Fifty Plus (50+) - 50+'rs - How to Avoid Getting Foo'd

50+'rs - How to Avoid Getting Foo'd

We seem to have some moderators intent on having us get advice or having discussions about things from the younger than 50+ groups, when generally our intent is to get the wisdom of those over 50 who may have a bit different perspective on life, due to their experiences.

Several of our posts have recently been moved to "foo."

To help avoid this, it is good to have 50+ and bicycle IN THE TITLE of the thread.

I.e., SKT might have asked

"How do 50+'rs who bicycle know it is time for a divorce?"

rather than

"How do you know it is time for a divorce?"

This technique has worked in the past. Perhaps it will help in the future.???

Release the Diego's

Wow! I did a search to see which thread of DG's got moved, and there's been a few. In the "silent ride for the Diegos" someone suggested there be a 50+ foo forum. That might be an idea, only maybe as a subforum on 50+? I'd hate it if one of my posts got moved to a place where I didn't know anyone...

Sorry. I'm with the mods on this one.

I come to BikeForums.net to read and learn about bikes and cycling. If I wanted to read about divorces, I'd go to DivorceForums.net.

I'm with tsl on this. Some of the topics are quite a ways from biking. Divorce, TV's, etc.

Wow! I did a search to see which thread of DG's got moved, and there's been a few. In the "silent ride for the Diegos" someone suggested there be a 50+ foo forum. That might be an idea, only maybe as a subforum on 50+? I'd hate it if one of my posts got moved to a place where I didn't know anyone...

Really? They're moving my posts? Wow..

a subforum on 50+?

Another site I visit often has a sub-forum called "Conversations" in almost every main forum. I think it's a great way to allow off-topic conversation among folks who are familiar with the members in their own group. I'd prefer asking an off-topic question here over the Foo forum where I'm a stranger.

Losing a wallet after forgetting to zip the seat pack seems like a 50+ issue to me. :) :eek:

Besides, I'm interested in what you guys are thinking and doing even if it's totally unrelated to Bikes. Tom's sending his daughter to school, people's dogs, getting colonoscopies (OK, maybe not that so much)... it's all important. I would miss it if it were all about bikes.

50+ about bikes and only bikes would get old in a hurry...:)

50+ about bikes and only bikes would get old in a hurry...:)

We already *are* old, so what's yer point?

We already *are* old, so what's yer point?


:roflmao:

I'm with tsl on this. Some of the topics are quite a ways from biking. Divorce, TV's, etc.

I guess I don't get what's so hard about not reading a thread that doesn't interest one's self. I do it all the time.

50+ has a unique way of looking at things. It has some common sense thats useful for folks our age. That uniqueness has always come witha sort of irreverent personality. All of BF is about bicycles. If folks want to learn how to fix a part they wander down to mechanics forum. If they want to know if 97 is the proper cadence for climbing an 11.43% grade they visit the Road Forum. Camping and carrying stuff is in Touring, Building bikes for large people is in Clydsdale, ESL is in the MTB Forum etc. etc. Most folks came here because it fit 50+ bicyclists like a soft grey shoe. Its like sitting around the stove with other riders with a slice of pie and a hot chocolet after a fall ride. (oops, shouldn't have used the word fall with ride..............slap, don't get cute.............Blue.....OMG where do you get off) or.............:(

Besides, I'm interested in what you guys are thinking and doing even if it's totally unrelated to Bikes. Tom's sending his daughter to school, people's dogs, getting colonoscopies (OK, maybe not that so much)... it's all important. I would miss it if it were all about bikes.

+1000
To me, this isn't just a forum for 50+ cyclists to learn and share cycling issues, it's a community of people. I can just skim past a thread if it doesn't interest or apply to me.

50+ has a unique way of looking at things. It has some common sense thats useful for folks our age. That uniqueness has always come witha sort of irreverent personality. All of BF is about bicycles. If folks want to learn how to fix a part they wander down to mechanics forum. If they want to know if 97 is the proper cadence for climbing an 11.43% grade they visit the Road Forum. Camping and carrying stuff is in Touring, Building bikes for large people is in Clydsdale, ESL is in the MTB Forum etc. etc. Most folks came here because it fit 50+ bicyclists like a soft grey shoe. Its like sitting around the stove with other riders with a slice of pie and a hot chocolet after a fall ride. (oops, shouldn't have used the word fall with ride..............slap, don't get cute.............Blue.....OMG where do you get off) or.............:(

Yep, that too...

P.S: I already wear soft grey shoes..... Asics running shoes, grey with pink trim (the only color in stock at the time). :)

I guess I don't get what's so hard about not reading a thread that doesn't interest one's self. I do it all the time.

And I guess I don't get what's so hard about posting off-topic stuff in the off-topic sub-forum. I do it all the time.

I made a poll. I forgot the ?, but it's a question.

http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=339599

And I guess I don't get what's so hard about posting off-topic stuff in the off-topic sub-forum. I do it all the time.

I prefer this forum. Simple.

Yeah, but deeg, it's kind of a choice between wanting our posts moved out of here or not. They're inconsistent about it, so it's surprising when it happens. I don't think I'd post my saddle sore question to people I didn't know or want it to show up somewhere else. I'm sure there are several threads that we wouldn't want to see moved.

And I guess I don't get what's so hard about posting off-topic stuff in the off-topic sub-forum. I do it all the time.
My rebuttle could be, that given a choice of receiving feedback on something that is more life-oriented than biking-oriented, I'll take my choice with a gang of folks that are my age in the 50+ forum ... versus possibly a teenager in the off-topic subforums.

It would be a stretch to receive blood pressure advice (which can be a significant biking issue), from a person that is residing in a body ... that has been existence in less than half the time our bodies have been existing.

Sorry. I'm with the mods on this one.

I come to BikeForums.net to read and learn about bikes and cycling. If I wanted to read about divorces, I'd go to DivorceForums.net.

+1 with the addition of ... to read and learn about bikes and cycling from those close to my own age.

Sometimes the titles are not indicative of what is really being discussed in the thread. So, the argument of not reading threads that don't interest you only carries a small amount of weight for me. If I open a thread that I think is related to something that I am interested in only to find that it's not, this is almost as annoying as see a thread with 424 responses, a title that makes no cycling sense, and then finding that the subject is cycling related and of high interest. The criticism that we're a bunch of coffee klatch chatters comes with some merit.

[SIZE="4"]....this is almost as annoying as see a thread with 424 responses, a title that makes no cycling sense, and then finding that the subject is cycling related and of high interest. The criticism that we're a bunch of coffee klatch chatters comes with some merit.

LOL! Like this group ever stays on topic. I keep checking the colonoscopy thread to see if it's switched over to toe-clips.

LOL! Like this group ever stays on topic. I keep checking the colonoscopy thread to see if it's switched over to toe-clips.

I read somewhere that the stress of learning to ride clipless -- and prolonged deliberation over whether to do so -- can lead to colon polyps.....

I guess one perspective is that there is very little that happen's in one's life that isn't related in one fashion or another to bicycling. I would guess that SKT's concerns about divorce relate rther directly to the time he can devote to bicycling, and, also to perhaps using bicycling as a form of meditation to think through his home problems, such as they are.

I know that there is/was a direct link between my physical health/heart problems and my bicycling.

And, I greatly enjoy the humor expressed here, and sometimes even think about when I am - - - - you guessed it, BICYCLING!

However, I would support a sort of "conversation" sub-forum - but who is going to monitor that to be sure that the posts are "sorted" correctly.

Another option is a 50+ group letter to Brian asking the mods to just leave the 50+ forum alone unless we ask for help.

Here are the current mods:

Admin

Brian
donnamb
HostGeekZ
Joe Gardner

Super Moderators

55/Rad
a2psyklnut
Chris L
cuda2k
FitRider 921
hi565
I_Bike
jschen
jsharr
Juha
kemmer
khuon
lala
Lecterman
lotek
LowCel
Maelstrom
MediaCreations
Mr. Smashy
onetwentyeight
phantomcow2
pitboss
Rev.Chuck
RonH
snowy
Tom Stormcrowe
voltman

I read somewhere that the stress of learning to ride clipless -- and prolonged deliberation over whether to do so -- can lead to colon polyps.....

Yen gets it! :)

So, if we might need to ask for help, does that make us helpless?

So, if we might need to ask for help, does that make us helpless?

:roflmao:

I guess one perspective is that there is very little that happen's in one's life that isn't related in one fashion or another to bicycling.

That's such a sweeping generalization that I have to disagree, just on basic principals.


I know that there is/was a direct link between my physical health/heart problems and my bicycling.

And that's one of the reasons 50+ is a legitimate bicycling sub-forum. There are things that happen to us that the young-uns just don't get.


And, I greatly enjoy the humor expressed here, and sometimes even think about when I am - - - - you guessed it, BICYCLING!

Which is something I'm not certain everyone does enough of around here. Some of you are on the fourm so much I don't know when you can fit in time to go to the can, let alone ride a bike. Or have a colonoscopy (see: not enough time to go to the can.)


However, I would support a sort of "conversation" sub-forum

Having just ridden my bicycle on a grocery run, (was out of oatmeal, bran muffins and other colonoscopy-avoidance roughage) I had some time to contemplate that, and find--to my great surprise--that I agree. There occassionally are off-topic things here that I find interesting, funny or useful. So I can't support complete banishment, but I don't always have the time or inclination to wade through them while looking for on-topic stuff. A 50+ O/T sub-sub-forum might be a reasonable middle ground.


Another option is a 50+ group letter to Brian asking the mods to just leave the 50+ forum alone unless we ask for help.

That would set a poor precedent and be a genuinely Bad Idea®. Imagine if A&S or P&R got wind of that...

50+'rs - How to Avoid Getting Foo'd

DF, thanks for the good advice.

With regard to various and sundry changes proposed, I feel that 50+ is not "busted", and therefore it does not need to be fixed.

I enjoy the humorous posts and many of those that are not directly related to cycling. Sounds like we're getting too legalistic or trying to over-specify 50+ as if we are a bunch of government bureaucrats. The mouse on my computer is analogous to the power switch, channel selector, or volume control on the remote. We have the freedom to choose not to view or participate in a topic.

50+ is a little outside of the box, and that's great!

How many mods are 50+ in age?

How many mods are 50+ in age?

Well, Tom Stormcrow is almost 50. (47 or 48 I think).

Of course, after a year of moderating A & S or P & R, they feel at least 50 I assume...

How many mods are 50+ in age?

RonH is over 60, but won't admit it publicly. Besides, he has no problems or concerns in life!:D:):D

So basically the 50+ forum is moderated by mostly 50- mods. That's like having mostly men moderate the women's only forum.

having made it to 50 against all the bets, i find that i am in no hurry to get anywhere now... that includes getting through the postings here. if i open a thread and it is not of interest, i move on. a few extra seconds out of the day (even multiples of extra seconds) will not delay my getting to the end of the day. this seems a relaxed place to hang out. there is great comfort in familiarity.

i feel sorry for those who are such a hurry that they need somebody to "sort the mail" for them before they sit to read.... or are seemingly incapable of just sifting through as they go.....

when you go to work, are all the conversation related only to work? or are there a few little chats that have nothing to do with work, but plenty to do with the worker?

i agree with the poster who suggested a group letter requesting we be left alone unless we ask for help.

I will vote for keeping all threads in the 50+ and not having them in a sub group or moved to other forums. Would signing a petition (to send to the mods) do any good? If +/- 75% of the regulars signed the petition it might carry some weight.

Personally, I find it rather sad that so many of you in my age bracket don't want to share your experiences with younger people or listen to what they have to say about life. You'd rather live in your own gated, retirement community.

Somebody, please shoot me if I ever get there.

Personally, I find it rather sad that so many of you in my age bracket don't want to share your experiences with younger people or listen to what they have to say about life. You'd rather live in your own gated, retirement community.

Somebody, please shoot me if I ever get there.

Glad to, consider it done:D

Somebody, please shoot me if I ever get there.

I'd be pleased to assist you in any way I can!

Sign me,

Helpful

That would set a poor precedent and be a genuinely Bad Idea®. Imagine if A&S or P&R got wind of that...

Actually, a letter writing and/or petition has been done before. In fact, that was a portion of how Koffe Brown got removed as assistant forum director. No, I was not involved in any way, although she and I had a continual battle, I never formally complained. She was a total rules person, unable to adjust to a more flexible forum.

Personally, I find it rather sad that so many of you in my age bracket don't want to share your experiences with younger people or listen to what they have to say about life. You'd rather live in your own gated, retirement community.

Somebody, please shoot me if I ever get there.

:crash:

In any event, that thread has been dealt with. Thank you to the mods

Actually, a good, metal toeclip can make a nifty birth control device should passion overcome a couple in midride. (Perhaps not so relevent for 50Plussers.) Which single moderator can fairly balance all points of view on what is helpful, germane, or vitally tied to another's cycling experience.

Do we chat? How nice that some harmless oldsters like ourselves have found a connection. Beats hangin' at the local donut shop sucking up transfats.

We need a firm, fair, open minded moderator or our own (with some admin latitude of action) to run our section of BF.

I prefer this forum. Simple.

+1000

Sorry. I'm with the mods on this one.


I disagree. While bikes and cycling are the core of this forum, its also about being a cyclist and a person who is 50+. That takes in all of life. Grandchildren, divorces, etc. Its wrong to limit it. But there should be balance.

I disagree. While bikes and cycling are the core of this forum, its also about being a cyclist and a person who is 50+. That takes in all of life. Grandchildren, divorces, etc. Its wrong to limit it. But there should be balance.

Agreed. This is actually an online community that is a community. There's a lot of support. A lot of genuine help. A lot of good will. Maybe it's just me getting older, but I'm willing to accept and find gentle humor in the occasional OT foibles of others in hopes that they'll accept and find gentle humor in mine.

Try finding that somewhere else online.

Agreed. This is actually an online community that is a community. There's a lot of support. A lot of genuine help. A lot of good will. Maybe it's just me getting older, but I'm willing to accept and find gentle humor in the occasional OT foibles of others in hopes that they'll accept and find gentle humor in mine.

Try finding that somewhere else online.

Yeah, like hearing about one's shaving habits. :D

Yeah, like hearing about one's shaving habits. :D

You're harshing my mellow, dude. I sentence you to six weeks of hard labor in P&R.

Um Hmm


Release the Diego's

Hmmm mmmm

Here's what I find off-putting about having threads moved to Foo.

The group here in the 50+ forum has developed a certain culture, if you will. A person might feel comfortable bringing up a personal topic here, knowing that culture, and having familiarity with the group here. That person may not be willing to introduce that same topic within the demographic of the Foo arena.

It's not strictly an age issue; and it's not a condemnation of Foo. It's more about starting a conversation in a particular place, with a particular set of people, and then having that convo redirected to another location, without asking the OP if that is OK.

I would at least like the mods to give the thread-starter some options: having a thread moved to Foo, or edited to fit the 50+ forum, or deleted if that is not possible.

The suggestion to create a "conversation" subforum within this one makes very good sense to me. It gives the mods another option, beyond those I've outlined above, and keeps the "offending" thread within the community for which it was intended.