Books, Movies, Music & Entertainment - how much did you pay for the new Radiohead album?

in case you didn't know, Radiohead is trying an experiment with the new album.

it will be available as a download - but each buyer will set their own price. even if that price is "free."

since i've never knowingly listened to Radiohead, i picked "free."

if i like the album, i'll buy other albums (and maybe even a hardcopy of this one).

anybody else?

It's hard to jump in to Radiohead at their latest album.

I would recommend listening to their first couple, then move through chronologically.

Oh, I almost forgot about this! Thanks for reminding me. :)

It's hard to jump in to Radiohead at their latest album.

I would recommend listening to their first couple, then move through chronologically.

i dunno, been enjoying it so far.

kind of a melodic cacophony.

I like it okay. I paid ten dollars for it. I don't condemn people for not paying for it, or for paying a negligible amount, but in order for this kind of experiment to succeed, it has to pay for itself. The worst is that a lot of people pledged one penny, which means that the band had to pay the credit card company to process it.

from what they've been saying, they've been making money on this. not a huge amount, mind. but still enough.

some are paying in the range of "normal" (iTunes) retail, some are paying nothing, and some are paying quite a bit more than "normal" retail.

apparently, they've had lots of folks paying "retail" who aren't even fans - because they want the experiment to succeed.

i'm treating it the way i treated Napster (back when Napster really was Napster) - if i like it, i'll buy it. and i'm leaning that way.

The worst is that a lot of people pledged one penny, which means that the band had to pay the credit card company to process it.

You know, you just have to have a little faith that they're not dumb enough to submit .01 charges to the credit card processing if they're going to lose money on it.

from what they've been saying, they've been making money on this. not a huge amount, mind. but still enough.

some are paying in the range of "normal" (iTunes) retail, some are paying nothing, and some are paying quite a bit more than "normal" retail.

apparently, they've had lots of folks paying "retail" who aren't even fans - because they want the experiment to succeed.

i'm treating it the way i treated Napster (back when Napster really was Napster) - if i like it, i'll buy it. and i'm leaning that way.

Anyone know the common cut for a band on an album? It's been a while since I've heard it but the vague recesses of my memory tell me it's in the 10 to 25 percent range.

So if they are getting an average of 2 to 5 bucks per album they're probably getting more than the record companies cut them in for. And they sleep better knowing the slimy organized crime members aren't getting their huge cut.

I think the common standard is that bands get a dollar per album sold. Obviously many exceptions abound, but that's the common amount that I've read about for a band on a major label.

And to Brillig, I understand that it seems obvious that the band would ignore those purchases that are less than the CC fee, but I'll bet all of this is automized and who exactly is going to filter out the low amounts? Given how the web site performed (as in, not very good), I doubt they want to entrust the system to determine who's money is good and who's isn't. Here's an interesting look at what people are paying and why. Some of the people who pledged nothing or a penny are so sanctimonious about it.

http://www.whatpricedidyouchoose.com/sample_comments_and_prices

And I don't get the whole idea of "If I like it, I'll pay for it." It's an excuse and justification used by people who want something without paying for it.

And I don't get the whole idea of "If I like it, I'll pay for it." It's an excuse and justification used by people who want something without paying for it.

i bought a ton of music back when Napster was still a going concern. because i was able to listen to it! i deleted plenty of stuff that i didn't like, and bought a bunch of albums based on the track (or two) i downloaded.

none of the local radio stations play Radiohead. so how am i going to decide if i like the music? and, if i don't like it and only listen to it once or twice, then never again, why should i pay for it? it's not like it's an LP that i can take to the local record shop and trade in - it's digital data. if i don't like the album, the data has no worth to me - and i have no way to recoup my loss.

and don't tell me to get satellite radio - i'm not paying a monthly fee to listen to the radio.

i bought a ton of music back when Napster was still a going concern. because i was able to listen to it! i deleted plenty of stuff that i didn't like, and bought a bunch of albums based on the track (or two) i downloaded.

none of the local radio stations play Radiohead. so how am i going to decide if i like the music? and, if i don't like it and only listen to it once or twice, then never again, why should i pay for it? it's not like it's an LP that i can take to the local record shop and trade in - it's digital data. if i don't like the album, the data has no worth to me - and i have no way to recoup my loss.

and don't tell me to get satellite radio - i'm not paying a monthly fee to listen to the radio.

First of all, do you go to restaurants, sample the dishes and then leave without paying anything if you don't like it? Do you walk into movies and then, if they weren't to your liking, leave without paying? That's not the way the market works. You make an intelligent decision as a consumer, and then you live with it. If you take a product without paying for it -- no matter if you end up liking it or not -- then you are a thief who is stealing. You can make excuses all you want and jump up and down to justify it, but you're stealing and you know it. If you don't like the system, then opt out. If you're so knowledgeable and clear on what makes up good or bad music, make your own, and listen to it all you want.

As for how do you decide if you like the music? First of all, Radiohead is not a new band. They've been around for 15 years! And also, you clearly have an internet connection, so let me introduce you to a couple hot new websites that allow you to listen to music before you buy:
www.amazon.com
www.yahoo.com
www.allmusic.com

Also, you can use this cutting edge new tool called "Google" to run a "search" on a band. This band will have a Web "site" and 99% of these sites let you "stream" their music.

And also, it's nice that you pledge, honest to goodness, to pay for music if you like it. But the fact is, the vast majority of people who are fine to take music without paying for it, are just never going to pay for it. And if you say you're one of the people who really, truly, honest-mister goes back and pays for something you've already had in your possession for awhile, then I admire you and I don't believe you.

great album. I loved Kid A, hated the two released after that. This one is great.

First of all, do you go to restaurants, sample the dishes and then leave without paying anything if you don't like it? Do you walk into movies and then, if they weren't to your liking, leave without paying? That's not the way the market works. You make an intelligent decision as a consumer, and then you live with it. If you take a product without paying for it -- no matter if you end up liking it or not -- then you are a thief who is stealing. You can make excuses all you want and jump up and down to justify it, but you're stealing and you know it. If you don't like the system, then opt out. If you're so knowledgeable and clear on what makes up good or bad music, make your own, and listen to it all you want.

As for how do you decide if you like the music? First of all, Radiohead is not a new band. They've been around for 15 years! And also, you clearly have an internet connection, so let me introduce you to a couple hot new websites that allow you to listen to music before you buy:
www.amazon.com
www.yahoo.com
www.allmusic.com

Also, you can use this cutting edge new tool called "Google" to run a "search" on a band. This band will have a Web "site" and 99% of these sites let you "stream" their music.

And also, it's nice that you pledge, honest to goodness, to pay for music if you like it. But the fact is, the vast majority of people who are fine to take music without paying for it, are just never going to pay for it. And if you say you're one of the people who really, truly, honest-mister goes back and pays for something you've already had in your possession for awhile, then I admire you and I don't believe you.


That's all you had to say.

I've heard one song off the new album. I like it. I'm going to pay $10 for the download. That's a bargain considering the listening pleasure Radiohead has provided me over the years.

First of all, do you go to restaurants, sample the dishes and then leave without paying anything if you don't like it?

i do when they give out free samples - which quite a few do. even good ones, around here.

That's not the way the market works. You make an intelligent decision as a consumer, and then you live with it. If you take a product without paying for it -- no matter if you end up liking it or not -- then you are a thief who is stealing. You can make excuses all you want and jump up and down to justify it, but you're stealing and you know it. If you don't like the system, then opt out. If you're so knowledgeable and clear on what makes up good or bad music, make your own, and listen to it all you want.

uhm, i never said i was "knowledgeable and clear on what makes up good or bad music." i'm not a musician, nor even particularly musically educated beyond a narrow focus in some classical composers and a broad experience in (English-language) folk music and country music.

As for how do you decide if you like the music?

i listen to it?

First of all, Radiohead is not a new band. They've been around for 15 years! And also, you clearly have an internet connection, so let me introduce you to a couple hot new websites that allow you to listen to music before you buy:
www.amazon.com
www.yahoo.com
www.allmusic.com

Also, you can use this cutting edge new tool called "Google" to run a "search" on a band. This band will have a Web "site" and 99% of these sites let you "stream" their music.

there's a lot of bands that have been around for along time - that doesn't mean everyone is familiar with their body of work. how many Americans are familiar with Jimmy Shand? his career spanned 63 years (and he was eventually knighted) - but i bet the vast majority of posters here have no clue who he is. i mean, sorry, i'm familiar with Katrien Delavier, Pete Seeger and Jean Redpath - but i just don't know Radiohead that well. i guess i should be drug out and shot for trying to expand the range of music i listen to.

and sure, Radiohead has a website. where did the album come from again? oh, that's right.

And also, it's nice that you pledge, honest to goodness, to pay for music if you like it. But the fact is, the vast majority of people who are fine to take music without paying for it, are just never going to pay for it. And if you say you're one of the people who really, truly, honest-mister goes back and pays for something you've already had in your possession for awhile, then I admire you and I don't believe you.

i'm sorry that you have such a poor view of humanity. just because you don't believe in something doesn't make it untrue. and the band obviously didn't expect the "vast majority" to take the music without paying for it, or they wouldn't have tried this experiment.

i've done it before, and i'll do it again. as i stated before, i bought a lot of music based on downloading back in the Napster days. i've also bought a lot after checking out CDs from the library. sure, i could just rip the discs to my computer - but i didn't. i've even checked out CDs, liked them, then bought the album from the iTMS - DRM and all.

i also say "please" and "ma'am" and help little old ladies (that i don't know) across the street. not everyone is an ass.

Music has the right to children. This is the only fact, music does not belong to us - we belong to music for music is math and math is the universal language we use ,or have the potential to employ, to explain everything around us. There is no genuine price to be tagged to music and there is not ,in at least the most sincere form of this art, an ethical question that pertains to when and what situations qualify for gratuity? FOOLS! The only price we pay is the freedom we lack as a society which is bound to our way of thinking and transient states.

First of all, do you go to restaurants, sample the dishes and then leave without paying anything if you don't like it? Do you walk into movies and then, if they weren't to your liking, leave without paying?

thats a horrible analogy braaaaaaaaaa

Whoa. Let's turn the crazy knob down from eleven.

If somebody went to Radiohead's site, and picked up the album at a price both parties agreed to, where's the problem? Radiohead is okay with their album moving a few copies for free. If they weren't, they wouldn't have configured their site to allow it.

I'm not a big Radiohead fan, but I've found a track or two that work for me recently. I decided it was time to buy one of their albums, but I had still hated OK Computer. I calculated the price in pounds sterling from $5, and paid that, plus a transaction fee. I can't find the total right now, but I think it was under $8, and I feel okay about that.

thats a horrible analogy braaaaaaaaaa

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