jpconrad
08-23-07, 10:19 AM
Watch it out there, guys...
Bicyclist Wounded In Pasadena Drive-By Shooting
(CBS) PASADENA, Calif. Police sought the assailant of a 37-year-old bicyclist shot in the stomach by an occupant of a late-model Chevrolet Impala, authorities said.
The shooting occurred about 11:10 p.m. Wednesday on North El Molino Avenue near East Claremont Street, said Pasadena police Lt. Randell Taylor.
The victim was with two friends, both men in their 20's, as he rode northbound on El Molino Avenue, Taylor said.
Just before Claremont Street, a silver Impala pulled up next to them and words were exchanged between the people in the car and the three men on the street. One of the vehicle's occupants pulled out a gun and fired a single shot, striking the bicyclist in the stomach, Taylor said.
The vehicle sped away, he said.
The victim was taken to a hospital in stable condition and was expected to survive, Taylor said, adding that no one else was hurt.
The shooting was not believed to be gang-related, Taylor said.
http://cbs2.com/local/local_story_235040850.html
bigdraft
08-23-07, 10:26 AM
Watch it out there, guys...
The shooting occurred about 11:10 p.m. Wednesday on North El Molino Avenue near East Claremont Street
http://cbs2.com/local/local_story_235040850.html
Thats one area you don't want to find yourself in at that time of night. It's not your Beaver Cleaver sort of neighborhood. In fact it is da hood:)
hope the cyclist is ok
jpconrad
08-23-07, 10:43 AM
It's borderline, but it's not that bad of an area. Go further West, however...
bigdraft
08-23-07, 11:02 AM
When I taught at Pasadena HS, some of my students lived in that area and they had no problem flashing their favorite gang signs. But things have been changing in that area, simply because the value of almost any real estate here has helped shake out some of the riff raff
urbanknight
08-23-07, 12:11 PM
I've only been here for 2 weeks, but it seems that most of the area west of Lake isn't the best part of town. If there aren't any gangs, there is definitely gang mentality. When I was waiting for the gas man to turn on our gas my first day here, I saw a kid about 14 years old tooling around on a bike, stopping at every car door to see if it was unlocked.
But thanks, between this and the mountain lion being back, I might just become paranoid. :D
bigdraft
08-23-07, 12:27 PM
urbanknight, Pasadena has so many positives going for it, sometimes it's easy to overlook the negatives.
Btw, you're right about neighborhoods that lie west of Lake and above Washington, it's best to be heads up and take the necessary precautions so as not to enable those who would like to redistribute you're wealth into their pockets.
merider1
08-23-07, 12:51 PM
You know, I live in Sherman Oaks, and there are cars broken into and smashed into all the time. And I am awakened at least once every three months by helicopters flying around the neighborhood with the spotlight on. Point being, this can happen anywhere!
I feel badly for the cyclist and hope he fully recovers. :(
roadfix
08-23-07, 12:58 PM
And I am awakened at least once every three months by helicopters flying around the neighborhood with the spotlight on.
That's a weekly occurance in mi barrio, usually preceeded by the sound of gunshots.
jpconrad
08-23-07, 01:12 PM
urbanknight, Pasadena has so many positives going for it, sometimes it's easy to overlook the negatives.
Btw, you're right about neighborhoods that lie west of Lake and above Washington, it's best to be heads up and take the necessary precautions so as not to enable those who would like to redistribute you're wealth into their pockets.
I ride through there frequently on Woodbury, but usually I go up Altadena when crossing through. I end up dropping down Lincoln frequently, too, but head west at Woodbury.
I don't like riding by the liquor stores at night, though.
I dare say most of us are not riding in that neighborhood late at night. I ride through that general area most Saturdays and it is ok during the day. Certainly a lot of cyclists passing through on the weekend.
spingineer
08-23-07, 01:20 PM
I used to live in Pasadena, and El Molino and Claremont is not one place I'd like to be, even in bright daylight (especially on El Molino, north of the 210 freeway).
urbanknight
08-23-07, 01:20 PM
That brings up a question. I usually ride Woodbury to get to the Rose Bowl or any points west. It seems pretty safe and well populated. Is that a good choice or am I just being naive? And yes, I do these rides in the light of day.
Oh, and the people on Lake buzz by me closer than any other street around here. Too bad that's how I have to start almost every ride.
spingineer
08-23-07, 01:23 PM
That brings up a question. I usually ride Woodbury to get to the Rose Bowl or any points west. It seems pretty safe and well populated. Is that a good choice or am I just being naive? And yes, I do these rides in the light of day.
Oh, and the people on Lake buzz by me closer than any other street around here. Too bad that's how I have to start almost every ride.
I would say Woodbury is fine, it's just that particular area by El Molino and Claremont is reallly dicey.
jpconrad
08-23-07, 01:27 PM
I would say Woodbury is fine, it's just that particular area by El Molino and Claremont is reallly dicey.
Woodbury by Fair Oaks blows, at least by the liquor store.
El Molino and Claremont isn't that bad.
merider1
08-23-07, 01:31 PM
I rode from Sherman Oaks all the way to Chantry Flats and back last Saturday. I hoped on Huntington (wide, wide road that was great). But on the way back, I couldn't find the side street I had hoped off onto Huntington from, so I inadvertently kept going. I got all the way to Monterey Ave. before I realized what I had done. THAT area seemed very sketchy to me. Where was I?
jpconrad
08-23-07, 01:32 PM
I rode from Sherman Oaks all the way to Chantry Flats and back last Saturday. I hoped on Huntington (wide, wide road that was great). But on the way back, I couldn't find the side street I had hoped off onto Huntington from, so I inadvertently kept going. I got all the way to Monterey Ave. before I realized what I had done. THAT area seemed very sketchy to me. Where was I?
Don't you have a Garmin? :p
merider1
08-23-07, 01:45 PM
Don't you have a Garmin? :p
:mad: Look it, I only use that stupid *$#%@#$ garmin for the basics. I still don't know how to use the GPS function. :cry:
spingineer
08-23-07, 01:57 PM
Woodbury by Fair Oaks blows, at least by the liquor store.
El Molino and Claremont isn't that bad.
I must have a memory leak in my head ... if you see some brain cells on the road, it might be mine. Oh well .. I guess it has been a while ... 9 years ...
spingineer
08-23-07, 02:00 PM
:mad: Look it, I only use that stupid *$#%@#$ garmin for the basics. I still don't know how to use the GPS function. :cry:
You might have been in El Sereno ... you really were off the mark. That area is okay in the daytime, but at night??? At least you made it back okay, that's what's most important.
merider1
08-23-07, 02:08 PM
You know? I do recall seeing a sign that said El Sereno. Is that near downtown? Near Hollywood? I was turned around at that point and just didn't know where I was. :p
Mo'Phat
08-23-07, 02:19 PM
I have to ask...well...I don't have to, but I want to, so I will ask:
Was this a 'cyclist', ie: a roadie, in cycling gear on a ride, or was it just some guy on a bike riding around his neighborhood?
What I'm saying is that it doesn't sound like the shooter was targeting some random cyclist in the middle of a 30 mile workout, but maybe it was a guy who didn't like another guy, and that other guy just happened to be riding a bike.
/just curious...as the 'bike' angle seems to be played up in the news more than it should be...sometimes a guy on a bike is just a guy who doesn't own a car, or is drunk, or has a suspended license, or whatever. But the news always says, "cyclist", which has an entirely different connotation to people that consider themselves cyclists, and not just a guy on a bike.
Turtle1
08-23-07, 02:19 PM
I rode from Sherman Oaks all the way to Chantry Flats and back last Saturday. I hoped on Huntington (wide, wide road that was great). But on the way back, I couldn't find the side street I had hoped off onto Huntington from, so I inadvertently kept going. I got all the way to Monterey Ave. before I realized what I had done. THAT area seemed very sketchy to me. Where was I?
Congrats, you survived riding a bike through my hood.:) Yes, that's El Sereno and it's utter crap. It borders Highland Park and South Pasadena.
I knew if I followed this thread long enough, my hood would be mentioned:D
-Erik
Turtle1
08-23-07, 02:22 PM
I agree Mophat, but the part that leads me to believe that he could be a roadie is that he was with 2 other buddies. When I see dudes on DUI specials, they're usually riding solo. I dunno but there are just some places I won't ride after dark.
-Erik
merider1
08-23-07, 02:24 PM
I agree Mophat, but the part that leads me to believe that he could be a roadie is that he was with 2 other buddies. When I see dudes on DUI specials, they're usually riding solo. I dunno but there are just some places I won't ride after dark.
-Erik
Or, maybe they were Midnight Ridazz on their way to/from a ride, having a good time and some guy in the car with a 'tude and a gun decided to smart lip them - they smart lipped back, and "bang! bang!"
Turtle1
08-23-07, 02:39 PM
You've got a great imagination. I'd prefer to think that it was a group of dudes leaving their mandatory AA meeting that were all hopped up on coffee and cigs and would take no smart lip from the gangsta mobile's occupants. violence ensued.
BTW, when riding through sketchy areas I try to "sprint" to the safe part of town with the mindset that my life depends on it.
I went to high school in Sherman Oaks. Five of my friends had their cars broken into and something stolen on Riverside Dr. and on Huston too.
roadfix
08-23-07, 03:05 PM
^^^ not good...
urbanknight
08-23-07, 03:09 PM
Or, maybe they were Midnight Ridazz on their way to/from a ride, having a good time and some guy in the car with a 'tude and a gun decided to smart lip them - they smart lipped back, and "bang! bang!"
That's probably the main reason I stopped flipping people off when they buzzed by me too close. Eventually, I would have found somebody who was willing to retaliate.
btw it's hopped. 2 Ps. :D
merider1
08-23-07, 03:15 PM
That's probably the main reason I stopped flipping people off when they buzzed by me too close. Eventually, I would have found somebody who was willing to retaliate.
btw it's hopped. 2 Ps. :D
:p Damn school teacher...
bigdraft
08-23-07, 03:24 PM
I ride through there frequently on Woodbury, but usually I go up Altadena when crossing through. I end up dropping down Lincoln frequently, too, but head west at Woodbury.
I don't like riding by the liquor stores at night, though.
I always take the New York/Woodbury route when I ride west. It's the safest IMO.
I like to call it the Morning 40 liquor store, because when I ride by around 8 am they are out there waiting for their first 40ozer. One time, when I was on PAA and their uniforms were bright yellow, I had a flat right in front of it. It was the early evening and it was packed with the usual suspects hanging out. Well it turned out I didn't have a spare and had to call my brother to come pick me up. But I only had a fiver and needed change for the pay phone outside. So when I walked in to get change I got a lot of heavy eyeballing. Oh man, it was like out of some bad Shaft movie LOL. Well it all turned out fine, but I sure felt the vibe in there.
Another not so nice thing that happened to me along that section of Woodbury was when I was riding down the street and all of a sudden hearing the pitter patter of little feet. I look behind me, and right off my rear wheel was a nasty looking pitbull keeping pace. Oh my what a little adrenline can do for your leg speed:D
jpconrad
08-23-07, 03:28 PM
That's the one, I figured if I was going to flat that would be the place.
spingineer
08-23-07, 03:59 PM
You know? I do recall seeing a sign that said El Sereno. Is that near downtown? Near Hollywood? I was turned around at that point and just didn't know where I was. :p
It's closer to downtown than Pasadena is ... :p
Luwin1026
08-23-07, 05:13 PM
When I taught at Pasadena HS, some of my students lived in that area and they had no problem flashing their favorite gang signs.
John Marshall, FTW!!!!! :p
I only went there for 6th grade, and it didn't take too much (well, ok, it was quite a lot for a little cute Asian 6th-grader) before my parents moved us to Covina where I commenced jr. high in relative safety.
Marshall was a 6th-12th school - my sister was a senior when I was a 6th grader, but didn't see each other much at school. I had my gym locker broken into four times, two tennis rackets stolen, cheekbone fractured when a tussle lead me to being slammed against a gym door, girlfriend's letter to me ripped from my hand during lunch before I had a chance to read it, backpack stolen. But I was pencil-fighting champion, and got straight A's!!
Pasadena is a great place to live - just be sure it's south of the 210.
When I taught at Pasadena HS, some of my students lived in that area and they had no problem flashing their favorite gang signs. But things have been changing in that area, simply because the value of almost any real estate here has helped shake out some of the riff raff
you taught HS?
you're mean for a teacher
merider1
08-23-07, 06:14 PM
John Marshall, FTW!!!!! :p
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What does that mean? I know, I'm incredibly nerdy, but I can't figure that one out. :p
merider1
08-23-07, 06:21 PM
you taught HS?
you're mean for a teacher
:rolleyes: No he's not. He's just use to dealing with immaturity appropriately. :D
Luwin1026
08-23-07, 06:22 PM
What does that mean? I know, I'm incredibly nerdy, but I can't figure that one out. :p
I think it means "For the win" - kinda like when you think something is so cool that you think it's a winner.
Grumpy Pig
08-23-07, 06:27 PM
I think it means "For the win" - kinda like when you think something is so cool that you think it's a winner.It doesn't mean F the World? Wish I would have known that before I had it tatooed on my butt.
merider1
08-23-07, 06:57 PM
It doesn't mean F the World? Wish I would have known that before I had it tatooed on my butt.
You have FTW tattooed on your rearend? Man, you must have been an angry child...or really good at sports. :p
BikeWNC
08-23-07, 07:03 PM
What does that mean? I know, I'm incredibly nerdy, but I can't figure that one out. :p
THANK YOU for asking the question I dare not ask. I owe you a big one. :)
merider1
08-23-07, 07:05 PM
THANK YOU for asking the question I dare not ask. I owe you a big one. :)
Never, ever, ever, ever hand a line like that to me...:rolleyes::p
thomson
08-23-07, 07:05 PM
btw, try entering FTW in google...you will be amazed of the power at your fingertips
vertical bob
08-23-07, 07:16 PM
Watch it out there, guys...
Bicyclist Wounded In Pasadena Drive-By Shooting
(CBS) PASADENA, Calif. Police sought the assailant of a 37-year-old bicyclist shot in the stomach by an occupant of a late-model Chevrolet Impala, authorities said.
The shooting occurred about 11:10 p.m. Wednesday on North El Molino Avenue near East Claremont Street, said Pasadena police Lt. Randell Taylor.
The victim was with two friends, both men in their 20's, as he rode northbound on El Molino Avenue, Taylor said.
Just before Claremont Street, a silver Impala pulled up next to them and words were exchanged between the people in the car and the three men on the street. One of the vehicle's occupants pulled out a gun and fired a single shot, striking the bicyclist in the stomach, Taylor said.
The vehicle sped away, he said.
The victim was taken to a hospital in stable condition and was expected to survive, Taylor said, adding that no one else was hurt.
The shooting was not believed to be gang-related, Taylor said.
http://cbs2.com/local/local_story_235040850.htmlA lot of crack dealers make their deliverys on an old bike so their car won't get impounded if they get caught.
you guys didn't know what ftw was?
ftl is = for the lose
ftl is used quite often.
jeez noobs
BikeWNC
08-23-07, 07:25 PM
Never, ever, ever, ever hand a line like that to me...:rolleyes::p
Now who said anything about handing you a line? ;) :p
merider1
08-23-07, 07:29 PM
jeez noobs
Are we noobs or n00bs? Get it straight, Russian. Your English not so good. :p
Are we noobs or n00bs? Get it straight, Russian. Your English not so good. :p
why so mrean!!
I'm going to call the cops and tell them to arrest you for being mean n00blik.
PS: Mary you are suppose to always be on my side, till death do us PART!!! WHATS UP WITH THAT?!?!?!?
merider1
08-23-07, 07:40 PM
why so mrean!!
I'm going to call the cops and tell them to arrest you for being mean n00blik.
Is that the part of the female's anatomy that you can't pronounce? It sounds like nob-lick to me. And if you call the "cops," ask them to send one that dances real nice. :D
merider1
08-23-07, 07:40 PM
PS: Mary you are suppose to always be on my side, till death do us PART!!! WHATS UP WITH THAT?!?!?!?
No, that's Brandi, silly. :rolleyes:
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