Road Fan
08-22-07, 04:02 AM
Good frame aligner in Michigan, Ohio, N. Indiana, or N. Illinois?
Great Lakes - frame alignment
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John Wilke
08-22-07, 07:21 AM
What kind of frame? Make? How is it out of alignment? How bad?
Details man, give us some details ! :)
Details man, give us some details ! :)
Road Fan
08-23-07, 03:42 PM
I thought I send details yesterday, must have been an error!
Ok, the frame is a Mondonico, early '80s, great rider, that is getting upgraded to Campy 10 speed, so it needs the rear end cold-set. It also has the less serious problem that when I install the wheels it's hard to get the rear tire evenly placed between the seatstays. Dropouts are Campy 1010, so it's easy to get the tire aligned between the chainstays. Front wheel has a similar problem wrt the fork. The wheels are well-dished.
I'd like to get it aligned to address those problems, get a good frame angle measurement, and to take advantage of the fact the frame will be stripped down.
I know some Midwest frames experts: Ron Boi near Chicago, Doug Fattic in Niles, MI, Matt Assenmacher in Flint, and ???? Most of these have full backlists of work, and none is truly local to me. So I'm looking for more options.
Road Fan
Ok, the frame is a Mondonico, early '80s, great rider, that is getting upgraded to Campy 10 speed, so it needs the rear end cold-set. It also has the less serious problem that when I install the wheels it's hard to get the rear tire evenly placed between the seatstays. Dropouts are Campy 1010, so it's easy to get the tire aligned between the chainstays. Front wheel has a similar problem wrt the fork. The wheels are well-dished.
I'd like to get it aligned to address those problems, get a good frame angle measurement, and to take advantage of the fact the frame will be stripped down.
I know some Midwest frames experts: Ron Boi near Chicago, Doug Fattic in Niles, MI, Matt Assenmacher in Flint, and ???? Most of these have full backlists of work, and none is truly local to me. So I'm looking for more options.
Road Fan
iab
08-23-07, 04:19 PM
Swedish wood clamp (it's not what you are thinking you sick SOB ;):p )
http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=335763
http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=335763
Road Fan
08-23-07, 09:29 PM
Swedish wood clamp (it's not what you are thinking you sick SOB ;):p )
http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=335763
lol!
http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=335763
lol!
John Wilke
08-24-07, 02:59 PM
I like that wood clamp method. I used a scissors jack from my car and that worked well for me.
How far off is the centering between the seat stays? I'm just trying to figure out how that could be off.
Aren't there any 'Pro' shops in Ann Arbor?
How far off is the centering between the seat stays? I'm just trying to figure out how that could be off.
Aren't there any 'Pro' shops in Ann Arbor?
Road Fan
08-24-07, 08:11 PM
I like that wood clamp method. I used a scissors jack from my car and that worked well for me.
How far off is the centering between the seat stays? I'm just trying to figure out how that could be off.
Aren't there any 'Pro' shops in Ann Arbor?
It's off enough that I get frustrated getting the brakes centered around the rim, looks like up to 2 mm. On a different frame this was resolved by milling one of the dropouts so the axle always sits level, as part of a careful alignment.
Ann Arbor has two "good" shops and a few more focused on the family and university markets, but I wouldn't call either one pro. Both are willing to take on cold-setting, one has an experienced wheel builder, none has an alignment table, and all are telling me to find a framebuilder. Both can fit pretty well. I am getting wheels from one of them, so I have confidence in the wheels man. They also have a frame builder but he hasn't been able to get an alignment table yet. There are two shops I'd call pro in the SE Michigan area, but both are 50 mile or so drives!
Road Fan
How far off is the centering between the seat stays? I'm just trying to figure out how that could be off.
Aren't there any 'Pro' shops in Ann Arbor?
It's off enough that I get frustrated getting the brakes centered around the rim, looks like up to 2 mm. On a different frame this was resolved by milling one of the dropouts so the axle always sits level, as part of a careful alignment.
Ann Arbor has two "good" shops and a few more focused on the family and university markets, but I wouldn't call either one pro. Both are willing to take on cold-setting, one has an experienced wheel builder, none has an alignment table, and all are telling me to find a framebuilder. Both can fit pretty well. I am getting wheels from one of them, so I have confidence in the wheels man. They also have a frame builder but he hasn't been able to get an alignment table yet. There are two shops I'd call pro in the SE Michigan area, but both are 50 mile or so drives!
Road Fan