Cyclocross - Old Surly Crosscheck Specs?

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mosquito
09-30-07, 11:39 AM
Can someone tell me what the difference between the first crosschecks and the new ones are besides the old one having 1" steer?

jasonguard
09-30-07, 08:39 PM
The first two years (blue and green paint jobs, respectively) are made with Reynolds 631 tubing. Ever since, it's been 4130, I think. Opinions vary, but I think the earliest model is a bit more prestigious.
mosquito
09-30-07, 10:27 PM
I don't get what you mean by prestigious. Can you be more specific? Less eyelets? Generally stronger or weaker?

Ziemas
09-30-07, 11:15 PM
The older ones had name brand tubing. AFAIK that is the only difference.
aballas
10-01-07, 11:24 AM
yep....what jasonguard said....

I have his old frame... :)

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j33/aballas/P9170001.jpg
aballas
10-01-07, 11:24 AM
AKAIK 631 is a bit lighter than 4130...

welds are nice too...haven't seen a newer one to compare though...
jasonguard
10-02-07, 06:50 PM
aballas, you pimped my ride!

prestigious: exerting influence by reason of high status or prestige

Basically, I was saying that the first year of the Cross Check (or any model of bike that has staying power) has become a classic. Whether it's better or not, is arguable (although, I think they were lighter w/631). But, it also derives prestige from the fact that so few were produced that first year.