"The 33"-Road Bike Racing - Take all money and common sense PLEASE

Shimano Dura Ace rear der. circa 2007 - 180 grams / $119.99 @Performance
http://www.performancebike.com/product_images/250/50-2215-NCL-SIDE.jpg

Lightweight full carbon rear der. - 120 grams. / $1000.00 @ Lightweight?

http://files.myopera.com/badmadcyclist/albums/119928/lightwrd.jpg

Thats a 60 gram difference = $881.00 difference

881/60= $14.68 a friggin gram.

Complete with Lightweight sticker to reinforce all the money you wasted.

its a show piece, your average person isnt buying that to save a few grams.

But it will last LONGER than Dura Ace, right?



Oh wait.... nevermind

$14.68 a friggin gram.

[Enter drug joke here]:rolleyes:

[Enter drug joke here]:rolleyes:

I've copped sensimilia for less per/g when I was I punk 8th grader in the eighties:D

But it will last LONGER than Dura Ace, right?



Oh wait.... nevermind

Yep, you aren't actually supposed to ride with it.

That would get it dirty.

Yep, you aren't actually supposed to ride with it.

That would get it dirty.

...and the sticker would fall off.

...and the sticker would fall off.

That would save even more weight.

This is even stupider than the Drillium craze of the 70s.

Just combine those with your $1200 Clavicula cranks

http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x220/esammuli/clavicula.jpg

and $1300 AX Lightness brakes
http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x220/esammuli/AX_perseus.jpg

And you've got the worlds most idiotic bike!

This is even stupider than the Drillium craze of the 70s.

Incorrect. I was there, and NOTHING can really top that for stupidity. The Lightweight components won't snap apart because there are too many holes in them.

...and the sticker would fall off.

I couldn't bear losing a $50 dollar sticker :D

Incorrect. I was there, and NOTHING can really top that for stupidity. The Lightweight components won't snap apart because there are too many holes in them.

They snap apart by design, and cost 100 times as much, yep we are definitly getting smarter :rolleyes:

What's wrong with drug jokes? Anyone who thinks drugs aren't a laughing matter hasn't heard Denis Leary's routines on the topic. Never were truer words spoken.

Very, very, very few things aren't laughing matters. Just ask botto.

Incorrect. I was there, and NOTHING can really top that for stupidity. The Lightweight components won't snap apart because there are too many holes in them.

Onlookers must have laughed a lot then.

I can only imagine the bemused locals kicking back on their porches watching the local criterium and placing beer wagers on the collapse of various bikes.

"Cletus, I got a sixer-o-Coors on that yella Eyetalian Beeyonchee there with all the holes in it."

To finance it you can sell a kidney... and save another 150g!

And you've got the worlds most idiotic bike!

hahaha, and the most idiotic bike rider too

How do you calculate how much faster you can go for each gram less that you weigh? I ask because for us it'd do nothing. But if you were riding 2100 miles and it made a 3 minute difference, that could be worth $800+ to a pro. So...how do you calculate it?

The funny thing is to the non-cyclist we all look idiotic on how we spend money.

I guess the line where prices are outrageous for certain componants is a personal one.

How do you calculate how much faster you can go for each gram less that you weigh? I ask because for us it'd do nothing. But if you were riding 2100 miles and it made a 3 minute difference, that could be worth $800+ to a pro. So...how do you calculate it?

i did all of the math last year after a hillclimb race (16 mile climb) and it was around 1 min per lb (of course thats the first lb, every pound is worth less and less and gets more and more expensive)

so thats .132 seconds per gram in that situation.

I'll just empty my water bottle by 10%

How do you calculate how much faster you can go for each gram less that you weigh? I ask because for us it'd do nothing. But if you were riding 2100 miles and it made a 3 minute difference, that could be worth $800+ to a pro. So...how do you calculate it?

It would be a moot point. A pro would never ride it. Those guys count on their gear to not fail. This piece is OCP all the way.

I'm buying 2 of them today! One, so I can lighten my 21 lb bike by 60 grams, and the other I'll keep in my saddle bag just in case I need it. Might have to buy one more and wear it around my neck on a gold chain.

Shayne

...and the sticker would fall off.

I was going to say that it looks like a cheap applique courtesy of your next-door neighbor's inkjet printer and budget clear Avery labels from Office Depot or something... Doesn't look classy to the tune of $1K...

Incorrect. I was there, and NOTHING can really top that for stupidity. The Lightweight components won't snap apart because there are too many holes in them.

What's the "drillium craze" you speak of? Is it just what it sounds like: people drilling holes in components to shave weight? :eek:

My luck a dog would jump out and crash me the day after I bought that derailleur. :(

Supposedly thats just the prototype version. The retail version will have the logo painted on...probably for another $300.

The funny thing is to the non-cyclist we all look idiotic on how we spend money.
Hey to most non-cyclists we just LOOK idiotic! ;)

Hey to most non-cyclists we just LOOK idiotic! ;)

What?!? I was doing this to look cool! Dude, you've just totally hurt my feelings and stolen all motivation to continue riding. Thanks for nothing.

;)

What's the "drillium craze" you speak of? Is it just what it sounds like: people drilling holes in components to shave weight? :eek:

Exactly. Note all the holes in the chainrings in the pic of Eddy.

http://imagesource.allposters.com/images/pic/IMA/P336~Tour-de-France-Incomparable-Eddy-Merckx-Posters.jpg

I see. Is this really any different than drilled out chainrings (scroll to bottom of page)? (http://www.cyclingnews.com/tech.php?id=tech/2007/news/08-28)

What the drilling more widespread to other components and even frames, or just mainly chainrings?

What's the "drillium craze" you speak of? Is it just what it sounds like: people drilling holes in components to shave weight? :eek:

More here.

http://www.velo-retro.com/peterjohnson.html

I can't find it now, but I remember seeing a photo on Classic Rendezvous of a Campy Super Record crankset that looked like an Irish lace doily.

Zeus 2000 components from Spain circa 1981 (Campy Record knockoffs). Chain rings came drilled out as did the rear der and the brake levers. Worked flawlessly for me from 1981 - 1991. I would have kept them for my (then) new Basso Loto but everything on the Zeus had French threading.

http://www.classicrendezvous.com/Spain/Zeus/zeus_crit2000_cranks.htm

http://http://www.classicrendezvous.com/Spain/Zeus/zeus_crit2000_cranks.htm (http://www.classicrendezvous.com/Spain/Zeus/zeus_crit2000_cranks.htm)

And now we know why i'm not a big fan of the WW site...

Zeus 2000 components from Spain circa 1981 (Campy Record knockoffs). Chain rings came drilled out as did the rear der and the brake levers. Worked flawlessly for me from 1981 - 1991. I would have kept them for my (then) new Basso Loto but everything on the Zeus had French threading.

http://www.classicrendezvous.com/Spain/Zeus/zeus_crit2000_cranks.htm

http://http://www.classicrendezvous.com/Spain/Zeus/zeus_crit2000_cranks.htm (http://www.classicrendezvous.com/Spain/Zeus/zeus_crit2000_cranks.htm)

That's the one!

And now we know why i'm not a big fan of the WW site...
Different things please different people. That's why there are Kia dealerships and Ferrari dealerships. :D

Different things please different people. That's why there are Kia dealerships and Ferrari dealerships. :D

Yeah, weight means way less than aerodynamics, hence why I'm a fan of BTR. I don't get why people will spend absurd amounts of money to get their bikes ridiculously light, when you can spend 1/10 as much, make more bike more aero, and go way faster than the lightweight guy.

/rant off.

That's the one!
My gruppo was the black one except for some reason it came with gold anodized hubs. Had it mounted on a blue Alan frame. Light but VERY whippy. Guys I rode with in Spain really liked those Alan's and the Zeus stuff (of course it was WAY cheaper than Campy as that was before Spain joined the {then** Common Market - stuff made in Spain was really inexpensive compared to anything imported).

Yeah, weight means way less than aerodynamics, hence why I'm a fan of BTR. I don't get why people will spend absurd amounts of money to get their bikes ridiculously light, when you can spend 1/10 as much, make more bike more aero, and go way faster than the lightweight guy.

/rant off.
Indeed that is true. But I don't think speed is foremost in the minds of most WW posters. Better yet for some us is to lose body fat or simply improve our position on the bike :D

Different things please different people. That's why there are Kia dealerships and Ferrari dealerships. :D

This would make sense if Ferraris didn't actually go faster than Kias. :D

My gruppo was the black one except for some reason it came with gold anodized hubs. Had it mounted on a blue Alan frame. Light but VERY whippy. Guys I rode with in Spain really liked those Alan's and the Zeus stuff (of course it was WAY cheaper than Campy as that was before Spain joined the {then** Common Market - stuff made in Spain was really inexpensive compared to anything imported).

I'm curious whether there was any flex in the crankset. Any rubbing on the FD when sprinting or climbing, ?por ejemplo?

This is even stupider than the Drillium craze of the 70s.

It is made of Drillium, look at the jockey wheels.

Yeah, weight means way less than aerodynamics, hence why I'm a fan of BTR. I don't get why people will spend absurd amounts of money to get their bikes ridiculously light, when you can spend 1/10 as much, make more bike more aero, and go way faster than the lightweight guy.

/rant off.

Very good point but not so true for mountain climbers.

Very good point but not so true for mountain climbers.

Oh?

http://www.cervelo.com/slideshow.aspx?id=3

I can find more :p

Sorry, wrong one...

Try this:

http://www.cervelo.com/slideshow.aspx?id=4

Sorry, wrong one...

Try this:

http://www.cervelo.com/slideshow.aspx?id=4

If we're talking generally about preposterous components and bike builds, the difference between a stock Cervelo Soloist Carbon and a weight weenied 9.5 pounder is around 55%, not the .26% Cervelo example.

Considering the market for these overpriced weight weenie items is comprised of non- or more average racers who have lots of money, aren't burdened by weight regulations and put out good but non national class wattage, the "tipping point" would be really low (in percent grade, probably under 3%).

I guess, but if you're not racing it, who really cares?

I guess, but if you're not racing it, who really cares?

DUH: All the less cool kids in the neighborhood.

http://www.vh1.com/sitewide/flipbooks/img/movies/production_stills/h/hot_rod/hot_rod00.jpg

Hahaha... nice.