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dusted
10-07-07, 10:27 PM
I bought her a bike that is comfy, simple and easy to ride. (29er motobecane outcast) I cut the bars because she said that it felt really wide. I replaced the brand new tires/tube that were on it with new 35c "multi use" tires because she said it looked "beastly". I fit this bike for her better then I fit my own for me.

She has ridden a total of maybe two blocks on it at which point she tells me "Cory! I'm done!" and we walk the bikes back.

She says she's scared. I asked her what of. She says the cars. So we ride on the side walk (against my better judgement btw) Still is scared. I aske her what of she says the bike is to tall she can't reach the ground. I lower the seat enough that she can stand flat footed if she wants while on the seat (against my better judgement again). She still won't go out because she's "scared"

I say WTF M8 what the hell can she be "scared" of.


brans
10-07-07, 10:29 PM
your better judgment should tell you she just doesn't want to ride a bike, and she's being nice about it.

but hey, thats just MY better judgment.

kjohnnytarr
10-07-07, 10:32 PM
Get a pedicab.


Philatio
10-07-07, 10:33 PM
I've got essentially the exact same problem. I guess some people aren't bike people.

dusted
10-07-07, 10:33 PM
your better judgment should tell you she just doesn't want to ride a bike, and she's being nice about it.

but hey, thats just MY better judgment.

lol yeah well I suffer to do crap I hate with her. So should she after all that's the foundation of a healthy relationship right :D

brand new 29er will trade for girl who like to ride bikes!!! or just a nice track frame

gehrkead
10-07-07, 10:36 PM
tandem?

str8flexed
10-07-07, 10:37 PM
lawl tandem, yeah. i guess.

my ex was the same way. she rode like 5 feet and said the saddle was too high (it in fact, was not). so i lowered it way below where it should've been and then she complained it hurt her "between the legs". then that was that. it was apparent she was just scared.. or something.. and she was not open to trying new things.

dusted
10-07-07, 10:38 PM
tandem?

more like pedicab :D

I think it's the whole "active" part of it, she doesn't really do anything.

It really does kind of piss me off sense first off she said she would ride it if I bought it, and I do all kinds of ****ake with her that I hate doing just because it's stuff she enjoys.

mathletics
10-07-07, 10:39 PM
+1 on you not taking the hint. Seriously though, why the **** would you start a non-cyclist on a 29er? I'm absolutely baffled. As I've said in another thread, if you want to get your girl riding, you have to start with something easy like a cruiser. Sloping top tube so standover isn't an issue, comfortable upright riding position, and she can ride in a skirt so she doesn't have to put on "biking clothes." (I don't know about the clothes thing, but my girlfriend apparently dresses differently if we're walking or riding.) The number one thing you need to keep in mind is that the whole experience has to be NO PRESSURE. If you're pushing her at all, it'll blow up in your face.

dusted
10-07-07, 10:44 PM
+1 on you not taking the hint. Seriously though, why the **** would you start a non-cyclist on a 29er? I'm absolutely baffled. As I've said in another thread, if you want to get your girl riding, you have to start with something easy like a cruiser. Sloping top tube so standover isn't an issue, comfortable upright riding position, and she can ride in a skirt so she doesn't have to put on "biking clothes." (I don't know about the clothes thing, but my girlfriend apparently dresses differently if we're walking or riding.) The number one thing you need to keep in mind is that the whole experience has to be NO PRESSURE. If you're pushing her at all, it'll blow up in your face.

She picked it out that's what gets me. I was all about getting a cruiser or hybrid or anything really. I just wanted it to be simple and under 400$

Landgolier
10-07-07, 10:47 PM
new GF time.

dusted
10-07-07, 10:49 PM
new GF time.

maybe I just need to get a "spare" that rides or isn't afraid to try new stuff

fixedup
10-07-07, 10:50 PM
this thread makes me happy my gf races road bikes.

dusted
10-07-07, 10:53 PM
this thread makes me happy my gf races road bikes.

go be positive in someone elses thread this space is reserved for those of us tied to bikeless broads.

mathletics
10-07-07, 10:53 PM
My gf and I both want to point out that it's both healthy and a good idea for you to have separate hobbies. If this is an issue of limited transportation, it's new girlfriend time. However, if you're just trying to get her to share hobbies with you, maybe this isn't the one.

dusted
10-07-07, 11:03 PM
we have no common interests though. I have tried getting her into a ton of stuff everything from tennis to board games (seriously it was kinda sad) and she just flat out doesn't want to do anything that doesn't involve shopping clubbing or going to a damn play. I'm starting to lean towards new GF time.

JunkyardWarrior
10-07-07, 11:07 PM
time for a new gf

Fishy
10-07-07, 11:09 PM
Plan A - Find a rail trail. Sell the 29er and get her a Sirrus or 7.2 FX WSD or any other sporty hybrid that will be kinder on her newbie legs and ass. If that doesn't work...

Plan B - Marry her.

You'll start to appreciate riding alone after a year or two.

mathletics
10-07-07, 11:12 PM
Yeah, seriously, she sounds like a total ****ing bummer.

dusted
10-07-07, 11:13 PM
Plan A - Find a rail trail. Sell the 29er and get her a Sirrus or 7.2 FX WSD or any other sporty hybrid that will be kinder on her newbie legs and ass. If that doesn't work...

Plan B - Marry her.

You'll start to appreciate riding alone after a year or two.

I el O eled

dusted
10-07-07, 11:16 PM
I can't sit here and bash on her though. I mean I have been with her for almost 2 years and we live together so something must work since we don't fight. But still she can be a real drag.

JunkyardWarrior
10-07-07, 11:29 PM
buy some panniers and tell her she can go shopping with it

kjohnnytarr
10-07-07, 11:30 PM
I used to want to find a girl that wanted to rock-climb, shoot pool, etc with me. Then I was like, "wait, this is my refuge time, when I get to get drunk and sweat and not worry about looking good or catering to other people." No WAY any GF is invading that.

mathletics
10-07-07, 11:30 PM
I can't sit here and bash on her though. I mean I have been with her for almost 2 years and we live together so something must work since we don't fight. But still she can be a real drag.<br><br>

This thread is definitely going deep into "private conversation with a close friend" territory, so it's good that you're backing off. I will say, however, that if you never fight, that might be just as bad a sign as fighting all the time. Conflict can be a catalyst for positive change. <br><br>

Think about it.

Marrock
10-08-07, 12:20 AM
Hells, I got my girlfriend an adult trike, that way she doesn't have to worry about her feet reacing the ground or even taking them off the pedals when she stops.

Can't do any trail hopping with it and I'm still working on getting her off the sidewalk, but at least she's riding instead of letting her ass get wider in front of the computer.

And if she starts talking too much I just pull away and leaver her yammering in the dust.

gehrkead
10-08-07, 12:25 AM
Can't do any trail hopping with it and I'm still working on getting her off the sidewalk, but at least she's riding instead of letting her ass get wider in front of the computer.



OH SNAP!!!

Retem
10-08-07, 12:40 AM
lol yeah well I suffer to do crap I hate with her. So should she after all that's the foundation of a healthy relationship right :D
Wrong in so many ways. Knock it off and leave her alone. Having your own independent hobbies is healthy. I'm sure you can find things you both like. Obviously this isn't it.
Gaaa, why do people think that being in a good relationship means you like all the same things?
Coming from someone who has been in a working relationship for 7 years. Get off it. If you leave her alone about it she may eventually gain some interest if she's not pushed.

(P.S. This is Retem's Girl)


switch!

god I have answered at least 5 or so of these recently and it is all the same so I let my girl speak for me it really is the truth I harassed her for months and weeks about riding bike she got a cruiser she liked the paint job she rode it once! she sold it as I was completing a bike I was building for her to her specifications piece by piece she still hardly rode it
so I tell her tales of the wonderful wildlife along the local bike way and she is turned on and rides with me more than ever now

get what I mean

doofo
10-08-07, 12:42 AM
you dont want her to ride with you

shell be slow and wobbly and maybe even dangerous

who wants to ride with someone like that
?

helloamerican
10-08-07, 02:09 AM
i think the answer is to buy her another bike, or 2... sack up and throw some money at it

LóFarkas
10-08-07, 02:16 AM
Prolly not the biking kinda girl...
Ask her if she feels like trying a tandem. Then don't buy one, rent one for a day. If she trusts you as a biker enough not to be afraid in the back, it might work. At least she can't drop behind on a tandem:)

/// I just recently took a non-biker girl on a 25miler on a tandem and she quite liked it. Plus it turns out tandems handle relatively well for their size and weight. Not as truck-like and unstable as I expected.

audioel
10-08-07, 04:16 AM
I got my (now) wife into cycling by being patient and not putting any pressure on her. I got her a bike that was sized appropriately for her (she's 5'3"), tuned it up, and started by riding with her on short rides around our neighborhood, staying on quiet residential streets. Later on, we graduated to riding to the gym (about 2 miles), and taking longer rides on a MUP. Later on, she told me she wanted something a little more "sporty" than a small mountainbike, so i built her up a Miyata mixte that she picked out. She's done a few 20mi rides with me now, and did a 35mi charity ride back in March. She just started commuting twice a week to work (16mi round trip), and feels a lot more confident and secure on her bike.

I never pressured her, I gave her opportunities to make up her own mind about stuff, and was very patient with MY expectations of her ability/confidence.

When I ride with her, I do not leave her in the dust and haul ass. And if she wants to ride on the sidewalk, that's fine - I let her.

She will probably never join me on fast 50-60 mi rides on weekends, or have her own fixed gear, but I tried to enable her to find her OWN enjoyment of cycling, as opposed to forcing mine on her.

But then again, my last GF was a pain in the ass and a total lump who would whine about walking more than a few blocks. :)

So - no pressure, be NICE, be realistic in your expectations. And if you don't think **** will work out, DTB, and get out. Plenty of girls out there LOVE cycling.

why2not
10-08-07, 06:31 AM
@ OP
Ride more. Ride when you would otherwise be doing "her" stuff. Ride whenever you're not at work. When she realizes that she never sees you, she'll have a choice, either ride with you or leave you. You win either way.

blickblocks
10-08-07, 06:46 AM
Is this for actual transport or recreational cycling? When you start wasting a lot of time by walking everywhere, I think anyone will try to find something faster.

By the way supposedly cycling is safer than walking. Well, the road is safer than the sidewalk, so that's assuming bikes on the road and pedestrians on the sidewalk.

dirtyphotons
10-08-07, 07:09 AM
try getting into something she likes to do.

Tunnelrat81
10-08-07, 07:34 AM
try getting into something she likes to do.

Agreed. And remember that 'getting into something' is far different than simply 'doing something.' Getting into it means engaging and looking for real enjoyment in it, in the way you'd want her to engage in cycling with you. It's not easy, but THAT is what relationships are built on.

-J

ryand
10-08-07, 07:54 AM
You can't force her to ride it.

With my girlfriend, she had an ill fitting bike that her dad found. She liked cruising around, so I built her a SS that fit her. She really liked it and asked for another bike, so I got her something with gears. She signed up for a 150 mile ride with me and wants me to get a trainer for at home. Then she came to a cyclocross race and asked for a CX bike.

She is not in the same shape I am in. Day 1 of the 150 mile weekend, she kept a good pace. Day 2, she was sore, so I rode her pace and didn't forcer her to be uncomfortable (but let the other guys go on at their pace). Now she wants to do the same ride again next year and her goal is to do it faster. (This year her goal was to not walk the bike at all, and she didn't.)

Basically, you have the right step one. Get her a bike that fits her. (I'm assuming this fits her properly and you know how to fit a bike)

Step two is to let her get into it on her own. Show her little things and invite her for a cruise around town at night (less traffic, easier to be relaxed). If she likes going on a cruise around the neighborhood, invite her on a bike date. Ride your bikes to dinner and a movie or something. If she likes riding with you on little cute things, she will get more into it.

Also, ask questions when you get home. How do your hands feel? Knees? Back? Neck? Butt / lady parts (different saddles work wonders!).

If her hands hurt, gloves + adjustments.
(She might not want to wear gloves at first, but after she rides with them, she might appreciate it)

If anything else hurts, take her to a bike shop and ask about a fitting.

Good luck, but don't force it!

And getting into her hobbies a little bit can't hurt. But don't force yourself into them either. Try them out. And like it was said earlier IT IS HEALTHY TO LIKE DIFFERENT THINGS.

joshuastar
10-08-07, 07:54 AM
Wrong in so many ways. Knock it off and leave her alone. Having your own independent hobbies is healthy. I'm sure you can find things you both like. Obviously this isn't it.
Gaaa, why do people think that being in a good relationship means you like all the same things?
Coming from someone who has been in a working relationship for 7 years. Get off it. If you leave her alone about it she may eventually gain some interest if she's not pushed.

(P.S. This is Retem's Girl)


switch!

god I have answered at least 5 or so of these recently and it is all the same so I let my girl speak for me it really is the truth I harassed her for months and weeks about riding bike she got a cruiser she liked the paint job she rode it once! she sold it as I was completing a bike I was building for her to her specifications piece by piece she still hardly rode it
so I tell her tales of the wonderful wildlife along the local bike way and she is turned on and rides with me more than ever now

get what I mean




listen to these people, op. they know what's up.

the girl that's now my wife didn't want anything to do with bikes at first. so, like others have said, the first time she expressed even sort of an interest in riding, i jumped on it, got her a good first bike and took it easy with her.

she eventually wanted a fixed gear, so now she has a pretty mixte and wants to ride with me any time she can, which isn't much these days.

but it's the thought that counts.


oh, and btw, don't ever drop her while you ride. ever. that's dumb advice.

piwonka
10-08-07, 08:07 AM
just remember, no matter how slow she is, do not drop your ladyfriend on a ride.

JunkyardWarrior
10-08-07, 08:28 AM
Is there an ice cream place within riding distance?. Ever hear of shakespear in the park? Try riding to do something she likes.

mvillan
10-08-07, 08:40 AM
my GF went from a slow bulky cruiser to a nice ss bike that I painted for her and then I gave her my wheel set and now she rides fixed.

Things that I've learned: you can't push girls for because they want to do things their own way. This applies as to many things but in bikes; speed, perceived danger (even though its perceived), FG riding, etc, etc
my GF already road her bike as a main source of transportation, and I really don't think I would have worked out so well if she drove her car everywhere but, that at least got her into thinking about cycling.
She is artsy and I try to be apart of her projects so we can do things together. As far as me working on bikes all the time, she just knows that there are more interesting things to watch or do and stays away; unless she needs a flat fixed or whatever.. haha

One time we went out to a friend's house for a pool party and I asked her of she could handle 10 miles. she said sure, and we set out as a group. She was not expecting the reality of ten miles, to her, it turned into forever and there was no water around. So I gave her the water I had on reserve, and she toughed it out. We of course got a ride back later that night. But I don't think she try anything long distance (relative to each person) for a while.

anyways, at least now she won't touch her cruiser, she now owns a 3 speed and the FG and enjoys riding them both.

I would advise against just giving your girlfriend a $400 bike, not because of the cost but because building one up would turn into a good project between the both of you.

humancongereel
10-08-07, 09:18 AM
I bought her a bike that is comfy, simple and easy to ride. (29er motobecane outcast) I cut the bars because she said that it felt really wide. I replaced the brand new tires/tube that were on it with new 35c "multi use" tires because she said it looked "beastly". I fit this bike for her better then I fit my own for me.

She has ridden a total of maybe two blocks on it at which point she tells me "Cory! I'm done!" and we walk the bikes back.

She says she's scared. I asked her what of. She says the cars. So we ride on the side walk (against my better judgement btw) Still is scared. I aske her what of she says the bike is to tall she can't reach the ground. I lower the seat enough that she can stand flat footed if she wants while on the seat (against my better judgement again). She still won't go out because she's "scared"

I say WTF M8 what the hell can she be "scared" of.

i could never in a million years deal with that.

krash
10-08-07, 09:53 AM
Interesting thread. You know some people just don't like to ride bikes. Big deal. I've been married 15 years now and I have friends with spouses, girlfriends etc. who ride or don't ride. When we were first married my wife would ride with me sometimes, and then a few years ago she'd join me with a group sometimes but basically she doesn't like to ride and I do.

I wouldn't spend another nickel or millisecond trying to get her to ride. Don't sell the bike. Just drop it. Here's some insight that may not be super intuitive.

1. Girls who ride bikes, and like to ride, may very well be more fit and strong than you. They may not be very impressed that you can ride or how strong and fit and etc. you are. You want your GF to have some respect for you, and even be impressed. Often times when your girl wants to go ride with you, mostly it's about proving to herself how tough you are, then once that's over with, she's not really interested anymore. But if she's fit, strong and can ride anything you can ride, then you know, you probably need a different hobby. She will get bored with you easily.

2. Most people don't understand what it means to fit correctly on a bicycle and don't want to learn. If they don't fit on the bike, they will never like to ride it. For example, some folks think that if they can't put both feet flat on the ground with their knees slightly bent while on the saddle, then the saddle is too high. If you lower the saddle for them, then their weight is going to be heavily on the saddle and they will be very uncomfortable on the bike. It's a circular problem. Unless they are motivated to ride enough to put up with some discomfort and a learning experience for a while, they are not going to like cyling.

3. Some people just don't understand cycling, the point, the reason we do it, etc. It's just not their thing. It's not a matter of a lack of exposure, or any other thing you can cure or teach. It's just the way it is. You know some folks get on a bike and are instantly hooked, and some can take it or leave it. The take it or leave it people will eventually leave it. It's the same with a lot of things, most sports. Sometimes it takes years to figure out it's not for you, but sometimes it's instantaneous. Just leave it alone.

I could go on and on about the wisdom of how to have a long term relationship but there's no point on this forum. I think trying to convince people to ride a bike when they don't take to it immediately is a fool's errand. Give it up.

crushkilldstroy
10-08-07, 10:04 AM
I think you should just shoot her. Or marry her. Or something in between.

Don't force her to ride though. Nobody ends up happy.

dijos
10-08-07, 10:21 AM
Ok, so my wife wants to ride with me, and I have a good time with her, BUT remember:

Your idea of a ride and hers are probably different. My love wants to look at houses, look at people, stop and look at the water, and talk about all of these things.
I either run errands on my bike, or try to crack a 15-20 mile loop when I have a clear hour to ride.

kemmer
10-08-07, 11:31 AM
The number one thing you need to keep in mind is that the whole experience has to be NO PRESSURE. If you're pushing her at all, it'll blow up in your face.
<bad joke, sorry>

Seriously though, if she's scared find a place/bike/situation that makes her feel safe and let her work up to the more challenging stuff. Problem solved. (if that's actually the problem). I don't think a tandem is the solution for someone who is scared, being on a tandem is weird for the stoker cause they have no control and don't always know what's going on. Try renting one before dropping any coin on the idea.

IROeunuch
10-08-07, 11:35 AM
Is there an ice cream place within riding distance?.

is she a chubster? maybe thats why you want her to ride?

dusted
10-08-07, 11:43 AM
Thanks for all the suggestions, I think I may have been pushing her a little too hard but I'm really getting sick of not doing anything. I'm gonna sit down and have a good ole fashion heart to heart and I'm going make sure I use all my Dr. Phil words.

Hoshnasi
10-08-07, 11:53 AM
You can't force her to ride it.

With my girlfriend, she had an ill fitting bike that her dad found. She liked cruising around, so I built her a SS that fit her. She really liked it and asked for another bike, so I got her something with gears. She signed up for a 150 mile ride with me and wants me to get a trainer for at home. Then she came to a cyclocross race and asked for a CX bike.

She is not in the same shape I am in. Day 1 of the 150 mile weekend, she kept a good pace. Day 2, she was sore, so I rode her pace and didn't forcer her to be uncomfortable (but let the other guys go on at their pace). Now she wants to do the same ride again next year and her goal is to do it faster. (This year her goal was to not walk the bike at all, and she didn't.)

Basically, you have the right step one. Get her a bike that fits her. (I'm assuming this fits her properly and you know how to fit a bike)

Step two is to let her get into it on her own. Show her little things and invite her for a cruise around town at night (less traffic, easier to be relaxed). If she likes going on a cruise around the neighborhood, invite her on a bike date. Ride your bikes to dinner and a movie or something. If she likes riding with you on little cute things, she will get more into it.

Also, ask questions when you get home. How do your hands feel? Knees? Back? Neck? Butt / lady parts (different saddles work wonders!).

If her hands hurt, gloves + adjustments.
(She might not want to wear gloves at first, but after she rides with them, she might appreciate it)

If anything else hurts, take her to a bike shop and ask about a fitting.

Good luck, but don't force it!

And getting into her hobbies a little bit can't hurt. But don't force yourself into them either. Try them out. And like it was said earlier IT IS HEALTHY TO LIKE DIFFERENT THINGS.

^^ Listen to this man. I was getting more in to road biking and my fiance liked the idea of riding the river path with me, so I bought her a cruiser. It slow and the pace is grueling, but she likes it. Now that she has gotten stronger she has talked about getting "Something faster". I have since switched to riding my fixie almost entirely when I am with her. So I started talking about a single speed. She is intrigued.

I think the best path is use the bike as the transport method. Movie, food, short trips to Target (her favorite) all done on the bikes.

I think it helps too that she is Chinese and her family is from Vietnam. I get cred from her fam for riding. Since she is a noob I think she felt pressure to ride :P

a b seize
10-08-07, 11:53 AM
Wrong in so many ways. Knock it off and leave her alone. Having your own independent hobbies is healthy. I'm sure you can find things you both like. Obviously this isn't it.
Gaaa, why do people think that being in a good relationship means you like all the same things?
Coming from someone who has been in a working relationship for 7 years. Get off it. If you leave her alone about it she may eventually gain some interest if she's not pushed.
(P.S. This is Retem's Girl)
switch!
god I have answered at least 5 or so of these recently and it is all the same so I let my girl speak for me it really is the truth I harassed her for months and weeks about riding bike she got a cruiser she liked the paint job she rode it once! she sold it as I was completing a bike I was building for her to her specifications piece by piece she still hardly rode it
so I tell her tales of the wonderful wildlife along the local bike way and she is turned on and rides with me more than ever now
get what I mean

i was sooooo confused when i thought retem was using punctuation.

op, you should get one of these for her:
http://www.bikesonline.nl/files/Trailer-klein.jpg

but seriously, it sounds like she just doesn't want to ride. and as somebody pointed out, your idea of riding and hers would be very different, it may not even be fun to ride with her after a while. keep that time for yourself instead of pushing her into it.

sorsha6
10-08-07, 12:01 PM
OP: you two have nothing in common? and you live together? yikes!

listen to what everyone says and don't pressure her. instead go on bike rides and tell her what a great time you had, things you saw, etc. i'd think that would be much more encouraging.

as a side note, an ex of mine would never bike ride with me because she was "embarassed" at how out of shape she was and didn't want me to see her having a hard time (yes, she had confidence issues!).