Asia - Hong Kong is a place that the government does not encourage cycling

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Amuro Lee
10-09-07, 06:43 AM
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http://www.td.gov.hk/UtilityManager/Publication/upload/cyclingstudy.pdf

P.25
Promoting Cycling
This is the act of actively pursuing a policy of getting more people to take up cycling or of existing cyclists to cycle more. The main objective of promoting cycling is to improve health and to gain environmental benefits by reducing the amount of motorised traffic. In Hong Kong the environmental benefits of promoting cycling will be minimal because there are very few people to switch from cars to bicycles due to the low levels of car ownership and high quality of public transport. The promotion of cycling overseas is often allied to other issues such as pedestrianisation and traffic calming.
The promotion of cycling is an overt act and is active rather than passive or merely reactive and must include some of the assistance issues discussed above if it is to be safe and successful.

P.16
Review of standard justifications for Promoting Cycling

Justifications for Promoting Cycling
(From UK National Cycling Strategy)
1. Health - cycling can improve health by lowering the risk of heart disease, shedding excess weight and increasing fitness. Tests have shown that after 4 to 5 months of regular cycling, aerobic fitness improves by an average of 13% and body fat falls by an average of two to three Kg. Regular exercise reduces stress and contributes to mental well being.
2. Environment - increasing cycling benefits the environment by cutting carbon dioxide emissions and reducing noise.
3. Education - the establishment of safer routes to schools of road safety issues and improve of what schools, colleges and universities are doing to provide facilities for cyclists forms a valuable part of the overall picture.
4. Access to Employment - by making it easier for people to get to work by bicycle employers increase the potential labour force available to them.
5. Sustainable Tourism - The development of more widespread cycle routes will enhance access to the countryside and open up new opportunities for tourism. Rural economies will benefit from the increase in passing trade.

Comments in Relation to Hong Kong
1. The British Medical Association concluded that for the UK, the overall health benefits injury to individual cyclists. No similar study has been done for Hong Kong but since the majority of additional cycling which would take place would be in the urban areas of Hong Kong Island and Kowloon, one would need to be very certain of the benefits before undertaking a programme of promotion in these areas based on health benefits alone.
2. There seems to be no circumstance in which increases in the level of cycling in the urban areas would reduce traffic congestion in Hong Kong. This is because, unlike other developed economies, Hong Kong has a very low level of car ownership and a very high level of public transport usage. In practice due to the need for traffic calming in order to introduce on-street cycling facilities there would be a tendency for traffic congestion to increase which could contradict the environmental aims.
3. This is unlikely to be applicable to Hong Kong since public transport and private coaches are widely used to take children to and from school. In any event routes would need to be in place first and the underlying safely problems resolved.
4. It is unlikely that given the generally affordable public transport fares and high frequency of service that there are many employers who cannot find workers and at this point in time there is currently ample labour available in Hong Kong.
5. It is agreed that this is applicable to Hong Kong and is currently being pursued under the cycle track studies for the New Territories. (see para. 4.4.4.1)


bikevic
06-28-08, 05:00 AM
hk is the worst city to ride bicycle

Amuro Lee
06-30-08, 01:37 PM
hk is the worst city to ride bicycle


KrisPistofferson
06-30-08, 01:40 PM
Gundams FTW!

ebow3d
07-02-08, 09:42 AM
hk is the worst city to ride bicycle

As I may be relocating there soon, may I ask why is it so bad for cycling in HK?

bikevic
07-05-08, 08:09 AM
hk is one of the most densely populated area. everywhere has traffic congestion

there is no place for you to ride bike and no one ride on road too.
dont go to hk if you want to ride.

Amuro Lee
07-07-08, 04:40 PM
I think the worst thing is, the drivers here do not repect cyclists at all, they don't think cyclists also have the right to share the road. :(

ebow3d
07-29-08, 02:08 AM
Is there anyone that actually cycles to work in Wanchai?

bikevic
08-04-08, 08:45 PM
no one ride to work in hk

ebow3d
08-12-08, 05:24 AM
Oh well, mtr it is then.

JonnyHK
09-18-08, 11:36 PM
Is there anyone that actually cycles to work in Wanchai?

I know a couple of people who cycle to work, but it is very rare. The people I know are crazy gweilos from Europe who are used to it.

My cycling in HK is weekend morning training sessions on the roads on the southside of HK Island. Traffic is bad, but not by HK standards. Biggest problem is narrow roads and big buses.

osmanlee815
10-14-08, 10:24 AM
let me say something.
l ive in HK. Honestly, in Hk, there are road( bicycles only), that covered at NT area. But, in so area, many people(non- cyclists) occupied the bike track, and they are NASTY. This is the major problem. Say, some parts, u NEVER can ride the speed over 35KM/ hr due to NSATY guys. there are only few guys would give u a way. becuase they think cyling is nonsense, and u wont ride fast. I think they are foolish. A road bike usually ride at leats 30KM/hr. It likes a bus' speed in HK.


BUT, some section--both bike only and gerneral road are suitable for cycling. A small area--called Sai Kung, most drivers will not ahead u. They usaully a Sai Kung residents and most are natives(non-Chinese).

@ week i ride for 200KM in HK. @ trip took 50KM. In 50KM, there is only 8-10KM that is NASTY, becos of Nasty GUYS.


Since I am not live in town in HK, cycling is still fine. Riding on road is also rated "acceptable".
I usally ride near Chinese border. so there are not many cars. But the Big long Trucks normally will not cross ahead. BUT U HAVE to beware of it.

p.s. cycling in HK, U MUST ride only on the specialized bicycle trail or ROAD(not expressway). Otherwise, crops will charge u !

JonnyHK
10-14-08, 07:51 PM
The bike paths in the busy areas are crazy on the public holidays!

Everyone gets out for a cycle (can't really complain about that), but huge numbers of them have zero road sense and near zero cycling ability. It is absolute carnage with people crashing into oncoming bikes, groups stopping in odd places and blocking the path, beginners wobbling around dangerously.

I was on the path beside the Shing Mun River (Shatin) last Tuesday and I almost cleaned up a bunch of people with no clue. They are SO lucky I have good brakes and the experience to use them.

Garfield Cat
10-20-08, 03:42 PM
Then how about taking a car into Mainland China over the weekend and have a nice long ride there? Are there good paved roads in Mainland China? Is there good transportation like a train where a rider may take the bike and ride Saturday and Sunday to come back Sunday evening?

H23Nutcase
10-20-08, 10:14 PM
because they bad-mouthed mainland Chinese as being a low grade 3rd world country by using bicycle as one of the main source for transportation. So they've decided to remain classy and refuse to ride a bicycle because it makes them look like a Chinese mainlander themselves.

Whether it is a black bicycle or a white bicycle, if it can get me from point A to point B efficiently, then it is good mode of transportation.


H23NC,




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http://www.td.gov.hk/UtilityManager/Publication/upload/cyclingstudy.pdf

P.25
Promoting Cycling
This is the act of actively pursuing a policy of getting more people to take up cycling or of existing cyclists to cycle more. The main objective of promoting cycling is to improve health and to gain environmental benefits by reducing the amount of motorised traffic. In Hong Kong the environmental benefits of promoting cycling will be minimal because there are very few people to switch from cars to bicycles due to the low levels of car ownership and high quality of public transport. The promotion of cycling overseas is often allied to other issues such as pedestrianisation and traffic calming.
The promotion of cycling is an overt act and is active rather than passive or merely reactive and must include some of the assistance issues discussed above if it is to be safe and successful.

P.16
Review of standard justifications for Promoting Cycling

Justifications for Promoting Cycling
(From UK National Cycling Strategy)
1. Health - cycling can improve health by lowering the risk of heart disease, shedding excess weight and increasing fitness. Tests have shown that after 4 to 5 months of regular cycling, aerobic fitness improves by an average of 13% and body fat falls by an average of two to three Kg. Regular exercise reduces stress and contributes to mental well being.
2. Environment - increasing cycling benefits the environment by cutting carbon dioxide emissions and reducing noise.
3. Education - the establishment of safer routes to schools of road safety issues and improve of what schools, colleges and universities are doing to provide facilities for cyclists forms a valuable part of the overall picture.
4. Access to Employment - by making it easier for people to get to work by bicycle employers increase the potential labour force available to them.
5. Sustainable Tourism - The development of more widespread cycle routes will enhance access to the countryside and open up new opportunities for tourism. Rural economies will benefit from the increase in passing trade.

Comments in Relation to Hong Kong
1. The British Medical Association concluded that for the UK, the overall health benefits injury to individual cyclists. No similar study has been done for Hong Kong but since the majority of additional cycling which would take place would be in the urban areas of Hong Kong Island and Kowloon, one would need to be very certain of the benefits before undertaking a programme of promotion in these areas based on health benefits alone.
2. There seems to be no circumstance in which increases in the level of cycling in the urban areas would reduce traffic congestion in Hong Kong. This is because, unlike other developed economies, Hong Kong has a very low level of car ownership and a very high level of public transport usage. In practice due to the need for traffic calming in order to introduce on-street cycling facilities there would be a tendency for traffic congestion to increase which could contradict the environmental aims.
3. This is unlikely to be applicable to Hong Kong since public transport and private coaches are widely used to take children to and from school. In any event routes would need to be in place first and the underlying safely problems resolved.
4. It is unlikely that given the generally affordable public transport fares and high frequency of service that there are many employers who cannot find workers and at this point in time there is currently ample labour available in Hong Kong.
5. It is agreed that this is applicable to Hong Kong and is currently being pursued under the cycle track studies for the New Territories. (see para. 4.4.4.1)

JonnyHK
01-03-09, 08:09 PM
I'm now riding to and from work (Causeway Bay) on an old road bike that I fixed up to be single speed. All going well so far. The locals think I'm nuts.

Also rode all the way around the Island today (as much as is possible on the roads that loop around) and it was not as far as I thought. It is not possible to go down some areas as the road is one way in and one way out, so my loop was only 39km.

kroniclove
01-11-09, 11:58 PM
Hey,

I recently moved here to HK and currently living on HK island. Ive been itching to get a road bike but don't know anyone here that rides. if you guys do meet up or would like to train together, that would be a ton of fun.

lets try to plan something out. ive seen a lot of ppl riding road bikes around the peak area.

vince

JonnyHK
01-12-09, 03:25 AM
Thanks for the PM Kroniclove - we'll get you riding up and down the Peak! (down being much more fun than up!)

The Peak - http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=1632593&l=a1032&id=582411512

Shek-O - http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#/photo.php?pid=1636457&id=582411512
and the painful data - http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=1636456&l=4501f&id=582411512

Around the whole island - http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=1679885&l=5f0ae&id=582411512

sjthursday
09-25-09, 06:08 AM
maybe you wanna do Lantau. Tung Chung to Disney is flat and 18kms