Southern California - CHINO HILLS MTB, beginner friendly!

Well now,
all you folks that like being dirty,
or would like to see if you enjoy being dirty,
this is the ride for you!

Carbon canyon is a beginner friendly Mtb ride in chino hills.
the mileage should be 10-15 miles depending on options taken.


Saturday the 29th!
OK, now let's see who Really likes gettin' dirty!!
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Here is a MAP (http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&ll=33.9205,-117.835579&spn=0.02564,0.033002&z=15&om=1&msid=100488868531686115216.00043a73d1a3b66b006fa) of the start point/ parking area.
Enter on Lambert, and turn LEFT once in the park.
Drive to the very end and park.

I updated the placemark, use the Satellite image for a really accurate idea of where to park!!

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Meet 8:30
Ride 9:00

Should be done by noon at the very latest with a ride to 4 corners,
and a short singletrack up and back.

IN:

Drew12
Beanz
Necros
Octico & Son & Wife ( they have no names..)

Efficiency
actel188
summoner12


Maybe:

DaveSANYYZ





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Hmmm I have only gone up Northridge...

Hmmm I have only gone up Northridge...

No, you need to go DOWN northridge..
It's all about the downhill....

No, you need to go DOWN northridge..
It's all about the downhill....

Yeah....my last downhill on Telegraph I wiped out before the water crossing...

Well, Drew, I really need BEGINNERS - as in fire road type of deal and neither this Sundy nor the 29th work for me (Grand Tour and the Lighthouse Century). :o

Beginner friendly, you say???

Beginner friendly, you say???

Yes...we have no skillz.....
BTW..hows the foot?

Im a beginner not by choice!!! :D

Very colorful, thank you for asking. Getting better everyday and I can ride. :D

Not that anyone here is a real beginner - you all are experienced cyclists with a good fitness level and understanding of how a bike work. I've actually taken new riders on Telegraph and they have done fine xcept for the fitness thing. To 4 Corners and back it's 12 miles - 6 up and 6 down.

Telegraph Canyon in Chino Hills up to 4 Corners is a perfect "beginner" ride. It's a nice graded fire road. There are some dry stream crossings but they are fairly easy and there are some small climbs but with this groups fitness level they should be no problem. None of them are gnarly, rocky, rutted etc. It's a graded fire road. Only problem right now, until it rains or the next Snata Ana is heavy sand and silt.

I would recommend after reaching 4 Corners and enjoying the view coming straight back on Telegraph. It's a great, fun downhill. But if the group wants more of a challenge try Bovinan Delight to South Ridge and back to Carbon Canyon (I'm assuming the ride starts in Carbon Canyon). You can also try Sycamore to North Ridge but I would say this is more advance beginner/intermidiate stuff especially right now with the heavy silt on Northridge and ruts on Sycamore.

Have fun - it's my favorite place to ride. Herb - there is no more water (well only one small one left). It's very dry there right now.

No, you need to go DOWN northridge..
It's all about the downhill....

humm yah, no one warned me about North Ridge when I was on my singlespeed, what a BUTT KICKER

Very colorful, thank you for asking. Getting better everyday and I can ride. :D

Glad to hear it...missed ya Sat..hopefully will see you at PV!

Not that anyone here is a real beginner - you all are experienced cyclists with a good fitness level and understanding of how a bike work. I've actually taken new riders on Telegraph and they have done fine xcept for the fitness thing. To 4 Corners and back it's 12 miles - 6 up and 6 down.

Telegraph Canyon in Chino Hills up to 4 Corners is a perfect "beginner" ride. It's a nice graded fire road. There are some dry stream crossings but they are fairly easy and there are some small climbs but with this groups fitness level they should be no problem. None of them are gnarly, rocky, rutted etc. It's a graded fire road. Only problem right now, until it rains or the next Snata Ana is heavy sand and silt.

I would recommend after reaching 4 Corners and enjoying the view coming straight back on Telegraph. It's a great, fun downhill. But if the group wants more of a challenge try Bovinan Delight to South Ridge and back to Carbon Canyon (I'm assuming the ride starts in Carbon Canyon). You can also try Sycamore to North Ridge but I would say this is more advance beginner/intermidiate stuff especially right now with the heavy silt on Northridge and ruts on Sycamore.

Have fun - it's my favorite place to ride. Herb - there is no more water (well only one small one left). It's very dry there right now.


Well..I sort of agree...but what I found was I didnt know where/how to shift my weight....so on a couple of the climbs...especially the one right at 4 corners...I would stand up and then my rear wheel would spin...I had to jump off once as I lost all momentum...but it just takes some practice....
I think I have ridden up Northridge and down Sycamore...that was a bit intense...

BTW..I sort of liked the water crossings!

Telegraph Canyon in Chino Hills up to 4 Corners is a perfect "beginner" ride. It's a nice graded fire road. There are some dry stream crossings but they are fairly easy and there are some small climbs but with this groups fitness level they should be no problem. None of them are gnarly, rocky, rutted etc. It's a graded fire road. Only problem right now, until it rains or the next Snata Ana is heavy sand and silt.

I would recommend after reaching 4 Corners and enjoying the view coming straight back on Telegraph. It's a great, fun downhill. But if the group wants more of a challenge try Bovinan Delight to South Ridge and back to Carbon Canyon (I'm assuming the ride starts in Carbon Canyon). .

I like this ride, too...+1 perfect for beginners..(I'm a forever beginner)

If only I hadn't swerved to avoid that tarantula...:o

BTW..I sort of liked the water crossings!

Several years ago after the big rains, Chino Hills was closed to everyone but us bikers went back in and rode. The entire trail up to 4 Corners was an intense, technical little singletrack and talk about water crossings. I don't think I was ever able to sucessfully cross one but it was fun trying!!! I loved Chino when it was messed up and sadly the day came when the bulldozers came in and graded the trail. =sigh= all the fun stuff gone just like that.

Hopefully we will get some rain this year and the stream crossings will fill up again. Right now all are dry except one and even that is a small tickle.

OK - whether to do Northridge to Sycamore or Sycamore to Northridge. Have done it both ways many times and for some reason I prefer Northridge up and then down Sycamore. I don't mind climbing up Sycamore, it's easier then the first part of Northridge but once you hit Northridge, there is still alot of tough climbing to do, all in very heavy silt. And I frankly rather have the downhill from Telegraph then Northride but yes I like tamer things.

Now if you want to do a hairy downhill - try McDermott from Northridge. Scary! A month ago while sitting at 4 Corners I watch this guy ride by and then up McDermott. Quite a feat. He then came back down and over to 4 Corners and we all notice, at the same time his single speed! Yes he was a manly-man fer sure!!!

And yes mountain biking is much different than road riding. You really can't power the bike up hills. You have to trust your gears and your cadence. Good riders have a beautiful, smooth pedal stoke (mine needs work) and they set the bike in a lower gear and spin up the hill. It's a learned skill that is for sure.

BTW - learned Saturday (well I already knew) that you have to have some speed going up hills. I was following someone, and he came upon a slight incline covered with baby heads and slowed down. I had to scrub speed to avoid hitting him and knew immediately I was doomed. I had hope to power the bike up the hill but I hit a large baby head and the bike stopped completely. Think "Laugh In", over I went. Thankfully only the pride was hurt!

And yes mountain biking is much different than road riding. You really can't power the bike up hills.


Ture for most, but it's the only way to ride on a SS:D Full body work out to get up some of them hill, North Ridge on 2:1 ratio was burtal long. Would I do it again, you bet NOW i know how long that bugger was:p

Beginner mtb ride! Maybe for the 29th. :D

The route doesn't have a cliff on one side, right?

I've been to Chino Hills 2x. The first time we went, we used the Chino Hills entrance in the neighborhood with the steep rock road entrance (about .5mi from the paved road). We weren't sure we were in the right place b/c of all of the morning fog, so we left.

The second time we went, we went to the same entrance, parked on the street riding our bikes UP the steep road. We rode on the fire road for a bit, then got to the opening trail, where my cousin proceeded to get a flats on both tires.

We head back, and I proposed that I ride back to get the car and then pick him up. I ride back, a then truck passes me. With my cousin on the back with is bike.

Maybe one day I'll try Chino Hills again.

Beginner mtb ride! Maybe for the 29th. :D

The route doesn't have a cliff on one side, right?

one of the single tracks has an itty bitty cliff one the side

one of the single tracks has an itty bitty cliff one the side

Teeny tiny :D

But some folks could stop at 4 corners and go no further. That's still a nice ride...

Might rain on Friday:(

Maybe one day I'll try Chino Hills again.

I really recommend coming in from the Carbon Canyon side. If you don't want to pay for parking you can park on Vesuvius (sp?) off of Rose and ride up into the back side of the park. For beginners I do recommend starting inside the park.

I can do this sunday, I'm more commitment phobic about next Saturday.

Ok, I'm goin' out on a limb here and next Saturday the 29th, meet at 8:30, ride at 9:00.
Parking at Carbon Canyon entrance. I pretty sure its $5 to park, but you do get a nice
paved parking area, some bathrooms, and the trails!


Here is a MAP (http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&ll=33.9205,-117.835579&spn=0.02564,0.033002&z=15&om=1&msid=100488868531686115216.00043a73d1a3b66b006fa) of the start point/ parking area.

Beginner friendly, you say???

less technical than Santa Rosa.... :p

I really feel that anyone here can easily do Telegraph canyon, and one of the ridges.
If you like to climb a little, we will go UP north ridge, and down Telegraph.
OR, UP Telegraph, and DOWN southridge.

This is 90% fireroad, with just minor technical areas.
See, Road is endurance, Mtb is balance....

Beginner friendly, you say???

Yes.
This is one of the best Beginner rides. I know you have the endurance ( I was on the SART ride with you!)
just put a little attention to balance.

Don't be shy; run with scissors; jump in with both feet: it only hurts the first time....
:D

Yes.
This is one of the best Beginner rides. I know you have the endurance ( I was on the SART ride with you!)
just put a little attention to balance.

Don't be shy; run with scissors; jump in with both feet: it only hurts the first time....
:D

she doesn't need a beginner ride.... no sandbaggin' over there jan :p

Sorry..I am riding Lighthouse that day!

Sorry..I am riding Lighthouse that day!


oh yeah... rub it in.... :(

oh yeah... rub it in.... :(


You coulda been there...:rolleyes:

You coulda been there...:rolleyes:

yeah yeah yeah... I'll make it up to you... I promise! :p

yeah yeah yeah... I'll make it up to you... I promise! :p

uh huh...:p

uh huh...:p

oh thanks for the confidence there mister!!! :mad:

:p

Might rain on Friday:(

So this means your IN, right?

oh thanks for the confidence there mister!!! :mad:

:p

he he he:rolleyes:

sorry I'm going to ride for Pie that day...hummm warm apple pie LOL I just remember I ate 1/4 quart of vanilla ice cream at Lake Henshaw, boy did it give me the extra boost.

I thought the semi pie ride is on Sunday the 30th, rather than Saturday the 29th. Unless you're planning to ride a day before the cool kids.

Ahhhhh bummer, I can't make it on the 29th. :( Next time!

I thought the semi pie ride is on Sunday the 30th, rather than Saturday the 29th. Unless you're planning to ride a day before the cool kids.

sundays are very unpredictable for me cuz the stupid paper, but that will be my LAST sunday throwing the paper.

I really would like to do this ride, BUT I have my daughter that weekend. Hopefully there will be another planned on a weekend I can go (any 2nd or 4th weekend...hint, hint:)).

I really would like to do this ride, BUT I have my daughter that weekend. Hopefully there will be another planned on a weekend I can go (any 2nd or 4th weekend...hint, hint:)).

Ralph... you should take your daughter up to Chino for a ride sometime! Telegraph is a fire road and she'd probably really like it... there are a couple of water crossings but if I can do them, she can too! Maybe not for this ride, but you should take her!!!!

So this means your IN, right?

Rain? You know they close the park when it rains, right? And the day after, too.

If it rains (and drizzles don't count) all parks will be closed for 72 hours.

Ralph... you should take your daughter up to Chino for a ride sometime! Telegraph is a fire road and she'd probably really like it... there are a couple of water crossings but if I can do them, she can too! Maybe not for this ride, but you should take her!!!!

About two months ago I took her up to Peters Canyon Regional Park to ride our mtb's, and there must have been a hundred signs, warning that you are entering mountain lion habitat. She was so scared that we only made it a mile or so and she only wanted to get out of Dodge...NOW. Every sound that any bird made sounded like a mountain lion to her. She also doesn't have the stamina or strength to climb what to us would be even the easiest hills. She's a fast runner and very athletic, but freaks out on the bike pretty easily. Maybe we'll go out there and check it out some day this winter. Thanks.

she has better chances winning the lotto then seeing a lion on the trails.......still scary though, I won't ride some of the trails down here alone just for that reason.

I really recommend coming in from the Carbon Canyon side. If you don't want to pay for parking you can park on Vesuvius (sp?) off of Rose and ride up into the back side of the park. For beginners I do recommend starting inside the park.

If I remember correctly, we drove to the Elvinar entrance the first time, wasn't sure if were in the right place, and then actually parked at Carbon Canyon (paid for parking). At that time, there was a sign on the major street that said "Bike Parking Here" or something like that at the nearby business across the street. I recognize the photo of the entrance from Carbon Canyon.

Is that old abandoned car still in that small riverbed next to the trail?

she has better chances winning the lotto then seeing a lion on the trails.......still scary though, I won't ride some of the trails down here alone just for that reason.

I've seen lions on the trail, but haven't won the Lotto...

I think having 100 mil would be scarier....but better....


OH, SO THE COUNT IS NOW...
A BIG ZERO FOR THOSE JOINING THE RIDE.

Now, this is for all you beginner folks out there, We can change the date if you
can agree on one..

If I remember correctly, we drove to the Elvinar entrance the first time, wasn't sure if were in the right place, and then actually parked at Carbon Canyon (paid for parking). At that time, there was a sign on the major street that said "Bike Parking Here" or something like that at the nearby business across the street. I recognize the photo of the entrance from Carbon Canyon.

Is that old abandoned car still in that small riverbed next to the trail?

Yes it is. Saw it last time I was there a couple months ago.