"The 33"-Road Bike Racing - No more Dick Pound jokes :(

The Dick has quit WADA.

Hmmm...could this have something to do with the Landis verdict coming up?

The Dick has quit WADA.

Hmmm...could this have something to do with the Landis verdict coming up?

We can always hope for the best. Along those lines, wouldn't this incite you to jump OFF that ledge? Do it DocRay, do it.

I just got asked to join AACTD by Slipstream's Prentice Steffen, ...so no luck, chuck.

I presume that if you're involved AACTD stands for Association to Assure Cycling's Total Destruction. And what the hell does 'no more Dick Pound jokes' mean? When was Dick Pound ever funny in the first place?

Yahoo! 'Bout frickin' time.

Where'dya hear this? I don't see anything on velonews or cyclingnews yet. Be interesting to hear if there's any scuttlebutt around it.

I simply did not believe it...

Glad I was corrected...oh so glad!!!

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/montreal/story/2007/09/18/qc-pound0918.html

When was Dick Pound ever funny in the first place?

1. walk up to any non-cycling person
2. tell them you know of a guy named Dick Pound
3. tell me they don't laugh.

the only better name was Dick Trickle.

Yahoo! 'Bout frickin' time.

Where'dya hear this? I don't see anything on velonews or cyclingnews yet. Be interesting to hear if there's any scuttlebutt around it.

I heard it from a conversation with a colleague at McGill this morning, it should be out in press soon.

No scuttlebutt, yet. But his position was limited time anyway. They may replace him with a scientist.

They may replace him with a scientist.

Wouldn't that be a novel idea...

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!! its about time!

He announced a few months back that he was stepping down towards the end of 07. Unfortunately he is being replaced by his right hand man.

I heard it from a conversation with a colleague at McGill this morning, it should be out in press soon.

No scuttlebutt, yet. But his position was limited time anyway. They may replace him with a scientist.

Aren't YOU a scientist?

God help us all.

when has dick pounds position ever deviated from everyone is guilty because I say so..

Hopefully his resignation has something to do with the landis verdict..

..And what the hell does 'no more Dick Pound jokes' mean? When was Dick Pound ever funny in the first place?

Dick Pound is a joke. I'm glad he has left WADA- may he lead a quite retirement well away from anything important.

Hopefully his replacement focuses more on his job than on self promotion and brings some credibility to WADA.

Can't we just use his right hand instead of his right hand man?

When was Dick Pound ever funny in the first place?

Birth certificate. Or moments soon after.

Birth certificate. Or moments soon after.

Seriously, what were his parents thinking? Was he born in that part of Canada where they speak that other language?

>>No more Dick Pound jokes :(<<

Incorrect.

http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=344950

Seriously, what were his parents thinking? Was he born in that part of Canada where they speak that other language?

Actually, he was born Penis Pound, but kids can be mean so they called him Dick.

"Doping in sports is like alcoholism. Unless people involved realize there is a problem, it's impossible to have a cure for it." The thing Pound failed to realize for nine years is that realizing there is a problem is not a solution, finding a FAIR solution that relies on ethical legal practices is the solution to eliminating (or at least trying to) doping in sport.
~Nick

Can't we just use his right hand instead of his right hand man?

We can't use his right hand because it's wrapped around a crack pipe

1. walk up to any non-cycling person
2. tell them you know of a guy named Dick Pound
3. tell me they don't laugh.

the only better name was Dick Trickle.

And this guy:

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0381097/

Well, to be fair, he was right about pro cycling and the doping, he was saying this years before the 07 Tour De Farce. He was just saying what people liked to deny or did not want to hear. The fact that every competitor to even come close to Armstrong or Landis has now been proven to cheat, or admitted to it, doesn't seem to influence the opinions of some people. Nor does the fact that many ex-US Postal riders have since been caught cheating. Barry Bonds syndrome.

The ugly work has been done, without any thanks to those responsible. But it will be a few years yet before I start believing Tour results. But, some people like pro wrestling for its entertainment value, even though they call it a sport.

Well, to be fair, he was right about pro cycling and the doping, he was saying this years before the 07 Tour De Farce. He was just saying what people liked to deny or did not want to hear. The fact that every competitor to even come close to Armstrong or Landis has now been proven to cheat, or admitted to it, doesn't seem to influence the opinions of some people. Nor does the fact that many ex-US Postal riders have since been caught cheating. Barry Bonds syndrome.

The ugly work has been done, without any thanks to those responsible. But it will be a few years yet before I start believing Tour results. But, some people like pro wrestling for its entertainment value, even though they call it a sport.

You will never, ever, ever, ever get it.

VeloNews had something intresting in there Mag this month....

How Cycling Stacks up...

Sport |1st postive |2nd postive |3rd positive |4th positive|

Baseball |10 day sus |30 day sus |60 day sus |1 year sus|


Football |4 game sus |8 game |1 season

Basketball |10 game sus |25 games |1 year |ejection from League

Hockey |20 game |60 game |ejection from League

Soccer up to and including termination

Cycling 2 year racing ban plus
2 year Protour ban

I hope this translates will when posted....I think cycling is doing great....simply catch them and suspend them...they need to put there time and effort in to Baseball, Football, Basketball and Hockey in that order....the only press should be how they are catching guy in cycling and how it is paving the way to catch other cheats in other sports....thank GOD for cycling....

:)

I don't understand the professional wrestling analogy. I hear it all the time, but how does doping, however prevalent, have anything to do with the outcome being predetermined? Why is pro cycling "turning into professional wrestling"? It's not like taking EPO magically turns you into an actor with a sordid backstory and directions on when to take a dive.

>>thank GOD for cycling<<

DocRay will never, ever, ever, ever get this.

they need to put there time and effort in to Baseball, Football, Basketball and Hockey in that order....the only press should be how they are catching guy in cycling and how it is paving the way to catch other cheats in other sports....thank GOD for cycling....
:)

Cycling is now leading the sports world in cleaning up, but that only came after some hard truths were realized. It's also an international sport, so they are considering a world standard.
No one cares about doping in football, no one will care, because the line between entertainment and sport was closed long ago in US team sports. The current average ice shift in hockey is 30 seconds, as is the time of play in football, baseball. It has to be distilled down to easy, quick bites so that shoe salesmen in Chester, Dumfukistan, can get it. Wrestling is almost perfect for this.

You are not going to see +6 minute supermen in future cycling tours, it will be closer, and more complex to follow, like soccer. Even this year, we saw fatigue like never before in races, and all races were tighter than ever. It will be back to the pre-pharmacology era of the 80s.

The other aspect is culture, and Bruyneel and Armstrong getting the heave from sponsors will improve 08 1000x over 07, as will Slipstream heading to Europe, and the T-mobile anti-doping program as well as the expulsion of Astana. Sorry, but guys like Pound catalyzed this, guys like Pcad would ban dope testing because they believe the entertainment value should exceed the sporting value. I don't get that. That's wrestling.

>>Pcad would ban dope testing because they believe the entertainment value should exceed the sporting value. <<

Actually, I'd ban dope testing in the UCI to put the pro level of the sport on the same level as my USA Cycling races. That's fair. I'm riding against dopers.

But Pcad is as clean as the driven Canadian snow, and he has the lousy results to prove it.

DocRay,
I think your missing the point of many of the other posts in this thread. Pound, as a person was shockingly absurd and worked as hard to undermine the WADA system as he to to build it up and that is why he is a joke. As head of WADA he had many responsibilities and he failed at many of the them. I feel that WADA is better off without him than with him and that the overall anti-doping effort is better served with him gone.

Your arguements fail on so many levels, You seem to argue that his methods are justified by his results. An analogy of that is claiming that some witches really were a problem in Salem. It doesn't matter to the arguements against unjust witch hunts that there were actually witches- the whole thing was a sham.

Pound may have been essentially correct about doping in cycling but his methods made him wrong. Being correct just isn't enough. Again, the hypothetical presence of real witches does not justify the travesty of the Salem Witch Hunts.

In your most recent post you are actually justifying that Pounds means are justified by the achieved ends (cleaner sport). Professional cycling isn't worth compromising ethics and justice. If that is how you truly feel then you deserve to be ignored and shouted down. If that is not what you meant then please explain.