Electronics, Lighting, & Gadgets - Just Ordered a Dinotte 600L and 140L Combo.

Viperz! ummm I think maybe you should sell these photos to Dinotte for marketing purposes...great photos man! and nice bike to boot.

Viperz! ummm I think maybe you should sell these photos to Dinotte for marketing purposes...great photos man! and nice bike to boot.

Thanks, too bad you don't work for Dinotte marketing, we'd be in business :beer:

Rode a short night ride with it last night. The one thing that has left me feeling really good about this system is the amount of run time available to me. For some strange reason, I feel rich in battery reserves, with no worries of running out. I'm not sure why, but I just feel this way :)

Geez. With the brightness produced by that light, you would think that you saw the "No Parking" sign you were parked next to!

;-)


:roflmao:

Ya Think huh...?

;)



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The Dynamic Duo

Thanks, too bad you don't work for Dinotte marketing, we'd be in business :beer:

Rode a short night ride with it last night. The one thing that has left me feeling really good about this system is the amount of run time available to me. For some strange reason, I feel rich in battery reserves, with no worries of running out. I'm not sure why, but I just feel this way :)


Knowing that you will not run out of light is a geat luxury. It's one less thing to think about. With less time of course you always need to know how long you have been riding and how much is left. With my 8 hours I realized in the summer some nights I can ride all night it starts to get light. No more home at x time. I rode one entire season running down a four hour light and coming home on less light, or being just barely on time, or having two nightrider lights on the bike. It's a pain.
Then with 8 hours it's like having a car with endless lights all night. It encourages exploring or relaxing more. It's so different from having to be done at a certain time it's hard to explain until you find someone who has been through it. It's not like a bicycle light.
When I am 50 miles from home in the dark, in a state forest with 10 miles to any houses and I see a coyote, knowing you have only so much time on the main headlight stinks. When you know you won't run out you could even reverse your route if needed. It's very relaxing. It's great when your friends get flat tires too. Or when you realize you rode off the edge of the map and are lost at midnight. :o

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Coolest Bike Light shot ever!

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Coolest Bike Light shot ever!

Thanks Stevesurf :beer:



Knowing that you will not run out of light is a geat luxury. It's one less thing to think about. With less time of course you always need to know how long you have been riding and how much is left. With my 8 hours I realized in the summer some nights I can ride all night it starts to get light. No more home at x time. I rode one entire season running down a four hour light and coming home on less light, or being just barely on time, or having two nightrider lights on the bike. It's a pain.
Then with 8 hours it's like having a car with endless lights all night. It encourages exploring or relaxing more. It's so different from having to be done at a certain time it's hard to explain until you find someone who has been through it. It's not like a bicycle light.
When I am 50 miles from home in the dark, in a state forest with 10 miles to any houses and I see a coyote, knowing you have only so much time on the main headlight stinks. When you know you won't run out you could even reverse your route if needed. It's very relaxing. It's great when your friends get flat tires too. Or when you realize you rode off the edge of the map and are lost at midnight. :o


Truer word have not been spoken. It was as if I had the entire night to play with. :)

The only limiting factor is the 2 cell tail light that get 4 hours on High. I could always go to strobe mode to get 12 hours, or 25% Brightness for 16 hours. Another option is to run it off the main 4 cell pack with the Y connector. In the end as long as I can see, that matters to me more, and I can alwasy pack along the PB Super Flash.

Love the picture of Bailey :lol:

Thanks a lot, Viper. I was content with getting a PB Superflash and some kind of inexpensive LED headlight, since I figured that my commute route is along ordinary suburban streets with streetlights and such. Then I saw your photos. I was doomed.
My 200L and taillight should be delivered this week, I hope... :D

Thanks a lot, Viper. I was content with getting a PB Superflash and some kind of inexpensive LED headlight, since I figured that my commute route is along ordinary suburban streets with streetlights and such. Then I saw your photos. I was doomed.
My 200L and taillight should be delivered this week, I hope... :D

Good to hear, hope you enjoy it as much as I do so far :beer:

I may have snapped....

Nothing to see here :)

I took advantage of the weekend sale. Although I did not know the NM-Hi version was incompatible with my Li-Ion collection, this is such a nice compact light, I will use it for our Wednesday night rides where most lights are overkill, and I only need the light for about 1 hour tops, to get home.


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the 200L - AA is an impressive little unit, I'm glad I bought it on the weekend sale. This little mity-mite is going to be a lot more handier to me than I had envisioned.

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It's a Little Dynamo!

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140L-Li & 200L-AA

Here is a quick peek at the now XLS Extreme System. I'll get some beam shots up when I have more time to play. I was finally able to find the time to set it up just for some quick photos.

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I'll try to get some more shots this weekend, however it will probably be mounted on my MTB by then due to the snow.

Is the two headlight system a lot cheaper than Wilma?
How long can you go on high?
Is that 1200 lumens?
What is the true meaning of life?

Is the two headlight system a lot cheaper than Wilma?
How long can you go on high?
Is that 1200 lumens?
What is the true meaning of life?

Well it is $750 for 1200 lumens. Includes 4 batteries and 2 chargers. So at 3.5 hours on high, if you wanted to carry the 2 spare batteries you would be talking 7 hours for both on high. Not bad. Cheaper than the Wilma 8, 30% more light.

Runtime is hard to compare. The Wilma gets a better runtime per battery, but the bottle mounted battery is a good bit larger. The Dinotte gets more runtime with the batteries you get, but less convenient as you would have to swap them out as they run down.

Now also the dinotte specs say the light outputis 520-600 lumens. I guess that would me at low power you would still have 1040 lumen output for both, with a runtime of 14 hours per battery.

I love dinotte :)

I just wanna know how ViperZ has the spare cash to splurge on so much lighting goodness.

-D

I think the 520-600 lumens spec is temperature dependent max output. Half power would be about 300 lumens and low power about 150 lumens.

Well it is $750 for 1200 lumens. Includes 4 batteries and 2 chargers. So at 3.5 hours on high, if you wanted to carry the 2 spare batteries you would be talking 7 hours for both on high. Not bad. Cheaper than the Wilma 8, 30% more light.

Runtime is hard to compare. The Wilma gets a better runtime per battery, but the bottle mounted battery is a good bit larger. The Dinotte gets more runtime with the batteries you get, but less convenient as you would have to swap them out as they run down.

Now also the dinotte specs say the light outputis 520-600 lumens. I guess that would me at low power you would still have 1040 lumen output for both, with a runtime of 14 hours per battery.

I love dinotte :)

I just wanna know how ViperZ has the spare cash to splurge on so much lighting goodness.

-D


Thanks for all the great information. I stupidly typed Wilma when I was thinking Betty. The short run time of the three choices the Betty 6. Sorry.

New 1400 Lumen LED Lamp
$995

Detailed Description...........
LED Lamp
6.8 Amp-Hr Li-Ion Battery
Burn Time 22W: 3 Hrs.
Burn Time 9W: 6.5 Hrs.
Burn Time 1W: 42 Hrs.
Burn Time .25W: 168 Hrs.
Charge Time: 4 Hrs.
Weight: 485g
Light Output: 1400 Lumens

Is the two headlight system a lot cheaper than Wilma?
How long can you go on high?
Is that 1200 lumens?
What is the true meaning of life?


Carburetors man, that's what life is all about....
(whooo -heeee-hoooo-whooooo)
I was not myself last night
I ran light with out my registration
Where a cop was bound to see
And you know me
Already on probation
I finally lost control
And tore up my tuck and roll
Upholstery... Where my baby sits up close to me
That suppose to be, what our life's all about

:D



Well it is $750 for 1200 lumens. Includes 4 batteries and 2 chargers. So at 3.5 hours on high, if you wanted to carry the 2 spare batteries you would be talking 7 hours for both on high. Not bad. Cheaper than the Wilma 8, 30% more light.

Runtime is hard to compare. The Wilma gets a better runtime per battery, but the bottle mounted battery is a good bit larger. The Dinotte gets more runtime with the batteries you get, but less convenient as you would have to swap them out as they run down.

Now also the dinotte specs say the light outputis 520-600 lumens. I guess that would me at low power you would still have 1040 lumen output for both, with a runtime of 14 hours per battery.

I love dinotte :)

I just wanna know how ViperZ has the spare cash to splurge on so much lighting goodness.

-D

We think alike :beer:

As for the splurge... I factored it into the Christmas lights budget for this year :lol:

Carburetors man, that's what life is all about....
(whooo -heeee-hoooo-whooooo)
I was not myself last night
I ran light with out my registration
Where a cop was bound to see
And you know me
Already on probation
I finally lost control
And tore up my tuck and roll
Upholstery... Where my baby sits up close to me
That suppose to be, what our life's all about

:D


:roflmao::roflmao::roflmao:

I took delivery of a 600L last Saturday, and have used it for my daily commutes this week.

Basically, it rocks! When I'm riding where there's lots of ambient light and traffic, I put it in flash mode. Otherwise, with a single button push it's in high beam steady mode.

And mounted on the helmet, it's easy to shine it at cars approaching from side streets.

I was coming home today, going through a busy downtown street -> had my 200L on high made a left and the car heading east on the street I turned onto thought I was a cop and pulled over.

:)

Viperz can you post a comparison photo of the 200L vs 600L then vs 2 x 600L? I'm debating whether or not to sell my 200L and just pickup a 600L instead, although at the cost of $399, it's a pretty big toss up between that and the HIDs...

:roflmao::roflmao::roflmao:


You seen the show I take it...? :lol:




I took delivery of a 600L last Saturday, and have used it for my daily commutes this week.

Basically, it rocks! When I'm riding where there's lots of ambient light and traffic, I put it in flash mode. Otherwise, with a single button push it's in high beam steady mode.

And mounted on the helmet, it's easy to shine it at cars approaching from side streets.


Good to hear it's working well for you :beer: I like the high beam button, however I'll typically run it in full high all the time :D

I wished I could commute with the XLS setup, however the PB Alias HID still does a stellar job!

I was coming home today, going through a busy downtown street -> had my 200L on high made a left and the car heading east on the street I turned onto thought I was a cop and pulled over.

:)

Viperz can you post a comparison photo of the 200L vs 600L then vs 2 x 600L? I'm debating whether or not to sell my 200L and just pickup a 600L instead, although at the cost of $399, it's a pretty big toss up between that and the HIDs...


Humm.. Sounds like a fun experiment and a plan. I could undertake that this weekend maybe. I'll mount the lights on my MTB so I have a clear bar, and can take the lights some place pitch black :D

I took the XLS-EX system for a night ride tonight.......

This thing really kicks-ass!! On most city streets, this amount of light isn't necessary as there is enough ambient light to show the way, however it really does point the potholes and debris on the street for you, even with all the ambient lighting.

On a darker street/path is where the light really Shines :D The amount of light is ridiculous! :lol:

I think this should be enough light for the time being. Although I wonder what it would be like with the HID strapped on as well?

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Really, this was a dark, unlit path....

Can you imagine if you got another 600L for the helmet::D

Can you imagine if you got another 600L for the helmet::D


Even More Ridiculous!

:roflmao:

Even adding the 200L on the helmet with the XLS seems out there like Pluto ;)

Although it could come in handy for trail riding, for around corners when the XLS light can't reflect or bounce off anything.

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This shot is a bit closer to eye level while riding, just a bit back....

Notice the small twig and debris on the path :)

Those 2 600l lights look excellent ViperZ. Sorry if I missed it, but did you get two standard 600ls or one standard one wide. Looks like two standard, but what do I know.:)

Those 2 600l lights look excellent ViperZ. Sorry if I missed it, but did you get two standard 600ls or one standard one wide. Looks like two standard, but what do I know.:)

Thanks!

Good eye, they are 2 standards. I was in discussions with Rob @ Dinotte, I had mentioned the idea of 1 standard and 1 wide. We both agreed that 2 standards would have more than enough side spill due to the side by side arrangement, while providing the long range as well. So far it has shown to be a win win situation.

I pondered what I would get in relation to standard and wide optics if I went with 2x 600Ls on the bar. I still don't know the answer, but your beam shot pic helps a lot. I like them mounted under the bar and it seems it might protect them more in the event of a wreck. I'm also still considering the Dinotte tail light, but I don't know if it is necessary as I have two PB Superflashes and one 7 led Vistalite Eclipse which so far have done the job. Obviously the dinotte tail light will blow them away, but due to the relatively short run time of the Dinotte tail light it would mean a lot more charging whereas the superflashes last quite a while before I throw fresh batteries in them.

Anyway back to the 600Ls. I think in my case I would go with one wide and one standard due to the fact that I already have the Wilma helmet mounted. The Dinotte standard beam seems very similar to the Wilma beam. So I think If I had one 600L wide and one standard lens and the Wilma thrown in then it would give a similar beam pattern to yours, but also with more light wider and up close also. Shouldn't be to much different then having 3x 600Ls with a standard on the helmet and one wide and one standard on the bars. Maybe Santa will leave some Dinottes under my tree this year. :)

I really don't feel a wide is required, as the spill light is more than enough with the 2 standards. Like I said, it seems like a ridiculous amount of light on the road for a bicycle. However we all want different things, and a person never fully knows until they try.

Add to that the Wilma on your helmet :D

I find the biggest change for me coming from a HID system to a LED, is the HID has a very sharp cutoff of light and dark, in the cone of light created by the reflector, not to mention the point hotspot. The LED on the other had, just casts a cloud of light with a soft cut off area and no real hot spot. In some strange way I miss this sharp cutoff/contrast for it's mental factor :)


Question... Why would you not get another Wilma (cost not being a factor) to stay within a single product line for compatibility on road and in shop?

Riding into work today with my Planet Bike Alias HID, I was reveling at the cast of the reflector cone, and how it gives the perception of more light due to the contrasts of light to dark. It is a strange sensation compared to the mura cast of the LED.

I sure do like having both.

Question... Why would you not get another Wilma (cost not being a factor) to stay within a single product line for compatibility on road and in shop?

I just like to try out different lights plus with 2x 600Ls I can get one wide and one standard which should be a wide pattern while still having good reach. Then there is the whole extra battery thing that Dinotte adds in. Also I could lend one Dinotte 600L to a friend and still have one for myself. My rides can be sometimes on the road, sometimes trails, paths, or a combo of all. I don't know where the heck I will end up sometimes.

ViperZ I have a question just out of curiousity. If you had three 600L's would you have one of them as wide or all standard?

Benefits of having what seems like a ridiculous amount of light on your bike.

1) In the rain and when the road is wet you can still see the ground in front of you. A lot of light is required for this. Just like your car may seem if the headlights are off in these conditions.

2) When a car has its high beams pointed right into your face due to a hill or a corner, as they swing by into your eyes you can still see the ground in front of you.

3) When crossing from a very bright area with lots of ambient lighting to a dark area or back again. Your eyes don't have to adjust instantly.

Edit: 3a) When two or all three of the above happen together. You really need some power to see a hole or some glass.

4) You can get (at least) ViperZ and 2manybikes to want one if you talk about it long enough.

I just like to try out different lights plus with 2x 600Ls I can get one wide and one standard which should be a wide pattern while still having good reach. Then there is the whole extra battery thing that Dinotte adds in. Also I could lend one Dinotte 600L to a friend and still have one for myself. My rides can be sometimes on the road, sometimes trails, paths, or a combo of all. I don't know where the heck I will end up sometimes.

ViperZ I have a question just out of curiousity. If you had three 600L's would you have one of them as wide or all standard?

Gotcha! I like to stay with a product line for a particular application, however after that I too like to try various items. A Betty is still on my list of "have to try" :D

I guess seeing as I have 2 standards, if I had 3, I would experiment with the wide, may as well.... :)

Benefits of having what seems like a ridiculous amount of light on your bike.

1) In the rain and when the road is wet you can still see the ground in front of you. A lot of light is required for this. Just like your car may seem if the headlights are off in these conditions.

2) When a car has its high beams pointed right into your face due to a hill or a corner, as they swing by into your eyes you can still see the ground in front of you.

3) When crossing from a very bright area with lots of ambient lighting to a dark area or back again. Your eyes don't have to adjust instantly.

Edit: 3a) When two or all three of the above happen together. You really need some power to see a hole or some glass.

4) You can get (at least) ViperZ and 2manybikes to want one if you talk about it long enough.

Say no more, Ridiculous is our middle name :D


I just wanted on record that I acknowledge the problem

:lol:

I had not been keeping up with this thread, so I did not see until now you got a second 600L to add to the system. If I may add my experience with this lighting system, it has really been nothing but positive so far.

I must say, at the begining I though it was very bright, but I only used it sporadicly to finish my rides in the evening. Ging from sunlight to artificial lighting you never think it is enough. Because of work schedules, family, kid's bed time and time with them, and my continued desire to keep riding, I have had to adjust my entire day's schedule. I now go riding at 3:30AM, but I am in bed right after the kids go to bed between 8-9PM! In any case, I am now using the lights for th entire ride. I would say 85%+ of my regular 42 mile loop is almost if not completely pitch black, so the lights do well there. In the well lit areas, it is sometimes almost unnecessary, but nice to have. I, very briefly at the begining, had considered gettig a second 600L, but quickly forgot about it. Now riding in the middle of the night I have gotten so used to the single 600L that I had not crossed my mind again until seeing these last posts. If I do, I think I would just get the light engine with bracket and nothing else as I think the extra 2 batteries and chargers, although nice to have the extra battery time available. would be almost too much overkill for me. What would be the ultimate killer from them would be a charger that can plug in up to 3 batteries at the same time rather than going one by one.

It is never enough isn't it?:D:D:D

I have a Dinotte 600L and a Princeton Tec Switchback 3. When it's really dark, I ride with the PT3 on a fork mount and the 600L on the bars. I add Fenix L2D Q5 on my helmet for good measure.

When the roads are wet and its raining -- seems like the right amount of light.

My only conflict is on the MUP at night. Need to be careful not to blind oncoming cyclists, peds etc. I will dim or shut off the Dinotte meeting people on really dark trails. I get the odd sarcastic comment on the setup, but not many.

The taillight is a little more controversial and I may start shutting it off on MUPs and leave a blinkie on instead.

I have read this thread with interest since I am thinking about getting the 600L as a supplement/backup for my Wilma headlight. My commute is mostly on unlit MUP and I would mount the 600L on the bar. Having 2 lights I do not have to worry about how many hours I have on a charge. I was also thinking about the Dinotte 140140L-AA-A amber light to be seen when the MUP is snow bound and I commute on the roads. Wanting greater flexibility, I was thinking about putting a amber filter in front of the 600L and using it on flash like the 140L-AA-A? What is the outside diameter of the 600L? Does anyone know if there are photographic filters that might fit or be attached to the light or flipped down over the light?

It would be pretty easy to kludge some sort of filter on the the front of the 600L. The first thing that comes to mind is a similar size cut off bottom of a plastic medication bottle.

The O.D. of the 600L is 40mm

I have a Dinotte 600L and a Princeton Tec Switchback 3. When it's really dark, I ride with the PT3 on a fork mount and the 600L on the bars. I add Fenix L2D Q5 on my helmet for good measure.


How would you rate the PT3 vs the D600L? Better? Worse?

Say no more, Ridiculous is our middle name :DI just wanted on record that I acknowledge the problem

:lol:
:roflmao::roflmao::roflmao:
It's a material world and I (we) am a material girl (guys) . lalala lala.....

My only conflict is on the MUP at night. Need to be careful not to blind oncoming cyclists, peds etc. I will dim or shut off the Dinotte meeting people on really dark trails. I get the odd sarcastic comment on the setup, but not many.
The taillight is a little more controversial and I may start shutting it off on MUPs and leave a blinkie on instead.
Having the Lupine "O" ring mount, I can aim my light down on the path easily while riding or put one hand over the side or top. I though the Dinotte had the same idea for mounting?
You don't need a tailight on a dark MUP. Everyone can see your headlight on the ground and other things, trees etc. from behind. There's no cars coming, if you have a bright headlight a cyclist can see your headlight from behind a long way away.

OK, the planned test did not go exactly as planned. It was later than I wanted to be, due to company tonight. When I got out I realized the batteries in the 200L were not the fresh set I though I had. Add to that that it has been lightly snowing all day. Everywhere the white snow is reflecting the light, making it hard to capture the images on the camera.

I went to the same place because of this and set the camera up so the images would replicate as close to the human eyes as possible. Shutter speed was set to 2 sec, with an aperture of f/2.8

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The Set up

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The Path

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200L

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1x 600L

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2 x 600L

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Alias HID

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The Works. I love how it's over saturated the CCD!

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The test mule

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It really was eye searing! I had to work hard to get this shot otherwise the image was all white.

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I suppose even though it has snowed, all the shots are relative. I may try this again, however I think the snow is here to stay.

:roflmao::roflmao::roflmao:
It's a material world and I (we) am a material girl (guys) . lalala lala.....


Having the Lupine "O" ring mount, I can aim my light down on the path easily while riding or put one hand over the side or top. I though the Dinotte had the same idea for mounting?
You don't need a tailight on a dark MUP. Everyone can see your headlight on the ground and other things, trees etc. from behind. There's no cars coming, if you have a bright headlight a cyclist can see your headlight from behind a long way away.
:lol: :D



The 600L is mounted on a slide-in clamp as pictured below. The Clamp has a pivot head that allows horizontal adjustment. The end attached to the light body allows vertical adjustment.

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How would you rate the PT3 vs the D600L? Better? Worse?

My feedback is:
PT3
Pros: very solid construction, 6+ hours runtime on one battery, fast charging, excellent handlebar mount (adapts to any size bars w/o shims, easy to take light head on / off), can access strobing mode easily, comes with 12v charger, fuel gauge for battery

Cons: a little heavy, uses older emitters, generates more heat, no announced upgrade path

600L
Pros: brighter than PT3, modular battery system allows mix/match between Dinotte batteries and light engines, lighter weight, multiple strobe modes

Cons: awkward to switch between continuous and strobe modes, no fuel gauge on batteries, poor protection of optics precludes lower mounting positions, expensive, poor manual (1 page)

Both lights have excellent beam patterns with mix of spot / flood. The PT3 is warmer than the 600L but both are very usable.

Having the Lupine "O" ring mount, I can aim my light down on the path easily while riding or put one hand over the side or top. I though the Dinotte had the same idea for mounting?
You don't need a tailight on a dark MUP. Everyone can see your headlight on the ground and other things, trees etc. from behind. There's no cars coming, if you have a bright headlight a cyclist can see your headlight from behind a long way away.

I have tried to tune the aiming of the lights to be as considerate as possible to other MUP users (i.e. down and to the right a little). My PT3 is on the fork, so it is less blinding to other users but I can't reach the switch while riding. The 600L on the bars is easy to dim or turn off, so that's what I tend to do.

Helmet lights are the easiest to deal with since you can turn your head away from oncoming traffic a little to avoid blinding people.

My commute goes on and off the MUP in short sections, so I would need to stop or fumble under my seat to switch my taillights off, which is a non-starter. I do start in the downtown section of the commute with one of my front lights on strobe and shut it off when I get to the MUP bits.

Nice. Thanks for the comparison pics ViperZ

You're welcome! It was fun, and I wished the conditions were more ideal, however I think it still is comparitive.

Here are a couple more of the set-up from last night..

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darn! i tried NOT to buy the DiNotte lights since quite some time. now i need something new to drool over. i ordered them friday afternoon and they arrived the next day, saturday, at 8:33am.

from taking the order to having it picked it up in under 2 hours plus USPS being fast for a change. i'm very impressed with the speed. only the pizza joint at the corner delivers faster :-).

can't wait to try them after work today.

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