at least the first three I know would be ready before April. There are at least a handful of others too.
willypilgrim
08-20-07, 09:55 AM
Just go to a sushi shop a few times, be friends with the chef, and then ask them to help u order a keirin bike!!!!!
moe sizlack
08-20-07, 10:31 AM
Just go to a sushi shop a few times, be friends with the chef, and then ask them to help u order a keirin bike!!!!!
Day, night, afternoon, who gives a damn? Get the sake!!
http://velospace.org/files/IMG_0268.JPG
This is my custom 'level'. It recently took about 8 weeks from order to finished frame. It came with
hatta headset and bottom bracket included and cost about us$1200.
more details are on http://velospace.org/node/3494
As a custom, I couldn't be happier
dmotoguy
08-20-07, 11:07 AM
thats very nice looking.
I dont know, for some reason I thought all of these prestegious bike builders were no longer building bikes.. let alone for attainable prices.
You can't get the panasonic shipped to the US, they will only do orders inside of Japan. Also, the YJ mark up is b/c the base price is higher since they are the only ones distributing in the US.
I have been down this path a year or so ago.
Do you want custom sizing? There a dozen companies in Portland that can do that. The most baller of which is Vanilla, >$2000.
Here are some Portland based builders. I see lots of Vanilla bikes around here, surprising given their price. The word on the street is that they kick ass.
http://www.ahearnecycles.com/ (http://www.ahearnecycles.com/)
http://www.vanillabicycles.com/ (http://www.vanillabicycles.com/)
http://www.strawberrybicycle.com/ (http://www.strawberrybicycle.com/)
http://www.pereiracycles.com/ (http://www.pereiracycles.com/)
http://sweetpeabicycles.com/ (http://sweetpeabicycles.com/)
Our track is opening next april, I just want a nice riding track frame.. Something I can sit and drool over when I'm not riding it, priced near $1500 or so I guess.
If you want something for the track wait a year or two. Buying a frame custom frame without knowing exactly what you need is stupid unless you are freakishly proportioned. At the end of next season or maybe the year after you'll know what you need from a track frame and you'll be able to work with the builder to get you something that will ride nice. If all you know is that you want a generic track frame you might as well just get an off the rack one.
If you just want a fancy bike so that you can posses something expensive and drool over it by all means go ahead and buy it now.
goldenskeletons
08-20-07, 12:14 PM
its funny, i was thinking the same thing as dutret when i posted, but i kinda got the feeling that somebody else would come along and say instead.
thanks dutret!
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