I have a cross bike which is great for getting around town and I have been wanting to put a rear rack on the back end. I have a seat post one which does fine for my rack trunk, but a no go on the shopping panniers. I think when I bought a rack in the past it came with some clamps, does anyone know if thiis is sturdy enough to load up stuff with? Or some helpful hints or brands that might be good in doing this method? I am not to concerned if it scuffs paint since it's got quite a few already.
Thanks

Yes, I use this method because my Miyata 112 does not have the eyelets. I have a Delta rack which comes with stainless clamps. REI has those. They also sell extra sets of clamps. The clamps are very tough. I regularly haul 2 panniers full of groceries, very heavy, and never had problems.

They used to sell --probably still do-- a set of large tapered washers that fit the big triangular hole in a campy-type rear dropout so you could mount a rack, fenders, etc. At the top the rack mounted to the brake bolt. The result was very strong, I never had any problem with it.

I use this rack to for my moutain bike with disc brakes. Works great, but it does make changing a flat a little harder.

http://www.oldmanmountain.com/rear_rack_page.htm

Kevin

For those who desire a front, or rear, rack then I've got good news for ya.

Visit your friendly hardware, automotive parts or farm supply store to find
this magic part........It's called a "P" clamp in the size you need.

The name is an exact discription of what this part looks like...A letter "P".

With these clamps ,the vinyl covered kind, one can simply avoid the need for
any concern about stinking eyelets!! Ya don't need'em.!!:D:D:D

Thanks for the tips:)

http://www.thetouringstore.com/TUBUS/Fit%20Solutions/FIT%20SOLUTIONS%20PAGE.htm

They sell kits so you don't have think nearly as much about the mechanics of rack attachment w/o eyelets.

I used the P clamp thingys for years and they worked great.

You can also buy little adapters which go around the neck of the seatpost tube, or on the seatpost itself, and have a small extension off them with eyelets on them.

I've got one of those, they work great. They do have to be paired with a rack that allows a little vertical adjustment though, because the eyelets end up being higher up than the ones which are on most bikes normally..

P clamps here
http://www.dealsonwheels.com/partsandaccessories/detail.aspx?id=1321821&pn=02ZX1130B&cid=631