Advocacy & Safety - Cellphone+bike=Stupidity!

Ok, so, I'm starting to see an alarming trend develop here, especially with our spoiled and uneducated youth: self-important nitwits on cellphones whilst riding bikes against traffic on the sidewalk, out in the middle of the wrong side of the street, or even in areas where small children are playing.

What sort of recourse do I have with this? Can I just drag the little munchkin back to his idiot parents and scream at them until I'm blue in the face? Or do I snipe the little git and grab the phone, promising to give it back IF, and ONLY IF, they promise to come to a complete stop, dismount and then proceed to chat with their flavour of the month floozy?

This is disgusting, and a sign that the American culture is even more poisoned than I originally thought...maybe I should take the job offer in Kenya...

I'd ignore them. Terrible habit. Since I crashed cornering while chatting last year I've taken to only using cell phones on straight roads. I'll even stop sometimes.

::bares teeth:: GRRRRRRR!!!!

At least someone they know will get to hear their last words.

Ok, so, I'm starting to see an alarming trend develop here, especially with our spoiled and uneducated youth: self-important nitwits on cellphones whilst riding bikes against traffic on the sidewalk, out in the middle of the wrong side of the street, or even in areas where small children are playing.

What sort of recourse do I have with this? Can I just drag the little munchkin back to his idiot parents and scream at them until I'm blue in the face? Or do I snipe the little git and grab the phone, promising to give it back IF, and ONLY IF, they promise to come to a complete stop, dismount and then proceed to chat with their flavour of the month floozy?

This is disgusting, and a sign that the American culture is even more poisoned than I originally thought...maybe I should take the job offer in Kenya...


You missed the "I could mind my own business, just relax a bit and get over it" option.

Relax, let them figure out on their own why cell phone use is as bad as drunk driving.

Some people are just dense. You can tell them it's hot all day long, but you have to let them burn their hands to figure it out.

Or do I snipe the little git and grab the phone, promising to give it back IF, and ONLY IF, they promise to come to a complete stop, dismount and then proceed to chat with their flavour of the month floozy?

Only if you like waking up face down in a ditch on the other side of town, I really don't appreciate people trying to govern over me who have no right to do so. Plus if my phone gets sniped, first thought is it's getting stolen, first reaction is to jump and get it back.

I'll damn well ride my bike while talking on the phone if I so choose, and I do it in the proper lane. You ever notice how most of the kids on their phones on bikes are going ~9km/hr? I'm sure they can stop, we aren't all dumb.

And you're just jealous you don't get a fresh piece of ass every month.

Ok, so, I'm starting to see an alarming trend develop here, especially with our spoiled and uneducated youth: self-important nitwits on cellphones whilst riding bikes against traffic on the sidewalk, out in the middle of the wrong side of the street, or even in areas where small children are playing.

What sort of recourse do I have with this? Can I just drag the little munchkin back to his idiot parents and scream at them until I'm blue in the face? Or do I snipe the little git and grab the phone, promising to give it back IF, and ONLY IF, they promise to come to a complete stop, dismount and then proceed to chat with their flavour of the month floozy?

This is disgusting, and a sign that the American culture is even more poisoned than I originally thought...maybe I should take the job offer in Kenya...
Take the job in Kenya. I'm sure the locals there will appreciate you and your recourses.

Only if you like waking up face down in a ditch on the other side of town, I really don't appreciate people trying to govern over me who have no right to do so. Plus if my phone gets sniped, first thought is it's getting stolen, first reaction is to jump and get it back.

I'll damn well ride my bike while talking on the phone if I so choose, and I do it in the proper lane. You ever notice how most of the kids on their phones on bikes are going ~9km/hr? I'm sure they can stop, we aren't all dumb.

And you're just jealous you don't get a fresh piece of ass every month.

There is merit to this, too.

I have been known to play games on my phone while riding. It won't get sniped without injuries, unless the person doing the sniping is really fast. Tell my Mommy and Daddy? :roflmao: Go ahead. I'm 44. My Mom will probably just look at you funny. My Dad will tell you where you can go.

You should buy the kid a blue tooth headset :)

I have talked on the phone once on my bike. It was a booty call so I HAD to answer.

Let the kid learn his lesson when he breaks his phone or gets it jacked.

machete justice !

The only thing I see wrong is being on the wrong side of the road, which is dangerous with or without a cellphone.

I'm sure if you did what you say you want to do, their parents will just make sure they have a car on their sixteenth birthday so they can talk on their cell phone "safely"

I went off my rocker after 4 near-misses in the space of 3 hours yesterday...sorry to have offended anyone.

I'm seriously thinking that it's time I get away from the city: people in New Brunswick just plain aren't as nice or as considerate as they are in South Jersey...

I went off my rocker after 4 near-misses in the space of 3 hours yesterday...sorry to have offended anyone.
OK, that explains the OP rant. Hope you are feeling better today.

Only if you like waking up face down in a ditch on the other side of town, I really don't appreciate people trying to govern over me who have no right to do so. Plus if my phone gets sniped, first thought is it's getting stolen, first reaction is to jump and get it back.

I'll damn well ride my bike while talking on the phone if I so choose, and I do it in the proper lane. You ever notice how most of the kids on their phones on bikes are going ~9km/hr? I'm sure they can stop, we aren't all dumb.



The problem with the cell phone riders, like cell phone drivers, isn't the speed. It's the weaving all over the road like they just downed a fifth of Jaeger.

I'm sure you'll claim otherwise, but I'm not believing that much of anyone has the ability to ride one-handed and distracted while talking on a cell phone. And as long as you're riding in traffic with the rest of us, you need to do your part to keep us all safe.



I'll damn well ride my bike while talking on the phone if I so choose, and I do it in the proper lane.


Sorry, I must have missed those lane markings - which lane is the cell-phone lane?

The problem with the cell phone riders, like cell phone drivers, isn't the speed. It's the weaving all over the road like they just downed a fifth of Jaeger.

I'm sure you'll claim otherwise, but I'm not believing that much of anyone has the ability to ride one-handed and distracted while talking on a cell phone. And as long as you're riding in traffic with the rest of us, you need to do your part to keep us all safe.



Sorry, I must have missed those lane markings - which lane is the cell-phone lane?

The same one as the shopping bag lane and water bottle lane. It permits cycling for those with a different mindset/skillset than that held by Tight Donkey Nannies.

The same one as the shopping bag lane and water bottle lane. It permits cycling for those with a different mindset/skillset than that held by Tight Donkey Nannies.

I'm not interested in your mindset when you're weaving all over the road while you talk to your buddies. Remarkably, that's the same argument I hear from women who put on their makeup while they drive.

I'm not interested in your mindset when you're weaving all over the road while you talk to your buddies. Remarkably, that's the same argument I hear from women who put on their makeup while they drive.

Really? Exactly how many actual makeup applying while driving women have you had that argument with; is it about the same number of arguments YOU have had with cell phoning cyclists weaving about the road?

Since I crashed cornering while chatting last year I've taken to only using cell phones on straight roads. I'll even stop sometimes.

It's all about the bluetooth headset... I'm considering a permanent installation in my winter/DH helmet. Still working on setting up wireless voice dialing, windnoise is an issue. Plus I can get wireless music as well...

The same one as the shopping bag lane and water bottle lane. It permits cycling for those with a different mindset/skillset than that held by Tight Donkey Nannies.

Apologizing for my ignorance, but WTH is a Tight Donkey Nanny?

The problem with the cell phone riders, like cell phone drivers, isn't the speed. It's the weaving all over the road like they just downed a fifth of Jaeger.

When I'm on the phone on my bike it's generally with no hands, going not so fast in a straight line in the bike lane.

No hands=straighter, especially with practice.

Apologizing for my ignorance, but WTH is a Tight Donkey Nanny?Think of a three letter word for donkey...

Relax, let them figure out on their own why cell phone use is as bad as drunk driving.

Some people are just dense. You can tell them it's hot all day long, but you have to let them burn their hands to figure it out.

+ 1 to the letting the stupid people learn a lesson.

Really? Exactly how many actual makeup applying while driving women have you had that argument with; is it about the same number of arguments YOU have had with cell phoning cyclists weaving about the road?

I'll bet there's a point there somewhere, but I don't have a shovel with me.

+ 1 to the letting the stupid people learn a lesson.Stupid people don't learn lessons. They come here posting about almost kicking the as$ of the cager who almost ran them down (after the cyclist ran a stop sign going the wrong way while talking on their cell phone), or about how they should just run down the next pedestrian who gets in their way (after the cyclist inattentively weaved into the pedestrian while talking on their cell phone), or about the busybody cyclist whose as$ they almost kicked (after getting yelled at to "pay attention" while weaving in the bike lane, riding against traffic while talking on their cell phone)...

You should get yoru local legistlature to pass a law against talking on a cell phone while operating a vehicle, not just motor vehicle if they haven't already. Well all know how well those work :rolleyes:

Don't take it or you'll be stealing. Don't touch the kid whether they are 6 or 44 because that is assault. Just treat them like a danger to you like every single moving and non moving object is if you don't take proper action and move on.

I for one always stop and pull over my bicycle when the phone rings.
1) The wind noise would make it impossible to hear
2) My heavy bike/self would have to slow too much to concentrate on talking on riding on a very busy road and I don't want to become roadkill.
3) How can I complain about drivers doing it if I do too! :D

I'll bet there's a point there somewhere, but I don't have a shovel with me.

Let me spell it out. The "arguments" from the imaginary characters that you claim to be hearing (weaving female motorists applying make-up and weaving cell phone using cyclists) are just so much electronic hot air. Maybe you should seek professional help about those voices you've been "hearing."

You should get yoru local legistlature to pass a law against talking on a cell phone while operating a vehicle, not just motor vehicle if they haven't already. Well all know how well those work :rolleyes:

Don't take it or you'll be stealing. Don't touch the kid whether they are 6 or 44 because that is assault. Just treat them like a danger to you like every single moving and non moving object is if you don't take proper action and move on.

I for one always stop and pull over my bicycle when the phone rings.
1) The wind noise would make it impossible to hear
2) My heavy bike/self would have to slow too much to concentrate on talking on riding on a very busy road and I don't want to become roadkill.
3) How can I complain about drivers doing it if I do too! :D

Exactly, thank you!

I guess the majority of my anger about stupid on phones and driving/cycling is that my nephew was hit by a couple of teenagers in a car, the driver on her phone and she claimed "Well, he was in MY way"

I know, I know, 'calm down...' I'm just glad my nephew wasn't killed, and that the little **** that hit him is no longer allowed to drive...legally at least.

Exactly, thank you!

I guess the majority of my anger about stupid on phones and driving/cycling is that my nephew was hit by a couple of teenagers in a car, the driver on her phone and she claimed "Well, he was in MY way"

I know, I know, 'calm down...' I'm just glad my nephew wasn't killed, and that the little **** that hit him is no longer allowed to drive...legally at least.

Got it. Some people driving a car and using a cell phone injured your nephew, therefore you are on a tear about reckless, stupid and ignorant cyclists as evidenced by the fact that you saw a cell phone in the hand of a cyclist.

You had a better explanation before: when you apologized and blamed Your own anger and your bad day for Your OP rant.

Ok, so, I'm starting to see an alarming trend develop here, especially with our spoiled and uneducated youth: self-important nitwits on cellphones whilst riding bikes against traffic on the sidewalk, out in the middle of the wrong side of the street, or even in areas where small children are playing.

What sort of recourse do I have with this? Can I just drag the little munchkin back to his idiot parents and scream at them until I'm blue in the face? Or do I snipe the little git and grab the phone, promising to give it back IF, and ONLY IF, they promise to come to a complete stop, dismount and then proceed to chat with their flavour of the month floozy?

This is disgusting, and a sign that the American culture is even more poisoned than I originally thought...maybe I should take the job offer in Kenya...

Maybe you should if you hate it here so much. :rolleyes:

While the wife and I were out riding when I happen to observe another couple riding a tandem with a trailer full of groceries in tow. I motioned to the wife to look at them, but quickly changed my mind when I spotted the wife in the rear seat happily chatting away on her cell phone while hubby was doing the steering. I told the wife not to get any ideas about getting a tandem, and that I very happy our single bikes. ;)

I'm sure that woman thinks cellphone + bike = genius

Ok, so, I'm starting to see an alarming trend develop here, especially with our spoiled and uneducated youth: self-important nitwits on cellphones whilst riding bikes against traffic on the sidewalk, out in the middle of the wrong side of the street, or even in areas where small children are playing.

What sort of recourse do I have with this? Can I just drag the little munchkin back to his idiot parents and scream at them until I'm blue in the face? Or do I snipe the little git and grab the phone, promising to give it back IF, and ONLY IF, they promise to come to a complete stop, dismount and then proceed to chat with their flavour of the month floozy?

This is disgusting, and a sign that the American culture is even more poisoned than I originally thought...maybe I should take the job offer in Kenya...

I see the trend, also . . . but, wouldn't say that it is in development, it's always been with us, and is in full manifestation on this forum. Have a look at your post. You head the thread so as to make one anticipate a rant about cellphone usage while riding, but you lace your post with a laundry list of adjectives that make it clear you have a real problem with your perception of the youth in your area. According to you, they are all spoiled, uneducated, self-important . . . they ride against traffic (apparently everywhere, out in the middle of the street, on the sidewalk, guess, according to you, they're wrong for riding, period . . . since you condemn them all).

Just how many dangerous encounters have you, personally, experienced as a result of youth exhibiting all the negatives spewed forth by you in your post?

I am willing to bet you haven't had even one.

I very seldom see anyone riding seriously while talking on a cell phone. The few I have seen riding and chatting were devoting most of their efforts to chatting, as exhibited by their slow progress on the bike - slow enough that they were no danger to themselves or anyone else riding around them. As for riding with one hand, I've seen many a rider in full kit riding substantial distances upright with no hands at all to take a break from a long day in the saddle hunched over the bars - do it myself at times, also, and I don't feel I'm endangering anyone. It speaks to the degree to which I feel quite comfortable and in control of the bike. If a bear suddenly appeared in front of me, I'd revert to my stodgy old 'both-hands-on-the-bars approach so that I could take evasive action.

Personally, I think you should work on adjusting your attitude and leave the youth alone.

Caruso

I see the trend, also . . . but, wouldn't say that it is in development, it's always been with us, and is in full manifestation on this forum. Have a look at your post. You head the thread so as to make one anticipate a rant about cellphone usage while riding, but you lace your post with a laundry list of adjectives that make it clear you have a real problem with your perception of the youth in your area. According to you, they are all spoiled, uneducated, self-important . . . they ride against traffic (apparently everywhere, out in the middle of the street, on the sidewalk, guess, according to you, they're wrong for riding, period . . . since you condemn them all).

Just how many dangerous encounters have you, personally, experienced as a result of youth exhibiting all the negatives spewed forth by you in your post?

I am willing to bet you haven't had even one.

I very seldom see anyone riding seriously while talking on a cell phone. The few I have seen riding and chatting were devoting most of their efforts to chatting, as exhibited by their slow progress on the bike - slow enough that they were no danger to themselves or anyone else riding around them. As for riding with one hand, I've seen many a rider in full kit riding substantial distances upright with no hands at all to take a break from a long day in the saddle hunched over the bars - do it myself at times, also, and I don't feel I'm endangering anyone. It speaks to the degree to which I feel quite comfortable and in control of the bike. If a bear suddenly appeared in front of me, I'd revert to my stodgy old 'both-hands-on-the-bars approach so that I could take evasive action.

Personally, I think you should work on adjusting your attitude and leave the youth alone.

Caruso

+1

Keep the tirades directed to the idiots text messaging while DRIVING...

i havent read the whole thread but i frequently use the phone while riding to/from work, and when running errands.

funny you mention this...
the other day, while passing a few (+/- 3) kids heading to local swimming area, (at least going in the correct riding with traffic direction), one lost a cell phone that flew to the ground and shattered to pieces.
i just passed stating "on your left".
i pull over either riding or driving to use the cell phone. keeping things secure (rackpac, h/b bag, etc helps too.

Got it. Some people driving a car and using a cell phone injured your nephew, therefore you are on a tear about reckless, stupid and ignorant cyclists as evidenced by the fact that you saw a cell phone in the hand of a cyclist.

You had a better explanation before: when you apologized and blamed Your own anger and your bad day for Your OP rant.

I had a near encounter with a reckless little child on a cellphone that forced me to swerve into oncoming traffic. His response was laughter as I came within inches of being splattered by an SUV. This is not the first time that this has happened to me.



I see the trend, also . . . but, wouldn't say that it is in development, it's always been with us, and is in full manifestation on this forum. Have a look at your post. You head the thread so as to make one anticipate a rant about cellphone usage while riding, but you lace your post with a laundry list of adjectives that make it clear you have a real problem with your perception of the youth in your area. According to you, they are all spoiled, uneducated, self-important . . . they ride against traffic (apparently everywhere, out in the middle of the street, on the sidewalk, guess, according to you, they're wrong for riding, period . . . since you condemn them all).

Just how many dangerous encounters have you, personally, experienced as a result of youth exhibiting all the negatives spewed forth by you in your post?

I am willing to bet you haven't had even one.

I very seldom see anyone riding seriously while talking on a cell phone. The few I have seen riding and chatting were devoting most of their efforts to chatting, as exhibited by their slow progress on the bike - slow enough that they were no danger to themselves or anyone else riding around them. As for riding with one hand, I've seen many a rider in full kit riding substantial distances upright with no hands at all to take a break from a long day in the saddle hunched over the bars - do it myself at times, also, and I don't feel I'm endangering anyone. It speaks to the degree to which I feel quite comfortable and in control of the bike. If a bear suddenly appeared in front of me, I'd revert to my stodgy old 'both-hands-on-the-bars approach so that I could take evasive action.

Personally, I think you should work on adjusting your attitude and leave the youth alone.

Caruso

Caruso, please see above. If you'd like, I'd be more than happy to post at length about my experiences in New Jersey and the Philadelphia area. I'd even go so far as inviting you to come ride some of the battlefields around here, but I suggest you have health insurance, as NJ is considered to be a no fault state, which I found out last year when a group of teenagers, on cellphones, in daddy's BMW X5, ran me off the road and into a drainage ditch, filled with rocks and barbed wire.

Judging from your username, I'd guess you're from Wisconsin, one of the nicest places I've visited in this country. There are educated, civilised people there. (Not all of them, but the large majority of the people I encountered on a 400-mile cycling tour of the Upper Peninsula and WI were very considerate...)

That being said, I'm astounded that people are so laissez-faire about letting kids do what they want. Maybe I'm too old school, and then again, we can already see what all the rigid parenting of the 1950's and 60's did to the majority of people in the 40's and 50's today...

I guess the world is going to hell and the younger generation is driving the bus there :rolleyes:

http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2006/10/05/nokia_ships_5500_sport_music_phone/

I had a near encounter with a reckless little child on a cellphone that forced me to swerve into oncoming traffic. His response was laughter as I came within inches of being splattered by an SUV. This is not the first time that this has happened to me.

With all due respects, voile, the above I am certain must be an over-simplified account, because, reading it at face value leaves me groping to fill in the blanks. You had an encounter with a reckless little child talking on a cell phone - the child was where in relation to you and that SUV? In the street, on the sidewalk, on a Multi-Use-Path, what? If your avoidance maneuver put you in danger of being splattered by an SUV, then, I guess you were riding on the street . . . so, the little child was also riding in the street, riding ahead of you, coming at you from the opposite direction, what? You were overtaking the child ?? . . . I am just having a difficult time trying to picture what sort of encounter with a child could leave you no other evasive choice but to swerve into oncoming traffic. Could you not simply have applied your brakes to slow down or stop? Or did you make a choice to pass that child as an SUV approached? Oh, and this has happened to you on more than one occasion, right? How about relating the details of a couple more of these encounters. Perhaps some sort of pattern will be revealed.

I don't mean for my peppering you with questions to be construed as ridicule . . . I'd just like some more detail about the incident(s).


Caruso, please see above. If you'd like, I'd be more than happy to post at length about my experiences in New Jersey and the Philadelphia area. I'd even go so far as inviting you to come ride some of the battlefields around here, but I suggest you have health insurance, as NJ is considered to be a no fault state, which I found out last year when a group of teenagers, on cellphones, in daddy's BMW X5, ran me off the road and into a drainage ditch, filled with rocks and barbed wire.

Judging from your username, I'd guess you're from Wisconsin, one of the nicest places I've visited in this country. There are educated, civilised people there. (Not all of them, but the large majority of the people I encountered on a 400-mile cycling tour of the Upper Peninsula and WI were very considerate...)

That being said, I'm astounded that people are so laissez-faire about letting kids do what they want. Maybe I'm too old school, and then again, we can already see what all the rigid parenting of the 1950's and 60's did to the majority of people in the 40's and 50's today...

Actually, voile, I live in Bucks County, PA, every bit the equal of a cycling 'war zone' as your NJ, another state in which I ride regularly. I have worked and cycled at length in center city Philadelphia, and one of my rides includes a long stint over route 611 (which becomes Broad Street) into the city. That leg takes you through traffic (and socio-economical) conditions as challenging as any you will encounter. Most of my rides have been, thankfully, without incident - none of my incidents or close calls involved kids cycling while talking on cell phones. Broad Street, particularly from the north edge of Philly into City Hall consists of four lanes barely wide enough to fit four cars abreast (two in each direction) with curb-side parking along both sides. However, I have found most car/bus drivers sufficiently accommodating that I can ride that stretch without feeling that I am in danger. Sometimes, I'll ride from my place up to Princeton and take Route 1 from there back to Trenton on my way home - traffic on Route 1 is quite fast, and Trenton is a mix of conditions, most of which are not, by design, cycling-friendly.

Both my children reside in New York City, and I have also spent several days cycling there and have covered various routes between the George Washington Bridge and the Brooklyn Bridge many times. I find NYC to be much more bike friendly and tolerant than Philadelphia - perhaps because drivers there are used to seeing many more bikes, but, I feel safe riding in both cities . . . and have never felt endangered by kids talking on cell phones while riding their bikes.


when a group of teenagers, on cellphones, in daddy's BMW X5, ran me off the road and into a drainage ditch, filled with rocks and barbed wire.

. . .how many teenagers, on how many cellphones, driving how many BMW X5's . . . or was there just one of each? Again, the tone of your statement makes me think you are trying to amplify the facts to suit your argument. Did the X5 overtake you from behind, or did it swerve across the center line confronting you head-on and forcing you off the road?

Was it the driver using a cell phone, or only the passengers, and, whichever, how do know they were on cell phones? You were riding a bike at the time, right? I don't know about you, but, I rarely get a good enough view of a driver (especially one that passes me from behind) to know if he/she is talking on a cell phone (this would be especially true if the car actually ran me off the road), and I could really care less if the passengers are using theirs. Oh, and, just how do you know that the BMW X5 belongs to 'daddy', or is this just another descriptive element in your array of stereotypical prejudgments? Was the outcome of this incident so serious that police were involved, a report written? Just curious.

Lastly, I thought the kernel of your annoyance had to do with cyclists using cell phones while operating their bikes, so, I wonder what being run off the road by someone driving a BMW has to do with this topic.

Caruso

With all due respects, voile, the above I am certain must be an over-simplified account, because, reading it at face value leaves me groping to fill in the blanks.
Caruso,

The first paragraph of this post by the OP will probably fill in the blanks:
http://www.bikeforums.net/showpost.php?p=5198363&postcount=1

Wow, so you people are indeed just as cruel as everyone else...

Caruso, I-like-to-bike, I'm sorry, but I don't really feel like going down to the sharpest detail about every incident, as I'd be here all day in that case. If you want to know the colour of the pebbles that lodged into me knee, or the state of the X5 driver's bank account, I can tell you some other time.

I finally start posting here, and this is how I'm treated? Because I call out a few people on how they raise their children, everyone gangs up on me like I'm the problem, when I have only been the victim, out there, on the road, every day for 3 years at 9000 miles a year.

Fine, I'm through with this place too. Thanks fellas, you really know how to make someone feel like crap.

Wow, so you people are indeed just as cruel as everyone else...

Caruso, I-like-to-bike, I'm sorry, but I don't really feel like going down to the sharpest detail about every incident, as I'd be here all day in that case. If you want to know the colour of the pebbles that lodged into me knee, or the state of the X5 driver's bank account, I can tell you some other time.

I finally start posting here, and this is how I'm treated? Because I call out a few people on how they raise their children, everyone gangs up on me like I'm the problem, when I have only been the victim, out there, on the road, every day for 3 years at 9000 miles a year.

Fine, I'm through with this place too. Thanks fellas, you really know how to make someone feel like ****.

See your physician/minister ASAP, the meds aren't working.

we aren't all dumb.
...Right...

One last thing: if you want to tell me that I have no credibility because of my previous statements, I should like to point out that on this "public" forum, I never did. BikeForums, like any other pretentious club, only recognises people based on their "status", and ridicules anyone else. Much like humanity, I am a nobody to you, just like everywhere else. So kindly go and {insert expletive** yourself.

another senseless forumcide. when will it end?
I bet no one forumcides in kenya.

See this other thread (http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?p=5198363#post5198363) that I've started, and maybe you can understand. I apologise profusely to anyone I may have offended. Times are very rough for me emotionally, and I have a tendency to vent at everyone...

You missed the "I could mind my own business, just relax a bit and get over it" option.

What he just described is illegal in NSW. Over here, you can still drive with a mobile up to your ear. And that's where kids like this are headed.

+1

Keep the tirades directed to the idiots text messaging while DRIVING...

Has anybody seen a cyclist riding and texting yet?

Has anybody seen a cyclist riding and texting yet?

Yes I have, this afternoon at that!

He was a fat, un-helmeted louse and he was slowly wobbling along, not looking at anything but the phone. It almost made me want to puke/almost made my day (if he had fallen).

I've seen some beanpole-thin, helmeted ones at it with their Crackberries, too.

Mmmmmm....crackberries...