View Full Version : BF SoCal recipe needs more mountain bike
efficiency
10-02-07, 09:11 PM
EDIT: My fingers slipped and I posted a one word post originally.
It has come to my attention that there aren't enough MTB rides amongst the BF crowd.
Why not?
I'm thinking of doing a beginner friendly ride in San Clemente/Rose Canyons down in San Diego. Any interest?
Indolent58
10-02-07, 09:20 PM
EDIT: My fingers slipped and I posted a one word post originally.
It has come to my attention that there aren't enough MTB rides amongst the BF crowd.
Why not?
Because mountain bikes hate us and want to kill us all.
spingineer
10-02-07, 09:41 PM
The title had the word "recipe" ... I was thinking there was food in this thread!
Tiffanie
10-02-07, 10:30 PM
Interested! :D
I am interested
But..probably a bit too far for me...
maximan1
10-02-07, 11:11 PM
I ride mountain bikes, but it's much less convinient, more chance of crashing, but it is friendlier.
Oleanshoebox
10-02-07, 11:51 PM
just got home from a night mtb ride.
might be interested in this ride but it is also a bit far for me.
big john
10-03-07, 06:55 AM
Kinda far from here, but some of us are doing a grueling mtb ride up and down Mt Wilson on Oct. 20th. I'll start a thread later.
Mo'Phat
10-03-07, 08:18 AM
Hey Mark. I'm interested...Why not?
...the reason there's not more MTB rides in SoCal is because more people plan road rides.
/obvious.
PS. Don't mind Indolent...he's still angry that his handlebars tried to take a core sample of his chest on his one and only BF MTB ride.
Mo'Phat
10-03-07, 08:20 AM
PPS...I also feel the skill differences are completely magnified on the trail. Road rides can cater to all sorts of riders, because you're still on the road. Fast climbers can have just as much fun as the tortoises and fast descenders.
However, you get an experienced trail rider bombing down a rocky single track that an inexperienced rider might have to walk down. It takes the fun out of it, I gather.
efficiency
10-03-07, 08:33 AM
Walking DOWN?! I thought you're just supposed to crash and slide/roll down.
Mo'Phat
10-03-07, 08:35 AM
...no...That's just Dan.
MacManDude
10-03-07, 08:48 AM
PPS...I also feel the skill differences are completely magnified on the trail. Road rides can cater to all sorts of riders, because you're still on the road. Fast climbers can have just as much fun as the tortoises and fast descenders.
However, you get an experienced trail rider bombing down a rocky single track that an inexperienced rider might have to walk down. It takes the fun out of it, I gather.
You just described me. My true MTB friends won't ride with me. I enjoy getting out for a trail ride several times a month (yesterday), but I will not put life and limb on the line (I can't afford to). I can climb the fire roads with the best of them, but I never saw a rock garden that I didn't want to walk. If we had a ride that was for reasonably fit but totally wussy mountain bikers, that might be fun.
STeve
DaveSANYYZ
10-03-07, 09:07 AM
...no...That's just Dan.Add me to the list. :lol:
I'm interested too! I'm kinda bummed that I didn't make Drew's Chino ride last time. Just let me know if there are any fatal-level cliffs in advance!
Crash716
10-03-07, 09:13 AM
hell i am down for some MTB...love that stuff..
Indolent58
10-03-07, 09:36 AM
...no...That's just Dan.
Jerk. I descend just fine. I fell going up not down. And I wouldn't still be mad except the MTB cackles insanely everytime I step into the garage.
ClanLee
10-03-07, 11:22 AM
After four months off the mountain bike (that's when I picked up my road bike), I did a little ride with a few friends last night. Only 8 miles total, but a nice night ride. One thing I forgot was how soft and spongy the mountain bike is compared to the road bike. Another thing that I forgot was how much slippery it was riding on loose dirt and sand. I'm hoping to continue at least once a week for the mountain bike.
Unfortunately, SD is a bit far for me and won't be able to make your ride. In the mean time, I know I won't be consistent, but I'm going to try to ride Hostetter Fire Road (Burbank) at least once a week. And you're right, we need more mountain bikes in the SoCal Forum. :D
Unfortunately, SD is a bit far for me and won't be able to make your ride. In the mean time, I know I won't be consistent, but I'm going to try to ride Hostetter Fire Road (Burbank) at least once a week. And you're right, we need more mountain bikes in the SoCal Forum. :D
Where is that?? I am in burbank....I might interested in trying that...
How technical? My mtb skillz are not much above 0
I ride 5 - 6 days a week in the Inland Empire and OC. Hoping to go do SART within the next few weeks.
ClanLee
10-03-07, 12:21 PM
Where is that?? I am in burbank....I might interested in trying that...
How technical? My mtb skillz are not much above 0
From what I've read about your rides, you should be very familiar with the area! At the top of La Tuna Canyon, just before the freeway entrance to the 210, there is a little area to park. That's the beginning of Hostetter Fire Road. It's not technical at all, it's just a climb to the top... about 1300 ft elevation gain in less than 4 miles.
Start of Hostetter Fire Road (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&time=&date=&ttype=&q=la+tuna+canyon+road+and+hostetter+fire+road,+sunland,+ca&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=40.817312,69.257812&num=10&iwloc=addr&iwstate1=saveplace)
From what I've read about your rides, you should be very familiar with the area! At the top of La Tuna Canyon, just before the freeway entrance to the 210, there is a little area to park. That's the beginning of Hostetter Fire Road. It's not technical at all, it's just a climb to the top... about 1300 ft elevation gain in less than 4 miles.
Start of Hostetter Fire Road (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&time=&date=&ttype=&q=la+tuna+canyon+road+and+hostetter+fire+road,+sunland,+ca&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=40.817312,69.257812&num=10&iwloc=addr&iwstate1=saveplace)
ok..I know that area really well....I always wanted to ride up there...never heard it referred to by than name...
thanks...
I ride 5 - 6 days a week in the Inland Empire and OC. Hoping to go do SART within the next few weeks.
I guess you can ride a mtb on the SART, but it is paved...isn't it? :)
TrevorInSoCal
10-03-07, 02:09 PM
I guess you can ride a mtb on the SART, but it is paved...isn't it? :)
Not sure if you're joking, or serious.
A smile would seem to indicate jest, but generally one uses a wink for that...
SART is one of SoCal's best mtn. biking trails.
There's 30 mi. or so of off-road singletrack, on the SART, in the San Bernardino mountains.
Chances are pretty high that I'll find myself up there this weekend...
TrevorInSoCal
10-03-07, 02:15 PM
I can climb the fire roads with the best of them, but I never saw a rock garden that I didn't want to walk. If we had a ride that was for reasonably fit but totally wussy mountain bikers, that might be fun.
STeve
We call those "road rides". ;)
Seriously, most mtn. bikers I know are bored to tears by fire road, and unless the ride involves some spectacular scenery, or awesome singletrack, we'll avoid fire-roads whenever possible.
Otherwise we might as well be riding on the road.
Not all singletrack involves putting "life and limb on the line" either. There are plenty of fun trails around that less-skilled riders can ride, and more skilled riders can still enjoy.
Though it is somewhat more difficult finding off-road rides that total newbies can ride, that will still be interesting to more experienced riders.
Not sure if you're joking, or serious.
A smile would seem to indicate jest, but generally one uses a wink for that...
SART is one of SoCal's best mtn. biking trails.
There's 30 mi. or so of off-road singletrack, on the SART, in the San Bernardino mountains.
Chances are pretty high that I'll find myself up there this weekend...
I can't believe I've lived in Rancho Cucamonga for 20 years and riding for half that and I have never ever rode SART. How crowded does this get on weekends?
merider1
10-03-07, 03:07 PM
Seriously, most mtn. bikers I know are bored to tears by fire road, and unless the ride involves some spectacular scenery, or awesome singletrack, we'll avoid fire-roads whenever possible.
Otherwise we might as well be riding on the road.
Not all singletrack involves putting "life and limb on the line" either. There are plenty of fun trails around that less-skilled riders can ride, and more skilled riders can still enjoy.
Though it is somewhat more difficult finding off-road rides that total newbies can ride, that will still be interesting to more experienced riders.
:mad: and another :mad: There are some of us, Trevor, who are chick-an sheat to ride those single tracks. I've been down one and will never go again!
Personally, I think there can be several levels of mtbke rides organized to suit all needs. And this chick-an needs a fire road, boring or not. :p
Pigtire
10-03-07, 05:01 PM
EDIT: My fingers slipped and I posted a one word post originally.
It has come to my attention that there aren't enough MTB rides amongst the BF crowd.
Why not?
I'm thinking of doing a beginner friendly ride in San Clemente/Rose Canyons down in San Diego. Any interest?
If only you are in Los Angeles... Yes, I ride MTB and if there is a BF MTB ride in town I'll join.
PlanetU
10-03-07, 05:48 PM
We try to ride Sycamore Canyon about once a week. Anyone interested, e me and I'll add you to our list!
:-)
PlanetU
10-03-07, 05:49 PM
:mad: and another :mad: There are some of us, Trevor, who are chick-an sheat to ride those single tracks. I've been down one and will never go again!
Personally, I think there can be several levels of mtbke rides organized to suit all needs. And this chick-an needs a fire road, boring or not. :p
You just have to come out and do a ride with just us girls. We'll get you feeling fine on single track!
:-)
merider1
10-03-07, 05:53 PM
You just have to come out and do a ride with just us girls. We'll get you feeling fine on single track!
:-)
Oh, no...you haven't seen me on a mtbke have you? It's really sad...really. :p
PlanetU
10-03-07, 05:55 PM
Oh, no...you haven't seen me on a mtbke have you? It's really sad...really. :p
I was sad once too...
Now I'm GLAD!!!
;-)
YOU CAN DO IT!
merider1
10-03-07, 05:59 PM
I was sad once too...
Now I'm GLAD!!!
;-)
YOU CAN DO IT!
Are you going to carry me down the single track if I freeze like a goat - like I did the last time? :p
PlanetU
10-03-07, 07:04 PM
Are you going to carry me down the single track if I freeze like a goat - like I did the last time? :p
The nice thing about Sycamore Canyon is that there are some FLAT single tracks to practice on!
:-)
DaveSANYYZ
10-03-07, 07:07 PM
The nice thing about Sycamore Canyon is that there are some FLAT single tracks to practice on!
:-)And it's also pretty flat at the top of the hills, so it provides a stable enough platform for us to give her a little kick to get her rolling. :lol:
j/k, I suck too.
big john
10-03-07, 08:38 PM
Are you going to carry me down the single track if I freeze like a goat - like I did the last time? :pWhy don't you come with us on the 20th? We'll climb 5000 feet in the first 13 miles or so, then drop down to Red Box on the road, then descend the Gabrielina Trail, 15 miles of craziness. Last time there had been storms, so the trail was in bad shape and it took 4 hours to drop 15 miles. This time there probably won't be any 30 foot wide, 2 1/2 foot deep water crossings.
roadfix
10-03-07, 08:49 PM
Why don't you come with us on the 20th? We'll climb 5000 feet in the first 13 miles or soHi John.....are you talking about climbing the Mt Wilson Toll Road and descending all the way down to JPL?
big john
10-03-07, 09:09 PM
Hi John.....are you talking about climbing the Mt Wilson Toll Road and descending all the way down to JPL? You bet! Will you be joining us? I heard the trail has been worked on and is in good shape.
It's nice to see folks getting interested in Mtb.
I ride both road and Mtb, and think I would get bored with just one since I stated riding Road
1 year ago this month!!
Damn... almost one year of going to the dark side....
Say with heavy breathing " Luke, I am your Father.."
roadfix
10-03-07, 10:12 PM
You bet! Will you be joining us? I heard the trail has been worked on and is in good shape.Holy cow!...that's a major ride! I haven't been on the Gabrielina trail since 1993. I'm gonna have to think about doing this loop. Do you access the Toll Road from Eaton Canyon? I used to ride up and through Henninger Flats but I haven't since that major landslide down below a couple of years back. :D
big john
10-03-07, 10:51 PM
Holy cow!...that's a major ride! I haven't been on the Gabrielina trail since 1993. I'm gonna have to think about doing this loop. Do you access the Toll Road from Eaton Canyon? I used to ride up and through Henninger Flats but I haven't since that major landslide down below a couple of years back. :D
From Windsor and Arroyo. Probably be just a few of us.
efficiency
10-03-07, 11:35 PM
Are you going to carry me down the single track if I freeze like a goat - like I did the last time? :p
Not all singletracks have scary drop offs like this place:
http://www.flux.utah.edu/~mike/moab/portal.big.gif
Some take nice routes through flora, like the attached.
ME this should appeal to you.... there are fun easy singletrack in OC:
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o288/bcipam/AlisoWoods008.jpg
Aliso Woods - Coyote Trail
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o288/bcipam/AlisoWoods009.jpg
Coyote
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o288/bcipam/Thereisatrailthere.jpg
Irvine Park/Banham Ranch
and here's a some nice fire road photos for you:
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o288/bcipam/RichChinoHills.jpg
Chino Hills
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o288/bcipam/Limestone121505021.jpgLimestone Canyon
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o288/bcipam/Weirride091607.jpg
Irvine Park
So when are you coming out to ride with us? ;)
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