rodtermaat
09-24-07, 08:03 PM
I have been following the posts here since Cargo bike are my favorite. I found this on the net some time back. I have the pdf files too. I so wish I had the skills. Maybe someday I will find someone to build it for me. I hope you enjoy it too.
http://picasaweb.google.com/rodtermaat/CargoBike/photo#5113942307558822258
rodtermaat
09-24-07, 08:06 PM
ok - help for the image flunky? I uploaded it to
http://picasaweb.google.com/rodtermaat/CargoBike/photo#5113942307558822258
Mr. Jim
09-24-07, 09:43 PM
You've discovered the xtracycle!
www.xtracycle.com
Seriously, these are available commercially.
rodtermaat
09-24-07, 10:09 PM
While I do like the xtracycle, I would not equate the tow. This design has the cargo area down low and 3 foot long. The xtracycle has storage on the top board and in panniers. Again, don't get me wrong the xtracycle is cool solution, but not the same. I just think it would be a cool alternative to build or have built.
Doug5150
09-25-07, 12:04 PM
While I do like the xtracycle, I would not equate the tow. This design has the cargo area down low and 3 foot long. The xtracycle has storage on the top board and in panniers. Again, don't get me wrong the xtracycle is cool solution, but not the same. I just think it would be a cool alternative to build or have built.
The practical problem with bikes that have rear-cargo areas (baskets or trailers) is that should something fall out, you're unlikely to see it and may not even hear it....
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Mr. Jim
09-25-07, 12:19 PM
While I do like the xtracycle, I would not equate the tow. This design has the cargo area down low and 3 foot long. The xtracycle has storage on the top board and in panniers. Again, don't get me wrong the xtracycle is cool solution, but not the same. I just think it would be a cool alternative to build or have built.
Sorry, didn't mean to belittle the design, just seems to be an alteration of the xtracycle design.
rodtermaat
09-25-07, 09:50 PM
True about the rear basket and not seeing your cargo. I typically use a basket on my commuter and just ordered a garment bag for work cloths. That will be a real upgrade to the grocery bag I was using. My wife requested that I at least look somewhat respectable riding to work - go figure. Someday I would like to ride a real bakfiet. I an not sure I like the 3000 price, but I have been know to make silly decisions before.
Sorry, didn't mean to belittle the design, just seems to be an alteration of the xtracycle design.
Oh, I don't think you did. Xtracycle is very cool, especially the fact that it's a retrofit that makes an MTB useful (what a concept!). But what rodtermaat posted is, I think, way cooler. I especially like the small wheels; you could use BMX wheels with 48 spokes, practically indestructible.
Rodermaat, do you have more information on this bike -- who designed it, has anyone built it, &c? Do you have more drawings? I want one!
Xtracycle is very cool, especially the fact that it's a retrofit that makes an MTB useful (what a concept!).
MTB's are one of the best candidates for conversion to utility bike, if you don't include bikes that are already designed as a citybike/utility bike. Though the stock rigid-MTB's typical tire tread and lack of utilitybike accessories is unhelpful, several other features are usually perfect: good brakes, strong wheels, strong frame/fork, heavy (i.e. somewhat flat-resistant) tires, and usually good mounting points for accessories.
I can't abide by MTB handlebars for onroad use myself, but you can put on different handlebars.
rodtermaat
09-26-07, 09:09 PM
I have 3 jpg's of slightly varying designs and 2 pdf files. Let me know and I can send them. add @gmail.com to my user and you are golden - rod
Elkhound
09-27-07, 08:11 AM
If you go to www.catoregon.org (http://www.catoregon.org) and follow the links to Human Powered Machines, you will find that they make several utility bikes. Perhaps you could submit your design to them.
Looks similar to a Burrows 8-Freight, a somewhat famous cargo bike from the UK.
http://www.bikefix.co.uk/i/art_8_freight.jpg
mrbertfixy
10-05-07, 05:18 PM
the only thing i don't like about the original design is the extra long chain. i would rather have a heavy duty trailer. i'm going to work on a three or four wheel trailer for heavy loads.
Doug5150
10-06-07, 02:36 AM
Sorry, didn't mean to belittle the design, just seems to be an alteration of the xtracycle design.
The problem with the Xtracycle is that the cargo area isn't clear--there's a big ridge in the center where the wheel has to go. Heavy loads are a lot more stable when carried low, and that's more convenient to do when the cargo area is wide open.
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Elkhound
10-09-07, 12:55 PM
the only thing i don't like about the original design is the extra long chain. i would rather have a heavy duty trailer. i'm going to work on a three or four wheel trailer for heavy loads.
Trailers bounce around, and are often difficult to navigate around corners, and going down hill have a tendancy to jack-knife.
I have an Xtracycle now, and plan to get a Big Dummy when/if it finally comes to market ("jam yesterday, jam tomorrow, but never jam today," as the White Queen said), but one think I like about the Bakfiets is having the load up front where you can see it. (This is particularly good if the load is alive.)
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