Southern California - Angeles Crest yet again 8/25

Okay, sounds good to me. Assuming there isn't anything too terribly pressing for me to do at work this Saturday, I hope to be there. Are there directions to the start somewhere?

I think Keith and some others are starting at the bottom around 6 or 6:30 and Bob and Christy are leaving Red Box early, maybe 7ish. I'm not sure if we'll catch them, but Keith will catch us.
Oh, and scvroadie, (Lee), said he wants to start at Charlton and do 75 miles. Charlton is a day use area about 8 or 9 miles further up Angeles Crest from Red Box.

Okay, sounds good to me. Assuming there isn't anything too terribly pressing for me to do at work this Saturday, I hope to be there. Are there directions to the start somewhere?

I know you've been there before. I'm not sure of the best way to get through the city, but if you're coming from the south, get to the 2 from the 134 and take the 2 to the 210 and go right toward Pasadena, the first exit is Angeles Crest. Turn left and go up about 14 miles to Red Box road. If coming via 405 to 118 to 210, AC is about 10-12 miles from the 118. From your parents, just take the 210 to AC.

Yup, been there, but don't remember the freeway exits. So it looks like I take I-5 north to CA-2 north to I-210 east, and then exit Angelest Crest and head up the road until I'm there. Does that sound right? If I recall correctly, I have to buy a parking permit at the Shell station or something, no? Thanks for the directions.

Yeah, you got it. You can get an Adventure Pass at the Shell or some other stores like Sports Chalet. National forest websites have lists. I should look for a link.

Okay, cool. I hope to make it, but if I'm not there rolling at 8 AM from Red Box, don't go looking for me. Probably just means lab commitments kept me away.

I think Keith and some others are starting at the bottom around 6 or 6:30 and Bob and Christy are leaving Red Box early, maybe 7ish.
I'm not sure when I'm starting, it looks like Grassy Hollow if I start at 8am and that's ok. Save some legs for GMR on Sunday. If I go to Wrightwood it will give me a chance to see whats on Newcomb's dinner menu on the way back. ;)

I'm not sure when I'm starting, it looks like Grassy Hollow if I start at 8am and that's ok. Save some legs for GMR on Sunday. If I go to Wrightwood it will give me a chance to see whats on Newcomb's dinner menu on the way back. ;)

I'm not sure when I'm starting either ... probably earlier than 8, but not sure yet.

Here is a shot from this ride on the 4th.
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u308/bigjohn53/acclimb.jpg
There is a little dirt section.
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u308/bigjohn53/acwashout.jpg

Anybody interested in a 7:30 start from Redbox?

I'm thinkin' 8:00 is kinda late for a ride to Wrightwood and back.

Great pictures!!

I wouldn't mind starting earlier.

Anybody interested in a 7:30 start from Redbox?

I'm thinkin' 8:00 is kinda late for a ride to Wrightwood and back.
What's with the dissention? If you want to ride with the group, start at 8:00. When you start suggesting different start times, it just confuses everyone. We have an e-mail list going around and this thread going and everyone has been told 8:00. If you want a different start time, next time when we first propose the ride, say it then. Or, start a thread for a ride and put whatever start time you want.
I can't figure out why anyone is concerned about starting early, unless they have to be somewhere.
If you guys are really concerned about time we could turn back at Grassy Hollow.

Big John has spoken! ..... :fight: ... :D

By the way, Keith and Manny are starting at the bottom at 6:45. Sounds like their plan is to do mt. wilson, then Dawson's, but turn around from there for an even 100.

I plan on being there, starting with the group at Red Box and going wherever they go. Can't wait. :)

Big John has spoken! ..... :fight: ... :D

By the way, Keith and Manny are starting at the bottom at 6:45. Sounds like their plan is to do mt. wilson, then Dawson's, but turn around from there for an even 100.Vance, are you going with them? They're doing Mt Wilson first?

I may as well throw my plan out there . I plan on getting to Charlton flats at around 7:15 and riding down to meet whoever is riding up from Red Box . Last time getting to Red Box made for a late day and I would like to get to at least Grassy Hollow. Of course this all hinges on me getting up in time.
So there is my dissenting , John.

Vance, are you going with them? They're doing Mt Wilson first?

I am wavering. I don't think I have the mettle for both AC on Sat and Baldy on Sun. :o

I may as well throw my plan out there . I plan on getting to Charlton flats at around 7:15 and riding down to meet whoever is riding up from Red Box . Last time getting to Red Box made for a late day and I would like to get to at least Grassy Hollow. Of course this all hinges on me getting up in time.
So there is my dissenting , John.
Now that's a good idea! Have you spoken to Carrie? She wants to go but she's not sure yet.

I am wavering. I don't think I have the mettle for both AC on Sat and Baldy on Sun. :o
Oh, please. If you come with the mortals and start at Red Box you will be fine. The climb of GMR/GRR is easy for you.

I may as well throw my plan out there . I plan on getting to Charlton flats at around 7:15 and riding down to meet whoever is riding up from Red Box . Last time getting to Red Box made for a late day and I would like to get to at least Grassy Hollow. Of course this all hinges on me getting up in time.
So there is my dissenting , John.I like your idea Cathy, wanna carpool up from the park like before. How's 6:30?

I may as well throw my plan out there . I plan on getting to Charlton flats at around 7:15 and riding down to meet whoever is riding up from Red Box . Last time getting to Red Box made for a late day and I would like to get to at least Grassy Hollow. Of course this all hinges on me getting up in time.
So there is my dissenting , John.

Good idea. Charlton down to Redbox to pickup the 8:00 starters.

I like finishing at Charlton instead of Redbox since I'd planned on going to the AWINER
dinner in Calabasas. Is this a go?

I guess I'm going to start with Keith and Manny. Hopefully we cross paths with y'all somewhere up there (unless you go to Wrightwood, in which case we probably won't see you).

Change in plans for me. My hamstring has been bothering me this week & it's not healed enough for me to ride AC yet. So I'll do easier rides this weekend & live to climb another day. Have a great time ... I'll be thinking of you!

Change in plans for me. My hamstring has been bothering me this week & it's not healed enough for me to ride AC yet. So I'll do easier rides this weekend & live to climb another day. Have a great time ... I'll be thinking of you! Sorry to hear that, Aqua. Take it easy on that hammy and get Bruce to give you a massage.

Good idea. Charlton down to Redbox to pickup the 8:00 starters.

I like finishing at Charlton instead of Redbox since I'd planned on going to the AWINER
dinner in Calabasas. Is this a go?

Not sure what time I will get to Charlton, but riding down towards Red Box sounds good to me.

Not sure what time I will get to Charlton, but riding down towards Red Box sounds good to me. Lee, even if you don't go all the way to Red Box, you can meet up with the rest of us coming up. I still intend to be at Red Box at 8:00, regardless of how I get there. At Charlton, you won't have that climb at the end.

Sorry to hear that, Aqua. Take it easy on that hammy and get Bruce to give you a massage.

+1 Sorry, Christy - heal up and feel better.

+1 Sorry, Christy - heal up and feel better.

Thanks, ME & John. I could probably do the ride & push it, but as it's not 100% yet, I felt it was better to be conservative & be OK to ride AC next week :D Have fun!

Thanks, ME & John. I could probably do the ride & push it, but as it's not 100% yet, I felt it was better to be conservative & be OK to ride AC next week :D Have fun!

I'm not going to be out there either, Christy. And it sucks because the following Saturday I'm having my cable/internet service installed during the morning and will, yet again, miss another epic ride. :mad: About all the climbing I'll be doing is in Griffith Park, fighting off mountain lions.

http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~obs/towercam.htm

Just confirming that I'll be there. 8 AM at Red Box, ready to roll. See you guys soon.

Hope to see y'all up there.

We had quite a turnout, at least 20, but Asia and her crew turned back at Dawson Saddle, (well, Travis did end up with a century), and Sarah was feeling sick, so she turned back early and Keith, Manny, and Vance went with her. They started at the bottom of AC anyway. 10 of us went to Grassy Hollow and back to Newcomb Ranch for snacks, where we learned the road was closed due to an accident. We ended up waiting for hours and some of them had beers while we waited.
A lot of them were late for evening activities, including Pete, for his wifes birthday, and Lee for Awiners' dinner. Jason didn't seem to mind, and he rode very well today. I was impressed.

where we learned the road was closed due to an accident. We ended up waiting for hours and some of them had beers while we waited.

Tragic. I wish the racers would go to the race track.

ANGELES CREST HIGHWAY - A motorcycle crashed into a Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department vehicle today, authorities said, leaving the biker dead and the road shut down for hours.

Around 2 p.m., a sheriff's department mountain rescue truck was driving the winding, secluded road near the 45 mile marker, when it encountered a solo motorcyclist.

"They were just driving along, failed to negotiate the turn and crashed head-on into our vehicle," said Sheriff's Lt. Chris Cahhal.

The Los Angeles County Fire Department sent a crew to administer CPR, but the unidentifed man behind the handlebars died at the scene. The sheriff's deputy was unhurt. The California Highway Patrol shut down the highway, a popular and dangerous destination for bikers, to investigate the crash.

John convinced me to come out to the next one

I'll be at the next AC ride

John convinced me to come out to the next one

I'll be at the next AC rideOh boy, fresh meat.

Driving home from Encanto this afternoon we could see a fire burning on the south side of the San Gabriels. It looked to be somewhere around Echo Mt. maybe up from Lake. Oh noooooooo.

Oh boy, fresh meat.

I think i've been up before but that must have been at least a year ago.

Vance said he'll attach a rope to his waist!

Thanks John for organizing. I had a blast out there, and I hope it won't be another year before I join your group out there again.

Do I need to prepare for this ride ? Is it easy? I dont know if I can climb for more than a couple of miles

Driving home from Encanto this afternoon we could see a fire burning on the south side of the San Gabriels. It looked to be somewhere around Echo Mt. maybe up from Lake. Oh noooooooo.

Yeah, I rode from Encanto down the SGRT with a friend and got dumplings after in Arcadia and we saw the smoke on the way back up the SGRT. When I got home the helicoptor flight path (I think after refilling with water) was directly over my house, about 100 feet up. My gardener was there and said she'd seen the flames moving up the ridge (looked like a couple miles up from me) earlier, and that it was a lot smaller by the time I got there.

By the time I left to go in and do some stuff at work there was a lot less helo action, and I couldn't really see the smoke anymore.

The helicopters seem to freak out the ducks.

Do I need to prepare for this ride ? Is it easy? I dont know if I can climb for more than a couple of miles

I know that was tongue-in-cheek, but no, you don't need to prepare. Anyone who can do Latigo, will have no problem with AC. Nothing steep on AC, just a long, steady climb.

I know that was tongue-in-cheek, but no, you don't need to prepare. Anyone who can do Latigo, will have no problem with AC. Nothing steep on AC, just a long, steady climb.

I actually think Latigo is pretty steep, I've done it about 2-3 times and it hurts everytime.

Is AC about the same grade as Topanga toward PCH? I'm just curious. How does it compare to Baldy?

AC's climbs aren't crazy steep, but there's several long climbs, and the whole ride is at altitude. Sustained climbing (and descending) at altitude pretty much sums up the ride profile. It's really pretty up there, and the company was wonderful.

Thanks John for organizing. I had a blast out there, and I hope it won't be another year before I join your group out there again.Thanks for coming, Jason. I'm happy to go up there again anytime. If you want to get a BF group together, that would be cool. Next time, if it's alittle cooler, we can go to Wrightwood.
Oleg, don't stress out, just come up and enjoy the ride.

I actually think Latigo is pretty steep, I've done it about 2-3 times and it hurts everytime.

Is AC about the same grade as Topanga toward PCH? I'm just curious. How does it compare to Baldy?

If you intrested to learn more about the elevation of Latigo vs. Baldy vs. AC, you can visit my site (http://shprung.com/sfvbc/)and look at the routes name
LAWM-T3L LATIGO / STUNT ROADS (77)
LAWM-T5 MOUNT BALDY VILLAGE
LAWM-T11 ANGELES CREST & SAN GABRIEL CANYON

This LAWM-T11 was a very nice ride. Of course you can do it!

I actually think Latigo is pretty steep, I've done it about 2-3 times and it hurts everytime.

Is AC about the same grade as Topanga toward PCH? I'm just curious. How does it compare to Baldy?

Latigo will always hurt if you ride it fast enough.
ACH is a comfortable 39 x 21 climb.
Few parked cars so you probably won't get doored.
Climbing above 5K feet requires proper attire, wear Lederhosen.

AC's climbs aren't crazy steep, but there's several long climbs, and the whole ride is at altitude. Sustained climbing (and descending) at altitude pretty much sums up the ride profile. It's really pretty up there, and the company was wonderful.

I have to learn to ride in altitude. When is the next ride? :)

Latigo will always hurt if you ride it fast enough.
ACH is a comfortable 39 x 21 climb.
Few parked cars so you probably won't get doored.
Climbing above 5K feet requires proper attire, wear Lederhosen.

And learn to yodel.