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TruF
08-23-07, 09:14 PM
So Steve and I JUST bought our first bikes, Trek 7.2 FX hybrids. We haven't even taken them in for their free 30-day check. Bought them for easy rides around town. But that got boring really fast, so we went on a real road trip last Sunday: Santa Rosa to Sebastopol to Graton (don't have a bike computer, but I'm thinking about 6-7 miles each way. A good long ride for newbies!). We saw all kinds of cyclists, and I realized that I am already checking out other people's bikes. The ones that kept passing us. Road bikes.

Now I know better than to go out and buy another new bike anytime soon, but is it normal to start lusting after a second bike before the honeymoon with the first one is over? I'm already saving my pennies so that I can buy a road bike next spring. I figure I'll know if cycling is a passing fancy by then. Is something wrong with me? What is this madness?


tsl
08-23-07, 09:26 PM
The purpose of a first bike is to teach you what you want in a second bike. My first bike was a hybrid. It taught me that I really wanted a road bike.

Nine months later, I bought a road bike. My first road bike taught me what I really want in a road bike. Nine months later (that's next month) I'll bring home my second road bike.

I'm already thinking about the next one...

Tom Bombadil
08-23-07, 10:01 PM
A 7.2 FX is a good choice for someone starting out. Reasonable price, fairly easy to resell for a small loss if you don't get into cycling, or if you decide to ride a lot and want to move up.

A FX-series bike can be a long-term solution for some, for others they are a step on the path to a more traditional road bike.

As to lusting after a bike while still in the honeymoon period with a new bike, well, some of us lust for the "next+1" bike before we even get our "next" bike.


Wildwood
08-23-07, 10:25 PM
Is something wrong with me? What is this madness?

Not a newbie and not actively looking for a new bike, but the garage contains 4 road bikes (2 oldies), MTB, tandem and cruiser. 11 bikes for the whole family. My son and I share the same size so they get a fair number of miles.

So to answer your question there is nothing wrong with you at all, except your lack of multiple bikes.

WillisB
08-24-07, 04:28 AM
Hello, my name is WillisB. I am a bikeaholic.

I have 3 mountain bikes, a tandem, and a road bike in my garage. I am thinking about the bike I want next. Or perhaps a new wheel set, or maybe a Brooks saddle, or ...

This is an illness. we all need to see a shrink and give him (or her) our money that we would otherwise spend on bikes. :D

Btw, getting a road bike now will only result in all those roadies passing you -- passing you. Build up your engine through lots of riding. Then get the lightest most expensive road bike you can't afford. Then with the strong engine and light bike, you too can make the newbies wish for a better bike! :D

ang1sgt
08-24-07, 05:13 AM
It never stops! Of course right now, my grown daughters are begging me to get them bikes. Seems like they all get stored at my house anyway because I have the tools and the bike racks to haul em. This is also one of the reasons I was glad my buddy asked me to come back to work at a shop. Makes it much easier to find a "DEAL" on a new or even a used bike.

Right now we are starting to get all the new info on next years stuff, and I have my eye on a couple of bikes. My weight loss is going well and I have my eye on a Road Bike or two. Of course then Trek comes out with a new SOHO 4.0 bike that really looks neat!

That reminds me....I need more hooks for the garage!

Chris

HopedaleHills
08-24-07, 06:42 AM
After riding a Trek 800 Antelope off and on for years I got more serious about riding last spring and bought a Trek 1200c road bike. A pretty decent $800 bike. I put about 1000 miles on it last year. As I began to ride again this spring I all of a sudden noticed that the 1200c was no longer fast enough, and just didn't feel as good as I thought a bike should. So I started looking for better road bike. After alot of test rides I settled on a BMC Streefire. A really nice Swiss made $1800 bike. It fits like a glove and I have ridden farther, faster, more than I have ever ridden before. This bike an I feel like one. When the time is right your perfect bike will find you.

BTW, I also bought a MTB for fall dirt riding.

BSLeVan
08-24-07, 06:48 AM
When it comes to bikes I'm a confirmed bigamist. Welcome to the wonderful world of cycling. There was a scene in the movie Little Miss Sunshine where Alan Arkin (playing the grandfather) was instructing his grandson to have as many "relationships" as possible (in a somewhat direct/crude way). To paraphrase the line, "Ride bikes. Ride as many bikes as you can."

George
08-24-07, 07:08 AM
I had started with the Trek 7300 and six bikes later and I'm still looking. It goes on and on and on, have fun.

Beverly
08-24-07, 07:14 AM
Guess you haven't heard that you must own more than one bike:D

I also started with a hybrid style bike and graduated to the road bikes. I just bought a new one last year but I'm currently lusting after a new Madone.

solveg
08-24-07, 07:50 AM
For me, I'm just fascinated with how differently each bike rides. Having been a one-bike person all my life, I'm suddenly aware of how gloriously different each bike is. There are things I like about each one I have (I'm up to 4 that I ride now) and I want to try more! And I've only tried road and touring bikes so far! Still have mountain, comfort, hybrid, English 3 speeds, racing, etc!

Digital Gee
08-24-07, 09:26 AM
Ah yes, I can easily remember getting that first bike and getting started. For me it was a Trek 3900 mountain bike, which I rode on the road. Then it was slick tires. Then it was a craigslist 1980's Univega which I had converted to a single speed, but which was just that much too big for me. (Sold it.) Then it was a pair of craigslist beach cruisers so my daughter and I could ride together at about the same speed. Then it was a craiglist 1990 or so Trek 1500, a road bike, which I put some time into trying to make fit but it was just that much too small for me. Last bike I bought was the Ruby Roubaix, which I bought brand new, and it's a really nice road bike. So far, I'm completely satisfied with this bike. I also sold off the mountain bike, so I'm down to four.

This took about two years.

Have fun, good luck, and welcome!

Tom Bombadil
08-24-07, 09:43 AM
Ah yes, I can easily remember getting that first bike and getting started. For me it was a Trek 3900 mountain bike, which I rode on the road. Then it was slick tires. Then it was a craigslist 1980's Univega which I had converted to a single speed, but which was just that much too big for me. (Sold it.) Then it was a pair of craigslist beach cruisers so my daughter and I could ride together at about the same speed. Then it was a craiglist 1990 or so Trek 1500, a road bike, which I put some time into trying to make fit but it was just that much too small for me. Last bike I bought was the Ruby Roubaix, which I bought brand new, and it's a really nice road bike. So far, I'm completely satisfied with this bike. I also sold off the mountain bike, so I'm down to four.


Geez, all of that text and he never got around to mentioning his beloved Giant Cypress SX. Which now lies forlorn and forgotten in some dark corner, gathering dust.

bobby c
08-24-07, 10:52 AM
I've been into various hobbies over the years and one of the things I end up doing is buying something that is more than I need based on my ability to use or enjoy it. I like nice things and would rather buy something like a Bosch tool than something from B&D. Sometimes that leads to overkill (like my Goldmund CD player) but more often than not I grow into the item and don't have a need for the next upgrade for awhile. This is how I feel with my bike.

After years on a simple 10 speed, I borrowed a friends Colnago steel bike - what a difference. It didn't quite fit so I had to get something new. To some I overspent on a carbon bike (a 2005 Giant TCR), but I got it at a good price and I love it. The bike was certainly way better than me for the first year or so, but as I've gotten more miles in, I've continued to love it and don't feel the great desire to replace it. Sure, I lust after something like the Colnago C50 or a Pinarello, but this bike will take me where I want to go for many years. I've done upgrades, probably next year I'll put a compact crankset on it, but the frame stays.

So what I'm suggesting is think carefully about your next purchase. Can you see yourself riding longer distances several times a month or doing centuries on occasion? Renting or borrowing a higher end rig may make you realize that you want more of a performance bike or maybe not. Before riding my friends Colnago, I would have thought that buying a true road bike but built with comfort in mind would be the way to go. But for me, something a little more sporty was my choice and I'm glad I went that way. That with the comfort of carbon is something I never regretted.

I'm not saying this should be your choice, just that you might be surprised where biking will take you. With that in mind, I'd make sure I'd get the best frame I could for the money and not worry as much about the components - those can be upgraded over time as you see fit (and budget allows). Sometimes you best value comes about this time of the year - retailers are getting new 2008 stock and want to move older 2007 (and before) bikes. Just last night I rode with a friend on his inaugural ride on his brand new 2005 Madone 5.2 rig. Fantastic bike (Lance won more than one TdF on it) but it was sitting in the shop for a couple of years and was priced to move. Another option is to buy a good bike used from a person who has upgradeitis, there are deals to be had (make sure you have a shop check it out in case it has been abused).

My .03 cents....

Digital Gee
08-24-07, 12:36 PM
Geez, all of that text and he never got around to mentioning his beloved Giant Cypress SX. Which now lies forlorn and forgotten in some dark corner, gathering dust.

Ooops! How soon I forgot!!! :D

SaiKaiTai
08-24-07, 12:44 PM
My two are all I need. One for on the road and one I can take off.
If I get another, it'll be a replacement not an addition.

WillisB
08-24-07, 12:46 PM
My two are all I need. One for on the road and one I can take off.
If I get another, it'll be a replacement not an addition.

We will remember that statement when the time comes!

Bill Kapaun
08-24-07, 01:01 PM
Lusting is normal!
My budget doesn't allow for a new bike, but I always have my eye on bikes that are similar to mine.
I look for "low budget" things, ideas etc. that I may be able to apply to my bike to make my ride better/easier.

stapfam
08-24-07, 01:22 PM
There is a difference between having bikes for different uses and just having bikes. For years I rode Offroad so Mountain bikes were my choice. It took a few years to get a decent bike but then it was upgrades for those bikes- Those Bikes?- I always had 2. Had to have a spare. Then I got a Tandem- Full offroad of course but that took a lot of Upgrades to get right and after paying to get that thing Right- I could not afford a spare.
Then Road biking last year- Completely new to me and I did not know what to expect. Found a few faults got them sorted- or upgraded and then decided that I now knew what I wanted in a road bike. I did- and just have to learn how to ride with my head between my knees and to stopp annoying the other roadies by smiling all the time.

You have taken the first step by getting a bike- Any bike. Now you have to decide what type of bike you should have got but take a bit of time before emptying the wallet at your local shop. You have to get "Bike" fitness behind you-You haven't found the joys of Pie halfway through a 30 mile ride and you haven't said a thing yet about "What Saddle should I get".

Dream about the next bike- but do it sensibly. Some shops have test bikes for you to try. Some shops even let you take a white bike out and let it hypnotise you into buying it. Only problem I can see- Get some riding in before you get the next bike.

Digital Gee
08-24-07, 01:51 PM
Some shops even let you take a white bike out and let it hypnotise you into buying it.

Take my advice: if you want to preserve your wallet, you'll stay AWAY from these for a while! :D

BluesDawg
08-24-07, 01:55 PM
My two are all I need. One for on the road and one I can take off.
If I get another, it'll be a replacement not an addition.

:lol::roflmao::lol::roflmao::lol: Yeah, right! :D

tlc20010
08-24-07, 03:59 PM
My two are all I need. One for on the road and one I can take off.
If I get another, it'll be a replacement not an addition.

Don't worry SKT, we believe you :rolleyes:

SaiKaiTai
08-24-07, 04:07 PM
No seriously, a roadie and an off-roadie. What else do I need?
I've already been down this road with guitars.
Hell, I'm still walkin' that road and only the threat of divorce keeps me in line.
And still, all the while, I'm scheming... scheming


I have to admit the Madone is a beauty and there are some Cannondales that turn my head.
I've seen some beautiful Scotts

But I love my black & blue collection and not only do they get me where I want to go but they are still better bikes than I am a rider.

momof4greatkids
08-24-07, 05:23 PM
Hello, my name is WillisB. I am a bikeaholic.

Build up your engine through lots of riding. Then get the lightest most expensive road bike you can't afford. Then with the strong engine and light bike, you too can make the newbies wish for a better bike! :D

Hey Brother Willis, you are on the money!

TruF, The 7.2 is a fantastic choice for getting into cycling. Not a ton of money, yet enough of a bike to let you know if you really like this thing (and it sounds like you do)

You are where I was one year ago, almost to the day. I bought a 7.5, and before you know it, I was piling up the miles and daydreaming about my next bike. And like Willis my fellow co-dependant, I got the best bike I couldn't afford.

And the really sick thing is, I am already thinking I would like to get a sturdy road-style bike for winter in addition to my newest bike, something like a Bianchi Volpe or a Rivendell Bleriot.

And to show you how really twisted my mind has become, I've almost convinced myself that yes, I could be happy with just one more bike........but I'm only kidding myself.

The madness never stops.

It's great fun, happy pedaling :lol::lol::lol:

TruF
08-24-07, 08:02 PM
Thanks, everyone! Although I haven't mentioned it, I HAVE been reading the forum about handlebars and saddles. (Especially George and his trekking bars; great pics, George!) My idea is to make this bike as comfortable as possible for riding around town. Maybe some bar ends to give my hands a couple positions. Maybe a new saddle. Get some miles under my belt. If the bike madness persists until my birthday next May, I'll reward myself with a bike fitting. Then start shopping.

card
08-24-07, 08:13 PM
Now I know better than to go out and buy another new bike anytime soon, but is it normal to start lusting after a second bike before the honeymoon with the first one is over?

I brought home a new bike 2 days ago and I've been biking for around 15 years and I have started thinking about a lighter version of the bike I bought 2 days ago.:o

BluesDawg
08-24-07, 08:57 PM
+1 on buying the best bike you can afford, once you have ridden enough to have a good idea what kind of bike you want. After a year of riding my first road bike as an adult, I bought a top of the line bike from a respected brand, a 1992 Bridgestone RB-1. I was thinking I had lost my mind to spend nearly $1000 on a new bicycle. But 15 years later I am still riding that bike. After contemplating replacing it, I am in the process of upgrading the wheels and components (for the second time) so that I can continue to enjoy the bike for more years to come. I have several other bikes and I keep finding ways to justify needing another one for all sorts of different purposes, but I just can't bring myself to replace Ribby as my main road bike.

card
08-24-07, 09:01 PM
but I just can't bring myself to replace Ribby as my main road bike.

I wish I still had my old Paramount------I would probably be in the same boat as you; however, the divorce changed the life style and finances for several months.

stonecrd
08-25-07, 06:19 AM
Well I must be a little different because I see no need to get another bike. I started out on a Trek Pilot 2.1 since I was not sure how long term road riding would be for me. After 5500 miles the first year I figured I was going to stick with it and I started doing research for my next and final bike. After another year I decided on the Scott CR1 and I am completely happy with it and have no desire to get a new bike. What would the upgrade be, the frame weighs 2.2lbs so I am not going to find a much lighter or stiffer frame and the components are Ultegra and I see no reason to move to Dura Ace. We will see in a few years if I change my tune but for now I have one primary bike that I ride 99% of the time.

TruF
08-25-07, 12:08 PM
Thanks for all the suggestions to keep riding, build up my strength, and then: "Buy the best bike you can afford." You are a bunch of enablers in the very best sense of the word. Steve and I just got back from a round-about ride to the store and back (about 10 miles). Now I need a cyclo-computer to keep track of my miles. And a bike rack for my SUV so we can ride from spots other than home. And panniers for putting stuff. And...

Motorad
08-25-07, 01:08 PM
I cut my adult teeth on an early 90's Trek 730. I also broke a big toe and I believe a finger on a Trek 730. Trek hybrids are great rides, and helps you to learn what you want in either more serious mountain bikes or a dedicated road bike. Good luck in your bike hunt!
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/189/511579094_168e11bca1.jpg?v=0

stapfam
08-25-07, 02:05 PM
Thanks for all the suggestions to keep riding, build up my strength, and then: "Buy the best bike you can afford." You are a bunch of enablers in the very best sense of the word. Steve and I just got back from a round-about ride to the store and back (about 10 miles). Now I need a cyclo-computer to keep track of my miles. And a bike rack for my SUV so we can ride from spots other than home. And panniers for putting stuff. And...


It's started

TrackGuy
08-25-07, 02:16 PM
Isn't this forum for people who own 50+ bikes?

We're always thinking about new bikes or upgrades, just went to pickup my '86 Ross from LBS, and ordered a Brooks saddle on the way out. So, I have my Grocery Getter, my Commuter, my Club Rider, a 1976 Raleigh (being upgraded) and my Beater which is in the process of being rebuilt from scratch. There's always something to think about. I have some motorcyclist friends, they're even worse.

guybierhaus
08-25-07, 03:06 PM
I started with the Trek 7.2FX myself, (actually in model year 2005 it was a 7200FX), and only went about 5 months before I wanted to try a road bike. I kind of discovered I preferred riding on a paved road, so naturally wanted to actually experience just what the road bike had over the hybrid. At any rate, 3 years later and I prefer the 20 lb road bike and the 30 pound 7.2FX was just gathering dust. Then the heat way hit and I decided to retreat to the trails again since that's where the shade is. I've upgraded the 7.2FX with a carbon fork, seat post, smaller saddle, fixed stem and lastly some road bike rims with 32mm tyres. The end result is a 5 pound lighter bike trail bike. What a difference 5 pounds makes. (Although I also lost at least 10 since last ride). So bottom line enjoy the stock 7.2FX, but when you want more, there is plenty to be done to upgrade the bike. Although I wouldn't recommend trying to actually change it into a road bar with drop bars. Flat bar road bike maybe.