"The 33"-Road Bike Racing - PowerTap issue

Alright....went to upload a ride tonight, and the sync timed out, and now the damn head unit is stuck on "host"...and has been for like 45 minutes, even out of the cradle thingy. Can't seem to clear it...anyone run into this?

Alright....went to upload a ride tonight, and the sync timed out, and now the damn head unit is stuck on "host"...and has been for like 45 minutes, even out of the cradle thingy. Can't seem to clear it...anyone run into this?

Have you tried removing the battery?

Just got 'Training With a Power Meter' book, says Powertap is not compatible with Mac. Isn't that out of date? Can you upload Powertap data into the Mac via Powertap's own software or Cycling Peaks' Mac version?

Yeah, that worked. I was going to try it before, but was afraid my ride info would get wiped out. Fortunately, it didn't....but are my other settings going to have to be reset now like when I first got it?

Who the hell uses a Mac?

Woohoo....16 miles, 59 minutes, averaged 110 watts....recovery ride.

Who the hell uses a Mac?

18% of laptop marketshare in the latest quarter. Don't think Windows can have a serious challenge? Stay tuned. In the meantime I'll keep buying Apple stock. I'll sell after Apple annual gross revenues actually surpass those of Microsoft in say, 2013.

You insufferable Windows PINHEADS.

Wait, now that I've insulted 95% of BF, will anyone ever answer my question? Wait, I insult 99% of BF on a regular basis and nobody seems to mind.

Just got 'Training With a Power Meter' book, says Powertap is not compatible with Mac. Isn't that out of date? Can you upload Powertap data into the Mac via Powertap's own software or Cycling Peaks' Mac version?

Cycling Peaks has a Mac version? I'm freaking tired of Boot Camp, 'cuz I hate Windows.

Either way, you *can* use Boot Camp to do it...

I Googled it (duh) and found an Open Source app from Golden Cheetah.org. Has anyone used this? Is this something Pcad's Dumber Than a Fifth Grader Brain could manage?

Frankly this Power Meter stuff sounds interesting, but I get the feeling I'll be like Homer at the nuclear power plant controls.

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I Googled it (duh) and found an Open Source app from Golden Cheetah.org. Has anyone used this? Is this something Pcad's Dumber Than a Fifth Grader Brain could manage?


Can't speak to Golden Cheetah, but I run Cycling Peaks via VMWare's Fusion on my Macbook. I gotta say I'm a fan... I really didn't want to have to reboot through bootcamp (cycling peaks is the ONLY reason I need window on my machine) and Fusion lets me run CP as if it were any other app on my macbook, using expose to go back and forth between CP and the web, etc. It does hog a bit of RAM and performance slows somewhat, but not too bad. (I've got 1 gig on a 2.0 Core Duo)

Install was almost entirely painless, but figuring out how to configure the USB ports rquired jumping through a few hoops. Now that it's all set up, I haven't had to think twice about anything. Just open Fusion, plug in the powertap to the cradle and hit download.

So yeah, I highly recommend Fusion for Cycling Peaks.

Just got 'Training With a Power Meter' book, says Powertap is not compatible with Mac. Isn't that out of date? Can you upload Powertap data into the Mac via Powertap's own software or Cycling Peaks' Mac version?

There is no Mac version. If you have a Mac you need to use Parallels or Boot Camp to run Windows. I have an Intel Mac that has Parallels and XP so that is the route I plan to go to. I have a PC which I still use but will eventually make the move to the Mac. You also need a USB>Serial cable for the interface with the PT computer.

Can't speak to Golden Cheetah, but I run Cycling Peaks via VMWare's Fusion on my Macbook. I gotta say I'm a fan... I really didn't want to have to reboot through bootcamp (cycling peaks is the ONLY reason I need window on my machine) and Fusion lets me run CP as if it were any other app on my macbook, using expose to go back and forth between CP and the web, etc. It does hog a bit of RAM and performance slows somewhat, but not too bad. (I've got 1 gig on a 2.0 Core Duo)

Install was almost entirely painless, but figuring out how to configure the USB ports rquired jumping through a few hoops. Now that it's all set up, I haven't had to think twice about anything. Just open Fusion, plug in the powertap to the cradle and hit download.

So yeah, I highly recommend Fusion for Cycling Peaks.

chass, what is 'Fusion'? Is that some Windows emulation voodoo software? I'm all Macs here, I'm typing this on a 2.0 Core Duo Mac laptop, that's the computer I'd like to use with the cycling software (rather than the deskbound iMacs and Towers in my office).

chass, what is 'Fusion'? Is that some Windows emulation voodoo software? I'm all Macs here, I'm typing this on a 2.0 Core Duo Mac laptop, that's the computer I'd like to use with the cycling software (rather than the deskbound iMacs and Towers in my office).

http://www.vmware.com/products/fusion/

You hit the nail on the head- it's voodoo. And some smoove voodoo, at that. I have the exact same machine as you, and in my opinion, Fusion is the way to go.

But just to help you make an edumicated decision:

Bootcamp is Apple's software that lets you run Windows on an Intel Mac, but it requires it's own partition on the harddrive (basically staking claim on some real estate on your hard drive and guarding it with a shotgun to keep OS X from using it) and also requires you to reboot the computer every time you want to use a windows app. (You boot it in Windows or OS X, and never the twain shall meet)

Parallels is a third party software that allows you to run Windows within OS X. Therefore, no need to dual boot, and no need for partitioning the hard drive.

Fusion is the new kid on the block, and does more or less the same thing as Parallels, but all signs point to it doing it better. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_VMware_Fusion_and_Parallels_Desktop)

This is the article that sold me on Fusion:
http://ptech.allthingsd.com/20070802/fusion-is-latest-way-for-macs-to-operate-windows-pc-software/

I've come to really like it's "unity" feature, which is just a mactastic way of treating any windows app as if it were an OS X app. basically it does nothing functionally, but is amazing aesthetically.

Hope this helps!

Man...this is awesome....finally, someone else did the thread-hijacking instead of me :D

Sorry Chass, the thought of actually purchasing Windows and then installing it and running on my Mac is really too much to bear. That's like putting training wheels on your Ducati sport motorcycle. I'm not sure training with power is worth it.

My buddy/former teammate made Golden Cheetah when he was a grad student at MIT. Simple but good stuff.

Pcad, if I had your money, I'd just get a second laptop with Windows to use CyclingPeaks.

Oh yeah, I'd also just get an SRM too. Can I have your money?

Sorry Chass, the thought of actually purchasing Windows and then installing it and running on my Mac is really too much to bear. That's like putting training wheels on your Ducati sport motorcycle. I'm not sure training with power is worth it.

Mr. Jobs won't give you a rebate for running Windows either.

Sorry Chass, the thought of actually purchasing Windows and then installing it and running on my Mac is really too much to bear. That's like putting training wheels on your Ducati sport motorcycle. I'm not sure training with power is worth it.


Hey, no skin off my back if it's not your thing.

But, I wouldn't advocate actually paying for Windows... I'm sure there are a few install disks floating around in your extended family or whatever. I also get a kick out of showing my anti-mac brother and father the fact my Mac can run their belovedly familiar windows within it's own operating system. IMHO, the main drawback to Windows is it's vulnerability via the internet... so after I let windows get itself all up to date with software updates, I went to exactly one webpage, cyclingpeaks.com, and then disallowed Windows use of my airport.

I do have to say- once again IMHO- that training with power is DEFINITELY worth it. The things that I have learned about myself and my capabilities from the Powertap far surpasses any negatives or hassles of putting a roof rack on my M5. I really think that Powertap/SRM is the most useful upgrade one can make to a bike. It really blew me away.

But once again, I have no stake in your decision. I am here to help enable you to make the right one, however. ;)

Let me see if I got this right. You put a roof rack on your M5?

Sweet mother of Merckx, the Humanity.

I do have to say- once again IMHO- that training with power is DEFINITELY worth it. The things that I have learned about myself and my capabilities from the Powertap far surpasses any negatives or hassles of putting a roof rack on my M5. I really think that Powertap/SRM is the most useful upgrade one can make to a bike. It really blew me away.


Whoa, that's devil talk there. I used to put my bike in the trunk/backseat of my M3, and I had a roof rack on my older M3, and both were horrible. I've seen the light, go buy a tahoe and keep the M5 nice.

Are there no automotive depths to which bike weenies will not sink in their hapless efforts to transport their dopey velo-crap? Apparently not.

Are there no automotive depths to which bike weenies will not sink in their hapless efforts to transport their dopey velo-crap? Apparently not.

actually i was attempting to allude to and re-frame your training wheels on a ducati analogy. apparently my attempt failed. i was trying to say it's not quite the nicest thing in the world, but it serves a very useful purpose. it's not quite the splinter in my minds eye that it is for you guys.

you also have to realize that roof racks of all types are pretty much standard issue here in colorado. i think you actually need one to pass inspection. i can't imagine owning a car without having the bike, ski and kayak racks in rotation throughout the year. that's pretty much what a car is for. now, if only i could strap my kayak to my bike... hmm...

so back to the matter at hand- what's the next tangent this thread is going to take?

I really could go for a pizza right about now

I really could go for a pizza right about now

Pizza RULES.

http://blogs.citypages.com/blotter/images/pizza.jpg

wouldn't it be great if you could eat for a week without penalty to weight?

God... dreaming.... I can't even enjoy fat foods anymore.

http://www.baskinrobbins.com/images/sundaes/photo_bananasplit.jpg

I've eaten like crap all last week, and didn't gain a pound, and didn't notice any loss in performance...

Before last Mondays' 50 miler, I had a big 4 scoop ice cream sundae w/ chocolate cupcake ice cream and chocolate jimmies on top....and lots of hot fudge. Good stuff.

Man that pizza looks good....

18% of laptop marketshare in the latest quarter. Don't think Windows can have a serious challenge? Stay tuned. In the meantime I'll keep buying Apple stock. I'll sell after Apple annual gross revenues actually surpass those of Microsoft in say, 2013.

You insufferable Windows PINHEADS.

Wait, now that I've insulted 95% of BF, will anyone ever answer my question? Wait, I insult 99% of BF on a regular basis and nobody seems to mind.http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=macs_cant

Please read.

Macs= Program crashes but computer doesn't
PC=Program crashes, have to reboot computer.

End result lost data. I love macs for doing AfterEffect and Photoshop, but honestly the only difference between the two is that when a program crashes you don't have to reboot the mac. You still lose all your work so who cares which platform you are on? Besides the macs are becoming more PC like every day, much so that I'm buying a new 24" imac. BTW I love my new iphone.

Don't have to necessarily reboot a PC if a program crashes....

I just had 3 hot dogs for breakfast. They were turkey hot dogs though.

BTW I love my new iphone.

Jealous :(

I love my Power Tap.

I wish I had an SRM though. Oh well.

I wish I had an SRM though. Oh well.

Yes, you do! You'd love it more than your PT, then :)

Oh I know I would. When I hit Powerball....or unless pcad buys me one, whichever comes first.

I need a sugarmomma. Unfortunately, I could almost buy a time trial bike for the cost of an SRM.

Oh I know I would. When I hit Powerball....or unless pcad buys me one, whichever comes first.

I need a sugarmomma. Unfortunately, I could almost buy a time trial bike for the cost of an SRM.

Incorrect. You CAN buy a TT bike for the cost of an SRM. My Six13 Slice was $2200 on eBay. That's less than an SRM costs. And no, you can't have my money. I'm lucky I can have my money. Get married. You'll see.

Well...I was eyeing one of the Trek TT bikes, and then the cost of a rear disc and then a Zipp 808 front.....the price then goes over that of an SRM.

And then I'd need an SRM anyway, so....yeah, I need to win Powerball. WTF.

How 'bout you buy me an SRM as a "business expense", and write it off. Not quite sure how that could happen, but I guess that's why you pay an accountant.

Or....uphill race. Loser buys the SRM.

:D

BTW, I'm kidding. Don't want to see you get divorced over it.

In which model year did the Powertap SL begin using a USB instead of serial connection? Is the download time significantly shorter using a USB connection?

I'm using a powertap 2.2 hub (older model from EBAY) and running the poweragent software on my Mac Mini with no problems. I am using the usb cradle and the free poweragent software off the Powertap website.

Is it just the Training Peaks software that is incompatable?

Hopefully this helps, Pcad.

-Ldesf