Commuting - My dream is to bike commute...

... but I recently moved into a setting which makes the thought of bike commuting quite overwhelming. Still, regardless of my mid-age questionable fitness, I have this vision of doing it against all odds, ( hopefully by the time I'm 50.) I really admire bicycle commuters and have *always* wanted to take it seriously, whether for running errands or work. I have too many bikes to choose from (yes, 6) only three of them can handle the new mtn route, so I might as well toss the rest now.

I'm curious, being new here, how many of you have grueling commutes and have had to overcome impossible obstacles > from whom I can draw inspiration? Well, I'd LOVE to hear about your commute then, as I need all the inspiration I can gather. I am really out of the loop, and need to start somewhere, and that somewhere is here.

Thank you.

Welcome 6bikes,

When i first started commuting a couple of years ago, it was only a 5 mile roundtrip. I weighed close to 300 pounds so that distance was plenty. I moved away and my commute turned into a 26 mile roundtrip...I did the 1/2 drive 1/2 bike thing...until i could do the whole thing. I was offered a job that would have made my commute 36 mile roundtrip, so i declined it. Its ironic that now i work at a job that has my roundtrip commute at 48 miles. My coworkers still think i'm crazy, but after about 3 weeks, i've gotten used to it. I'm averaging about 3-4 days a week. I'm still looking for that elusive 5 day straight. :)

I also have a 1000ft elevation gain each way...makes me think twice about eating junk.

There are a number of long distance commuters on this board, I am not one of them. However one thing you can do to work up to a long commute is either drive part way and then ride the rest, or drive to work, ride home in the evening and back in the next day. Either way reduces your mileage for one day and makes for a much shorter ride. Then once you are comfortable with that kind of ride you can work up to a longer ride.

Craig

What "impossible obstacles" someone else has are obviously highly subjective. Mine weren't / aren't particularly huge.

Actually, in my case it was the other way 'round: I was sitting in a crowded bus, stuck in traffic, in a hot summer morning, figuring out how much time I'd spend running, skiing or walking the same distance... none of those were practical, but how about cycling. Zing! A few days later I bought a commuting bike and some panniers. Haven't looked back since.

My biggest obstacle remains the winter weather (or the fact that I need to find a place to dry my riding gear after a wintery commute). I've yet to commute throughout the year, but I'll get there one day.

--J

Welcome 6bikes,

When i first started commuting a couple of years ago, it was only a 5 mile roundtrip. I weighed close to 300 pounds so that distance was plenty. I moved away and my commute turned into a 26 mile roundtrip...I did the 1/2 drive 1/2 bike thing...until i could do the whole thing. I was offered a job that would have made my commute 36 mile roundtrip, so i declined it. Its ironic that now i work at a job that has my roundtrip commute at 48 miles. My coworkers still think i'm crazy, but after about 3 weeks, i've gotten used to it. I'm averaging about 3-4 days a week. I'm still looking for that elusive 5 day straight. :)

I also have a 1000ft elevation gain each way...makes me think twice about eating junk.Wow, I am FULLY impressed ! All that in two years? That's amazing! I totally empathise with the daunting climb, mine is 2100 ft elevation, but only 10 miles ( I swear, it seems the last 3mi must have over 1000) .... then the 1/2 mile steep, rugged dirt road , at the end of the ride... is the "coup de grace".

A little thing I didn't mention in the first post, I use to bike commute from a previous cabin, only a stones throw away (minus the dirt road part,is about it) >> about 10 years ago<< but it was never more than 2 days a week, and really, for only intervals of a month or so, with dry, car-driving spells of double that. So, you see, I *never* really was all the way. I hope to now just once a week even, integrate PartWay commuting, where I can park a few miles down the mtn, and shave off 1000 ft of the climb, and half the time.

There are a number of long distance commuters on this board, I am not one of them. However one thing you can do to work up to a long commute is either drive part way and then ride the rest, or drive to work, ride home in the evening and back in the next day. Either way reduces your mileage for one day and makes for a much shorter ride. Then once you are comfortable with that kind of ride you can work up to a longer ride. Craig, thanks. I've mastered the details of the PartWay commute, but just haven't implemented them yet. I'm all for PartWay, PartTime, whatever it takes to get a person so they can make that first step... um... I mean crank of the pedal. :)

What "impossible obstacles" someone else has are obviously highly subjective. Mine weren't / aren't particularly huge. So true!!! In fact, it probably directly parallels/correlates with one's mindset and fitness level. The commute before was a cake walk, now its a seeming impossibility>> when in fact, the only difference is the dirt road section and 10 years of age.


Actually, in my case it was the other way 'round: I was sitting in a crowded bus, stuck in traffic, in a hot summer morning, figuring out how much time I'd spend running, skiing or walking the same distance... none of those were practical, but how about cycling. Zing! A few days later I bought a commuting bike and some panniers. Haven't looked back since.

My biggest obstacle remains the winter weather (or the fact that I need to find a place to dry my riding gear after a wintery commute). I've yet to commute throughout the year, but I'll get there one day.

--JI admire you bad weather commuters (especially!), but all bicycle commuters, more than anything else there is! A bicycle commuter, navigating his/her way through traffic, in the dark, sunrise, sunset, in the city, on the slick icy rural roads, in the rain, in the snow, in the sweltering heat... just is prettier than anything I can imagine!!! :D

It was raining in dc the other day and I as I went down in the elevator (in rain gear, bike garb, helmet on) a person in the elevator says to me with a shocked look on her face It's raining...what are you going to do? I look back and say, I have a rain jacket on, and if I get wet, it's not like I'm going to melt and die. She had for a brief moment an epiphany-esque look on her face as she perhaps realized that getting wet isn't the end of the world.

I've always wondered at what point in our lives getting wet becomes a disaster. Kids will play in the rain just long as the sun unless they constantly hear Get inside. It's raining! At somepoint we just lose that. We decide we have to run to get out of it, carry umbrellas around in the car, etc.


I have to admit that commuting in the rain and occassional snow are my favorite commuting days of all.

It was raining in dc the other day and I as I went down in the elevator (in rain gear, bike garb, helmet on) a person in the elevator says to me with a shocked look on her face It's raining...what are you going to do? I look back and say, I have a rain jacket on, and if I get wet, it's not like I'm going to melt and die. She had for a brief moment an epiphany-esque look on her face as she perhaps realized that getting wet isn't the end of the world.Heh, heh.... reminds me of Inspector Clouseau in The Pink Panther after stepping out of a car into a big puddle "Hmm... just a little wetness... it will pass". :D


I've always wondered at what point in our lives getting wet becomes a disaster. Kids will play in the rain just long as the sun unless they constantly hear Get inside. It's raining! At somepoint we just lose that. We decide we have to run to get out of it, carry umbrellas around in the car, etc.


I have to admit that commuting in the rain and occassional snow are my favorite commuting days of all. Right, I can imagine the level of accomplishment goes up a few notches. Similarly, I had a friend remind me about umbrellas >one of those moments of epiphany!< .. and now I no longer let rain keep me from hiking with dog in the early morning.

First thing to remember about bike riding...it is always better once you are on the big. Don't psych yourself out. Once you get to riding, you will be surprised at what you can do, and overcome. Plus, it's fun.

Welcome 6bikes,

When i first started commuting a couple of years ago, it was only a 5 mile roundtrip. I weighed close to 300 pounds so that distance was plenty. I moved away and my commute turned into a 26 mile roundtrip...I did the 1/2 drive 1/2 bike thing...until i could do the whole thing. I was offered a job that would have made my commute 36 mile roundtrip, so i declined it. Its ironic that now i work at a job that has my roundtrip commute at 48 miles. My coworkers still think i'm crazy, but after about 3 weeks, i've gotten used to it. I'm averaging about 3-4 days a week. I'm still looking for that elusive 5 day straight. :)

I also have a 1000ft elevation gain each way...makes me think twice about eating junk.

Just curious, do you do this on your Sputnik?

I do the partway thing also. Works pretty well for me. On the bike, I have a 32 mile round trip commute. I have no desire to do the entire thing as I'd end up getting up at 4:00am to commute. Not my idea of fun. Take baby steps and expand as needed. You'll be fine.

First thing to remember about bike riding...it is always better once you are on the big. Don't psych yourself out. Once you get to riding, you will be surprised at what you can do, and overcome. Plus, it's fun.On the big? I suppose you mean, the big ring... as in downhill? I might as well not even *have* a big ring anyway, as I'm coasting most of the way down, and don't even go near it going up. ;) BUt yes, it's all good and fun, once you're fit. Thanks.

I do the partway thing also. Works pretty well for me. On the bike, I have a 32 mile round trip commute. I have no desire to do the entire thing as I'd end up getting up at 4:00am to commute. Not my idea of fun. Take baby steps and expand as needed. You'll be fine.I'm all into BabySteps! Since I'm not working right now, but am considering doing errands on my bike, I'm looking at a minimal of 20mi round trip, plus all the biking around in town. So, I think mastering the PartWay commute is just the way I'm going to have to go. Especially now that autumn & winter are on their way.

My next puzzle is, how to transport stuff around. I'd need to throw the trailer/bike & panniers all in the back of my Rav4, since I'm going to start with the PartWay thing. I don't care for back o' car bike racks > our dirt road would lose anybike that wasn't duct taped to the car... no kidding, and i'm too short for top o' car racks. I'm thinking a Bob Tote type trailer would be great, to squeeze in with the groceries and the bike. Does anybody know of a small trailer that folds up?

Mine isn't as dramatic as some.
Several years ago I hit my all time high weight of 210. My back started hurting, feet, and so on. Not to mention that I have a fairly skinny build. Too much!
My wife was in a car accident that totaled my car. After finding BF I started commuting.
My baby steps:
1) First few months on an ill fitting huffy MTB 4 miles each way. The first day was 40 minutes to make it 4 miles.
2) New hybrid bike and changed to a 15 mile each way bike \ bus commute. So much pain. I think I lost 20 lbs in the first few months.
3) Bike falls apart and I upgrade to a touring road bike... my first road style bike. I slowly start adding miles and occasionally riding the entire commute of 28 each way. I lost 20 more lbs.
4) I added a full carbon racing bike and with a combination of the touring bike I started riding the entire commute 3-5 days a week. No weight loss directly from this.
5) This year I rode my first century, a few group rides, and a few mountain canyon road climbs. Discovered I love climbing! Now I am training for a 125 mile organized ride next year with 12,000 feet of climbing next year. So far I have dropped about 15 more pounds to aid in climbing. I gained a few last winter. :p It is nice to drop weight not because you are heavy but to aid in a training goal.

My attention is turning more towards high intensity rides due to a desire to spend more time with my family. That and different activities to train with. However, I will always commute in some fashion or the other. Maybe not as nutty as this year but it is still a blast.

Can't really say much more than, "get out there and do it!"

It's what I have to tell myself each morning. The only seemingly impossible obstacle I face is getting out of bed... :D

My next puzzle is, how to transport stuff around. I'd need to throw the trailer/bike & panniers all in the back of my Rav4, since I'm going to start with the PartWay thing. I don't care for back o' car bike racks > our dirt road would lose anybike that wasn't duct taped to the car... no kidding, and i'm too short for top o' car racks. I'm thinking a Bob Tote type trailer would be great, to squeeze in with the groceries and the bike. Does anybody know of a small trailer that folds up?

I have a Toyota Matrix and use a receiver hitch type bike rack. Works perfectly. It folds down to allow access to the hatch as well.

I was in the same boat as you for a long time. I live within a reasonable commuting distance (10 miles) but was concerned about the safety issues. There are no bike paths where I live, and my car commute is on busy roads with lots of traffic. Last fall I decided to try bike commuting one day as part of a local campaign to reduce driving -- either through carpooling, transit or bikes. I chose my bike. I took some back roads that kept me away from the busiest roads, but still didn't feel safe enough to make it a regular event.

This past spring I decided to try bike commuting again as part of the Bike to Work week events. This time I did more research on routes and found some roads that avoided 90% of my concerns about the traffic. So basically, out out a 10-mile commute (one-way), about 1 mile is on a road with enough traffic that it makes me nervous. After riding that route for a few days, I decided the stretch of road wasn't as bad as I built it up in my mind. However, I also wear very bright jerseys and have flashing lights in the mornings when daylight is low.

Once I got over that initial hurdle, I've been bike commuting regularly -- usually about 3 days a week. Since April, I've bike commuted more 1,000 miles and saved more than 50 gallons of gas. Lately my biggest problem has been the extreme heat, but that shouldn't last much longer. I usually carpool on the days I drive in a car, so I'm actually driving to work only about 1 day per week.

My total bike commute averages about 22 miles each day. On the days I drive, I bring in clean clothes and other supplies, and bring home my dirty laundry. I am fortunate in that we have a shower in my office building, I don't have be sweaty and smelly all day.

Bottom line, it's worked much better than I imagined, and I'm bike commuting more than I ever expected. I also have more free time after work because I've already finished my exercising for the day when I get home.

... but I recently moved into a setting which makes the thought of bike commuting quite overwhelming. What makes it overwhelming? Distance? Traffic? Weather?


I admire you bad weather commuters (especially!), but all bicycle commuters, more than anything else there is! A bicycle commuter, navigating his/her way through traffic, in the dark, sunrise, sunset, in the city, on the slick icy rural roads, in the rain, in the snow, in the sweltering heat... just is prettier than anything I can imagine!!! :D I know. The romance of it! The only thing that's prettier, to me is a bike messenger, but I'm not willing to do that for romance alone, and the pay isn't much. :)

I started commuting as a university student. I was a student on a fairly isolated campus on the outskirts of the city, and I lived in residence, so for the first year I hardly ever left campus. The campus itself was huge, and there was a lot to do, so I just walked. However, one day my karate instructor and the school had a disagreement, so the karate classes, my favourite extra-curriculur pursuit, moved to a different location, about 7 miles away from campus. There was a bus that would take me pretty much straight there, but it was getting stuck in traffic all the time. I didn't have a car (and it would've been stuck in traffic just the same anyway), so biking was a natural solution, especially since the whole thing was hapenning in the summer.

The challenge, in my case, was traffic. There weren't any alternative routes that did not meander a lot, so I had to travel on a really narrow and aggressive arterial with horrible pavement. I knew very little about biking on roads at the time, so I just took the sidewalk. Almost immediately had a classic sidewalk accident, running into a side of a car pulling out of a driveway (there is a long commercial/industrial section with lots of driveways there). I think eventually I would've migrated to the road for that commute, but I soon stopped going to the karate classes altogether, for unrelated reasons. I also moved off campus the following year, much closer to the city core, so I started commuting to school, 10 miles one way... At first I only rode on the nicest days, but gradually increased the acceptable weather range. I also modified my commuting route to cut out a couple of stressful high-traffic sections and replaced them with much pleasanter streets with virtually no increase in distance and commute time, which gave me further incentive to bike-commute more often. By the time I worked up to commuting every day regardless of the weather, I graduated. :D

Now most of my rides are around the downtown and midtown, though occasionally I travel to the 'burbs and even a bit past, to visit my parents. I ride every day, in rain, snow, slush, thunderstorms and whatever else the weather gods will throw my way. It's a lot of fun. In fact, way too much fun for something that healthy. :)

There are a lot of benefits to commuting by bike that get mentioned on these boards all the time: better fitness, better mood, greater connection with nature, knowing the city so much better, saving money... They all apply to me, but there was another completely unexpected and very welcome benefit: improved spatial thinking and map-reading skills. I used to suffer from a very severe case of topographic cretinism. As a Russian proverb has it, I was the type who'd get lost in a forest of three pines. :D I had very limited map-reading ability and almost zero spatial thinking and memory. However, having to figure out and memorize zig-zagging bike-friendly routes and shortcuts did absolute wonders for me. I couldn't've guessed something like this was possible. I'm almost average in that department now!!! :D :D :D Thank you, nasty cagers, for forcing me off the major road and thus making me smarter! :D

My next puzzle is, how to transport stuff around. I'd need to throw the trailer/bike & panniers all in the back of my Rav4, since I'm going to start with the PartWay thing. I don't care for back o' car bike racks > our dirt road would lose anybike that wasn't duct taped to the car... no kidding, and i'm too short for top o' car racks. I'm thinking a Bob Tote type trailer would be great, to squeeze in with the groceries and the bike. Does anybody know of a small trailer that folds up?

If you're going to be loading equipment in and out of your car, you'll probably be a lot happier with panniers than with a trailer. Even when you're not using the car, a trailer is kind of awkward for everyday use. It limits your maneuverability in traffic a bit, makes it harder to park the bike without blocking pedestrians, and you need to worry about locking the trailer as well as the bike.

I own a trailer, and it's great for large grocery or hardware runs. But for typical work-supply loads of up to forty pounds or so, panniers are a lot more convenient. (And maybe a few bungee cords on hand for objects too large to fit in the panniers...just make sure the bungees can't snap loose and catch in your spokes!)

there was another completely unexpected and very welcome benefit: improved spatial thinking and map-reading skills.

You know, I'd never thought about that, but you have a point. I have a ridiculous number of zigzaggy routes stored in my head, going back to the early 90s. My problem now is I can ride anywhere, but I can't tell anyone how to go on the same route... I go by landmarks (some of which aren't really landmarks, but little things that seem to stick out for me) and rarely remember street names. Also, there's the old problem of giving directions to someone in a car, only to find that half your memorised route involves cutting across a park.

No obstacles for me at all. One day i thought what was the point of sitting for an hour in a bus, then sitting three hours at a lecture and then an hour back home. I hate being inactive and all this sitting seemed pointless and a waste of time. So i bought some bike gloves and rode the 20km to school (had a bike already) This time i was glad i was going to sit for three hours ;)

Hey Chickpea,
I am doing this on my sputnik...i enjoy the fixed gear simplicity plus the great workout, but somedays i jones for some easy gears. :)

6 bikes - my longest commute was 12.5 miles each way total about 35 miles a day round-trip plus other daily trips, but I never considered it grueling even when I had to bicycle in sub-zero temperatures or rain, or snow.

I think most people bicycle commute because they enjoy it and I hope that will be your motivation also.

Riding a bicycle is fun and nice. It is the best way to start and end your work day.

Enjoy. Welcome to the club.

Sorry, not as inspiring as some people's stories, but here's mine:

My commute to my part time job is 9 miles uphill. I have to go on a path, several arterial roads, two smaller roads and to save about 2 miles I pick up my bike and hop a railroad track. And I do this at rush hour, as I work a 5:30-close shift. I've done it in the rain and with a heat index of 124 (although the actual temp was only about 104f)

Mine isn't as dramatic as some....I dunno, sounds pretty dramatic to me ! I think I'm now where you were when you started ; overweight, feet hurting, grumpy. Let me add >>guilty for driving<< to the equation. I basically want to do *now* what I will be proud of when I'm too old to do it.

Can't really say much more than, "get out there and do it!"
It's what I have to tell myself each morning. The only seemingly impossible obstacle I face is getting out of bed... :DI hear you loud and clear! For me, limping from the bed to the coffee pot is just a sad state of living... :D

I have a Toyota Matrix and use a receiver hitch type bike rack. Works perfectly. It folds down to allow access to the hatch as well.Thanx Knobster. I have a spare tire in the back, and I don't care for the idea of those hitch racks being a permanent fixture, because I'm not one to take it off everytime I use it... I've decided even a trailer would be too much hassle, therefore add to the reasons not to ride >> the fewer the moving parts, the less there is to go wrong<<

I think I will go with a front and rear set of meaty panniers. I already have a small rear, which I can put in the front. Those can then just hop into the grocery cart, etc. I will have to do 'stock up' trips, still with the car.

I was in the same boat as you for a long time.<snip> Bottom line, it's worked much better than I imagined, and I'm bike commuting more than I ever expected. I also have more free time after work because I've already finished my exercising for the day when I get home.It usually improves life ten fold, and I know it, yet just starting is the hardest step. Thanks!

Hey Chickpea,
I am doing this on my sputnik...i enjoy the fixed gear simplicity plus the great workout, but somedays i jones for some easy gears. :)

Awesome. I too commute on a fixed and enjoy the simplicity of it. I asked because I recently moved much further from work. My commute used to be 24 miles round trip but now it's about 22 miles each way. Right now I'm taking the train/riding which has cut my ride down to 12 miles round trip. I've been toying with the idea of riding the full distance a few days a week but was wondering how it would be on a fixed. Hearing that others do a long distance on a fixed makes me want to do it more. I'll have to go for it one of these days!

How do you like your sputnik? I'm in the market for a new ride and dig not worrying about gears...

What makes it overwhelming? Distance? Traffic? Weather?Distance +climb =long ride time. Probably over 3 hours in my condition, getting home from town (compared to about 35 minutes going into town). Thus, PartWay is going to be the first baby step, starting from as close into town as possible, getting accustomed to riding just around in town, building confidence, routine, learning how to streamline the whole thing. Then, adding the miles will be the easy part.

As a Russian proverb has it, I was the type who'd get lost in a forest of three pines. :D I had very limited map-reading ability and almost zero spatial thinking and memory. However, having to figure out and memorize zig-zagging bike-friendly routes and shortcuts did absolute wonders for me. I couldn't've guessed something like this was possible. I'm almost average in that department now!!! :D :D :D Thank you, nasty cagers, for forcing me off the major road and thus making me smarter! :DI think that bike commuting is a definite form of meditation, which always sweeps the mind & soul clean. :) Thanks!

If you're going to be loading equipment in and out of your car, you'll probably be a lot happier with panniers than with a trailer. Even when you're not using the car, a trailer is kind of awkward for everyday use. It limits your maneuverability in traffic a bit, makes it harder to park the bike without blocking pedestrians, and you need to worry about locking the trailer as well as the bike.

I own a trailer, and it's great for large grocery or hardware runs. But for typical work-supply loads of up to forty pounds or so, panniers are a lot more convenient. (And maybe a few bungee cords on hand for objects too large to fit in the panniers...just make sure the bungees can't snap loose and catch in your spokes!)I'll take your word for it, since you use both. I've also decided front and rear panniers would be more versatile. Thanks.

ps. never had a bungee get caught in my cogs, but have much more interesting things....:D

No obstacles for me at all. One day i thought what was the point of sitting for an hour in a bus, then sitting three hours at a lecture and then an hour back home. I hate being inactive and all this sitting seemed pointless and a waste of time. So i bought some bike gloves and rode the 20km to school (had a bike already) This time i was glad i was going to sit for three hours ;)I know, it just makes sense to ride.

6 bikes - my longest commute was 12.5 miles each way total about 35 miles a day round-trip plus other daily trips, but I never considered it grueling even when I had to bicycle in sub-zero temperatures or rain, or snow.

I think most people bicycle commute because they enjoy it and I hope that will be your motivation also.

Riding a bicycle is fun and nice. It is the best way to start and end your work day.

Enjoy. Welcome to the club.Thank you, I most surely will pick all of your collective brains, as well as vent my own angst over the adjustments. Just for the record, I *use* to bike commute this mountain, even at night, and remember the calming effect of the croaking toads along the creek, the crickets and owls, while I rode along. Maybe again.

Sorry, not as inspiring as some people's stories, but here's mine:

My commute to my part time job is 9 miles uphill. I have to go on a path, several arterial roads, two smaller roads and to save about 2 miles I pick up my bike and hop a railroad track. And I do this at rush hour, as I work a 5:30-close shift. I've done it in the rain and with a heat index of 124 (although the actual temp was only about 104f) I happen to think those who conquer the routine, and set an example to all those caught in rush hour, while merrilly peddling their way , in all weather >> is completely inconsequencial to the distance traveled. :D

Thanks!

Hey 6bikes, sounds like you got a lot of it figured out already, best of luck to you.

You might check out the "living car Free" forum for advice on errands, trailers, etc. And the occasional nasty spat on who's holier than thou, but it's fun ;)

personally, my bike has been my main transportation since i learned how to ride (age 5). i had no car till i was 19. then it was a truck, kinda necessary for my lawnmowing business. I'd mow 8 lawns, then bike to the pizza buffet. busy fun times.

only time in my life I was chained to car commuting was as an interen for 4-5 months. the route to work was impossible to bike. i made a bad choice of housing location (nice cheap place but no way to bike to work), not knowing how miserable commuting via car was. gained 20lbs in those months, even though i still rode after work. might have something to do with the Cajun food... Never doing that again.

However you do it, work up to your daily commute, and you'll go from what you are to what you want to be. with a commute like that you'll be a monster!

Cheers

Hey 6bikes, sounds like you got a lot of it figured out already, best of luck to you.

You might check out the "living car Free" forum for advice on errands, trailers, etc. And the occasional nasty spat on who's holier than thou, but it's fun ;)I just might, once I bolster myself a bit. As long as I live where I'm living, I could never be car free, so I kinda wonder what's the point of being a hypocrate and posting there/ unless the philosophy there is a tad more lenient than carz R coffins screaming radicals. I get intimidated easily :o


...However you do it, work up to your daily commute, and you'll go from what you are to what you want to be. with a commute like that you'll be a monster! I know... that's the really , really, really fun part imagining. Thanks acroy !

First thing to remember about bike riding...it is always better once you are on the big. Don't psych yourself out. Once you get to riding, you will be surprised at what you can do, and overcome. Plus, it's fun.

Yeah, this (on the "big") threw me too, but I read it as "on the bike," 'cuz that's what did it for me: getting out there and doing it. When I first thought about commuting by bike, it seemed pretty ambitious if not completely impossible; but once I started riding it, I discovered routes that hadn't seemed like an option in the car, and before long I was on a route that's impossible in the car... and it's great. The fact is, I have an easy commute, it's fun 95% of the time, and I wouldn't dream about going back to driving.

Yahoo homepage has a story about a 59 year old who is going to play division III college football. I wouldn't count yourself down and out yet.

I just might, once I bolster myself a bit. As long as I live where I'm living, I could never be car free, so I kinda wonder what's the point of being a hypocrate and posting there/ unless the philosophy there is a tad more lenient than carz R coffins screaming radicals. I get intimidated easily :o



A lot of the folks there are not true car-free but car-lite, as I am (own a car, drive about 1x week). Lots of good utilitarian info in there.
Cheers

Yahoo homepage has a story about a 59 year old who is going to play division III college football. I wouldn't count yourself down and out yet.You're right! Anyway, I remember when I was 30 , I was getting in bad shape again (no exercize), and then I joined a bike club, and trained a lot , and moved up on the mtn, and was in the best shape of my life from 33 to 36. So, I'm not *that* far gone, as that's less than 10 years ago. I could very possibly exceed my expectations of commuting, even then.

A lot of the folks there are not true car-free but car-lite, as I am (own a car, drive about 1x week). Lots of good utilitarian info in there.
CheersIt's not like I'm entirely unsympathetic to the whole rant. I did in fact , live car free a couple of years in my mid twenties. I really am aligned with the goal to be Car Lite... and get involved in some kind of advocacy (usually setting an example by riding is the best way.) Thanks! I'll go there and sniff around....