Road Bike Racing - a little dense here...Landis and the lie-detector

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Big R
10-10-07, 06:37 PM
Sorry if this has been addressed, and I understand reliability, etc....but--has Floyd stepped up and said "give me a polygraph"?

If not...why?

Regardless of evidentiary reliabilty, etc...wouldn't most innocent people stand up and offer to take the test?

asgelle
10-10-07, 06:40 PM
wouldn't most innocent people stand up and offer to take the test?

no
Bacciagalupe
10-10-07, 07:24 PM
Polygraphs are basically worthless. There is, at this time, no such thing as an actual "lie detector."

Besides, public statements and professions of innocence are irrelevant. The only thing that matters is the science, namely:

• Did the lab accurately determine the presence of exogenous testosterone in his system.
• Did the lab violate the testing protocols, in such a way as to invalidate an adverse finding.

Squint
10-10-07, 07:58 PM
Polygraphs are basically worthless. There is, at this time, no such thing as an actual "lie detector."

Besides, public statements and professions of innocence are irrelevant. The only thing that matters is the science, namely:

• Did the lab accurately determine the presence of exogenous testosterone in his system.
• Did the lab violate the testing protocols, in such a way as to invalidate an adverse finding.

Really? I thought it was more about procedural due process than anything else.
ed073
10-10-07, 09:15 PM
Really? I thought it was more about procedural due process than anything else.

On TV, maybe.
Trevor98
10-11-07, 03:23 AM
Taking a lie detector test is lose-lose for Landis. Obviously if he fails it, which is likely due to the way they are often given- the tester wants to catch you lying. If he passes the test then he "cheated the test" using whatever dubious means. There is no upside to taking such a test. People only trust Lie Detector tests when they confirm they existing beliefs.
wfrogge
10-11-07, 08:47 AM
He already took a lie detector test and failed

*the positive drug test*
recursive
10-11-07, 09:16 AM
Polygraph tests are worthless as lie detectors. The real reason they are used is to scare people into confessing.

A giant scam perpetrated by the man.

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b212/ungod11/nbc_the_more_you_know.jpg
DocRay
10-11-07, 09:40 AM
Chronic liars will pass lie detector tests.
Lie detector tests don't work reliably, which is why they can't be used in court.
erader
10-11-07, 09:44 AM
He already took a lie detector test and failed

*the positive drug test*

he also failed the lemond weenie test :eek:.

ed rader
Demit
10-11-07, 01:14 PM
The OP must have a very interesting view of the world, assuming everyone is guilty who hasn't offered to take a polygraph.
bikindan
10-11-07, 01:59 PM
Polygraphs are only good for entertainment shows such as Maury and that Springer guy. Maybe FLandis should go on a couple of those. Maybe shed some tears on Oprah or something.
ed073
10-11-07, 04:07 PM
"Floyd......you ARE the father!!"
alanbikehouston
10-11-07, 06:53 PM
A well conducted lie detector test is right about 55% of the time. Flipping a coin does slightly worse.