Mountain Biking - Quality clown around time???

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Upstate
10-13-07, 07:55 PM
Does any one else out there make it a point to spend some time just goofing off on their bike and if so what do you do? Just to make it clear, this doesn't include tail whips in the middle of 10 mile ride, I am talking about screwing off around the house with kids or trying something really out of the ordinary just to be different. Any one else?


norco_rider77
10-13-07, 08:00 PM
I'm always jibbing, it's almost a second style for me :D

probable556
10-13-07, 08:09 PM
I ride my bike in the kitchen. This often gets me in trouble with my wife.


Upstate
10-13-07, 08:18 PM
I ride my bike in the kitchen. This often gets me in trouble with my wife. Now thats funny, I rode my dirtbike through a bar / resturant once. The stairs where the interesting part.

dminor
10-13-07, 08:38 PM
I pass time on the weekly group shop rides popping wheeles and seeing how far I can carry them, doing no-brake flat track slides on gravel roads and other just general screwing around that I'm sure annoys the others.

Oh yeah, and I do laps in the basement sometimes - - and trying not to clip the corners of the pool table. My son and I used to do drops off the back porch until it annoyed my wife too much.

norco_rider77
10-13-07, 10:35 PM
Oh yeah, and I do laps in the basement sometimes - - and trying not to clip the corners of the pool table. My son and I used to do drops off the back porch until it annoyed my wife too much.

I've got to try that this winter (basement)... I hope I can clean it up enough. I'll have to try the drops, and I could try step-ups too!

BFG
10-14-07, 03:21 AM
Yeah, i get in about half an hour "clowning around" time every day.

I havent been riding long, i find its handy.

paul emick
10-14-07, 09:07 AM
I'm constantly in my backyard trying to learn how to ride wheelies. One of those things I didn't have the attention span for as a kid. Plus, it does seem to offer a workout.

kill.cactus
10-14-07, 01:35 PM
I "clown around" by doing laps around obstacles in my garage. It really helps your low speed handling and break actuation skills!!

01amberfirewv
10-14-07, 02:35 PM
When I can't get out on the trails I usualy just try to ride wheelies around the neighborhood. I try to do manuals, j-hops and nose wheelies but try is about as far as it goes.

pm63
10-14-07, 02:58 PM
When my phone rings on a ride I have the habit of pulling into a parking lot/empty space, and riding in circles no-handed while having the conversation. I also try to slam on the front brake and see how far forward I can lean my bike over with lifting the rear wheel off the ground before I flip over the handlebars.

Sometimes, when I'm waiting for someone to catch up or whatever, I cruise at a very low speed and pedal backwards very fast.

And don't forget riding very fast at a wall and braking, trying to leave the smallest possible distance between the front wheel and the wall without actuallly hitting it.

norco_rider77
10-15-07, 04:54 AM
When my phone rings on a ride I have the habit of pulling into a parking lot/empty space, and riding in circles no-handed while having the conversation. I also try to slam on the front brake and see how far forward I can lean my bike over with lifting the rear wheel off the ground before I flip over the handlebars.

Sometimes, when I'm waiting for someone to catch up or whatever, I cruise at a very low speed and pedal backwards very fast.

And don't forget riding very fast at a wall and braking, trying to leave the smallest possible distance between the front wheel and the wall without actuallly hitting it.

If you stick your butt out once your into the stoppie, you can usually get pretty high, and when you let it down, come back to the saddle when you start falling and then absorb the impact.

I can be doing 35km/h and stop in a bike length

BFG
10-15-07, 05:09 AM
I can be doing 35km/h and stop in a bike length

I doubt it would be that fast, but i know what you mean.

If you learn to progresively brake and......hot dang i dont know the word.......its on the tip of my tongue. Oh well. Using your brakes accordingly, and not just slamming both on. I dont know.

But its fun to go as fast as you can, and then stop as quick as you can with out going over the bars. "Go to Whoa"

robbiemcgilla
10-15-07, 09:12 AM
Is it "feathering the brakes" it used in trials kind of similar to ABS (Anti-Locking Brake System) for a car.
Where instead of locking the front brake u vary the level of force on the lever depending on your momentum and height of the rear wheel. (How close u are to going arse over tits)

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With the days getting shorter, my chances of a mid week ride are slim by the time I get home from work, I end up trying tricks in the garden, try doing back hops, I got 17 the other day, cnat do front hops anymore since I got front suspension, am I the only person who prefered rigid bikes?

norco_rider77
10-15-07, 09:56 AM
I doubt it would be that fast, but i know what you mean.

On my old crappy bike I had a computer and I remember coming down the road to my house and doing 40km/h. I wasn't going that fast, but I was over 30km/h. There's a mark from radiator fluid or something there, and as soon as my front tire was over it i grabbed the brake and hung over the rear wheel as much as possible. when I was stopped, my back tire was on the spot. anyway, let's just say 35km/h to 0km/h in 6 feet is possible.


cant do front hops anymore since I got front suspension

Why not? I havent had trouble, just cant hop to much on my front yet because I'm not used to being on my balance point in the front. I guess in the future, a fork with lock-out would be worth looking into for you.

c_m_shooter
10-15-07, 11:42 AM
When I'm on group rides with the local road club, it kind of pisses them off when I aim for potholes so I can practice bunnyhops. I tell them ahead of time not to follow me too close, but they think I'm just joking until they smack into a pothole at 20mph.

Tappets
10-15-07, 12:45 PM
oh yes, almost a daily thing for me too. front porch drop offs and riding back up the 3 stairs. trying to ride wheelies everywhere. i still have gotten that down yet, but getting betterer.

i built a long low step ladder of sorts with some scrap 2x6s and 4x4s at varying heights to work on bunnyhops and all kinds of other stuff while i'm putzing around in the yard with the mtn bikey.

i'm gonna practice the intsant braking thing tonight. thanks for the tips and ideas everyone!

junkyard
10-15-07, 01:01 PM
Not sure if this counts, but on the road bikes the other day, my buddy and I played a game. We were on steady decline and a Honda Element pulled in front of us. We both tucked (no pedaling) to see who could hit the back of it first. I won, though chickened out before slamming into the bumper.

On the mountain bikes, another buddy of mine and I used to practice wheelies on a patch of lawn in front of one of the buildings at Yale after dark. Those were good times.

norco_rider77
10-15-07, 02:25 PM
you're claiming that you can stop within four feet.

I'm not going by wheelbase, but if you measure from the font of the front tire to the back of the back, that adds another 2 feet. And to make you feel better, I'll go down to 30km/h, but that's the minimum.

norco_rider77
10-15-07, 02:44 PM
Still BS.

And your still the same a****** you've always been.

BenLi
10-15-07, 06:19 PM
OP, riding is serious business and there's no time for clowning around. (http://www.paradigmhosting.net/vid/clown.wmv)

only for those who do 6 hours every weekend.


... you must be very fit....

Just for those of us who are fatasses, clowning around is kinda fun when we have nothing better to do.

norco_rider77
10-15-07, 06:32 PM
If pointing out that the simple fact that you cannot stop from 30/35kph in 4-5 1/2 feet makes me an "a******" then so be it.

It's called reality, no matter how bent out of shape you get about it.

Let me remind you that I have less inertia than you, since I'm only 14, and weigh about 120lbs. with my bike, that's 150lbs, which is probable less than you without your bike, considering the average weight of a grown male.

and I said 6ft

BenLi
10-15-07, 07:46 PM
It has nothing to do with relative weight. It has everything to do with you being fullof sh|t.

Formula 1 cars are able to brake at up to 5 gees.

You are claiming that you are able to brake between 4.5-5 gees, on your bike.

Total BS.

I think he simply has no concept how fast 30 mph really is.

BenLi
10-15-07, 08:09 PM
I know that you are unable to read this thread and extract accurate information from it.

Ahh, 35km/h

MulletArgyleman
10-15-07, 08:23 PM
If pointing out that the simple fact that you cannot stop from 30/35kph in 4-5 1/2 feet makes me an "a******" then so be it.

It's called reality, no matter how bent out of shape you get about it.

Seriously, why do u care? ur always starting absolutely pointless arguements, 5 hey?:rolleyes:
I can tell...

Upstate
10-15-07, 08:33 PM
First of all, 35 kph to 0 kph in 4' would be 18g's and in 6' it would be 12g's. Secondly, the idea of this thread was not to test a person's math skills or their understanding of gravity, rather to ask yourself how do you achieve quality clown around time? If you think the other forum member is wrong, then laugh/snicker to yourself and move on to the next one. For the most part the replys have fun and enjoyable.
Personally, I gave up riding motorcross to have fun with my daughter and my wife. I don't make any money riding bicycles, I just do it for fun. I was hoping that this thread would allow others to show how they have fun.
Thanks
Joe

BenLi
10-15-07, 08:37 PM
Pointless? Explain why it is pointless.

While you're at it (or "ur" if you are having trouble understanding ) you might want to check your (or "ur" if "ur" having trouble understanding) aolese before the anti-aolese folks give you another b|tch slapping.

The you can try to explain why it is pointless to point out that a bicycle cannot brake at 4.5-5 gees.

Good luck.

Explain why there's a point in pointing it out to someone who refuses to listen. Often times your posts are helpful at pointing out bad advice, yet much of the aftermath is pointless. The offending poster refuses to change their mind, making your efforts pointless. Reading the posts, people know you're right, and after that, you have nothing to defend. Of course it is annoying when someone continues to assert that their right, but any discerning reader should be able to tell sound advice from terrible ones.

Dannihilator
10-15-07, 08:41 PM
Clowning around?

Upstate
10-15-07, 08:59 PM
Why do you assume that they refuse to listen?


Are you a crossing guard, a hall monitor, or both?

Pete, since you are a F1 kind of guy you should already know this. Formula One racing car driver David Purley survived an estimated 179.8 g in 1977 when he decelerated from 173 km/h (108 mph) to 0 in a distance of 66 cm (26 inches) after his throttle got stuck wide open and he hit a wall.
Secondly, they typically would refuse listen to you because you are so full of yourself that you well just plain, Suck. Even though I agree completely on free speech and you keep coming up with the same speech each time, you still suck. I was enjoying this thread until you had to make your point over and over again. Do us a favor and take your suck comments someplace else.

BenLi
10-15-07, 09:05 PM
Why do you assume that they refuse to listen?

It's not an assumption. Many times, he/she chooses not to listen. I'm referring to the people who post advice you deem bad

Why does there have to be a "point" that passes "BenLi's" test in order for something to be posted?

There doesn't. I am simply communicating my observations.

Then don't read the aftermath. Who is forcing you to read something that you deem to be pointless?

No one forces me. I choose to. It's a part of what makes forums interesting. Once again, my personal observations. I am entitled to an opinion. Besides, in the grand scheme of things, it's not going to matter. You're going to continue to do what you do regardless of what I say. Therefore, my post above is pointless. Forgive my hypocrisy.

Who are you to determine was is pointless for other folks?

I did not state that I determine what is pointless, but simply that I believe that folks will see what is good advice and what is not good advice very clearly. There are still a good number of people here who know their stuff.

Are you a crossing guard, a hall monitor, or both?

I'll get back to you on that one



Hmm do I actually clown around on a bike? Not really. If you mean clowning as in not trail riding, I'll hit the pavement once in a while. But most times when the bike's out, it'll come back dirty.

mcoine
10-15-07, 09:10 PM
Pete, since you are a F1 kind of guy you should already know this. Formula One racing car driver David Purley survived an estimated 179.8 g in 1977 when he decelerated from 173 km/h (108 mph) to 0 in a distance of 66 cm (26 inches) after his throttle got stuck wide open and he hit a wall.


Wow, I just read this on wikipedia.. almost word for word you have retold the story.

Upstate
10-15-07, 09:14 PM
Wow, I just read this on wikipedia.. almost word for word you have retold the story.
I wouldn't want him (the guy that sucks) to think that I am making that up too.

mcoine
10-15-07, 09:17 PM
huh?

Upstate
10-15-07, 09:28 PM
Hey, if you're not making it up, then you should be able to prove me wrong very easily there sport.

Just post the steps that you took to get your 12g figure.

If you actually did the math, it should be very easy for you to post the steps you took.

If you didn't do the math and are just BSing, then you won't be able to post the steps.

Simple, eh?

173 / 35 = 4.94
179.8 / 4.94 = 36.396
2' / 6' = .333 (two foot was used do the rounding of the bike length 6')
36.396 *.333 = 12.130
Simple, eh?

mx_599
10-15-07, 09:53 PM
First of all, 35 kph to 0 kph in 4' would be 18g's and in 6' it would be 12g's. Secondly, the idea of this thread was not to test a person's math skills or their understanding of gravity, rather to ask yourself how do you achieve quality clown around time? If you think the other forum member is wrong, then laugh/snicker to yourself and move on to the next one. For the most part the replys have fun and enjoyable.
Personally, I gave up riding motorcross to have fun with my daughter and my wife. I don't make any money riding bicycles, I just do it for fun. I was hoping that this thread would allow others to show how they have fun.
Thanks
Joe

excellent :D

rydaddy
10-15-07, 10:05 PM
173 / 35 = 4.94
179.8 / 4.94 = 36.396
2' / 6' = .333 (two foot was used do the rounding of the bike length 6')
36.396 *.333 = 12.130
Simple, eh?


Very interesting.

I'm getting 1.93 gees for 30km/hr to 0 in 6 feet.

(3.94 gees for 35km/hr in 4 feet)

MulletArgyleman
10-15-07, 10:09 PM
Does any one else out there make it a point to spend some time just goofing off on their bike and if so what do you do? Just to make it clear, this doesn't include tail whips in the middle of 10 mile ride, I am talking about screwing off around the house with kids or trying something really out of the ordinary just to be different. Any one else?

not right now - i broke (yes, more then out of true) my front rim on my KHS alite 500 - the rim is of course out of true, the spokes are super loose and make ping-pong sounds, the hub is broken, the ball bearings are rolling all over (waayy out of place, sh#*ty rim), but when i get the rim fixed, take of my front mech/shifters/1st + 3rd chainrings, buy a pair of 2.2" holy rollers............i'll be able to clown around:p.

robbiemcgilla
10-16-07, 02:45 AM
If pointing out that the simple fact that you cannot stop from 30/35kph in 4-5 1/2 feet makes me an "a******" then so be it.

It's called reality, no matter how bent out of shape you get about it.

Do you talk to people in the real world like that the whole time? Ever wonder why you have no friends?:mad:

silver bullet
10-16-07, 06:32 AM
Very interesting.

I'm getting 1.93 gees for 30km/hr to 0 in 6 feet.

(3.94 gees for 35km/hr in 4 feet)
Me too, assuming the acceleration to be constant. ;-)

robbiemcgilla
10-16-07, 08:18 AM
How did you get 12 gees stopping from 35 kph to zero kph in 6 feet?



That's too bad. Sometimes threads diverge. You can't control that, no matter how much you would like to.



#1. Who are you to dictate how anyone else should reply?

#2. If folks followed your simplistic suggestion above, the forum would be full of even more bad information than it currently is.



Kumbaya, my lord, kumbaya...

I think some folks have shown how they "clown around" on a bike.

From my observations, the main reason threads diverge is because know it all's like yourself are not content with making there points, they feel a need to personally attack posts made by other uses, and feel they have to make up for some inequitey in their lives.

That kid may be able to stop from 30km/h in 3 inches for all it matters, at the end of the day he's a kid, and this is a forum about clowning around. Clowning around is about having fun, Pete I doubt you've ever had fun...ever, so go join a thread about the benefits of having your fat head so far up your own exit, that u actually have a reason for your breath smelling like cr*p!!!

Bike Lover
10-16-07, 08:40 AM
When I'm on group rides with the local road club, it kind of pisses them off when I aim for potholes so I can practice bunnyhops. I tell them ahead of time not to follow me too close, but they think I'm just joking until they smack into a pothole at 20mph.

Perhaps leading a group ride is not the time to be doing that. It's fine on your own, dangerous leading a group ride.

Dannihilator
10-16-07, 08:41 AM
I still want to know what clowning around time is.

Thrifty1
10-16-07, 09:27 AM
Knowledgeable people speak (type) because they have something to say (type).
Lil Peter Fagerlin speaks (types) because he has to say (type) something.

Thrifty1
10-16-07, 09:39 AM
Lil Peter Fagerlin speaks (types) because he has to say (type) something.

rydaddy
10-16-07, 09:51 AM
dist = v^2/(2a) *stopping distance for given velocity, v, and constant accel, a

a = v^2/(2d) = (27.3)^2/(2*6) = 62.11 ft/s^2

#g's = 62.11/32.2 = 1.93

ZeCanon
10-16-07, 09:53 AM
I am constantly amazed that Pete can function as a human being, with other human beings, on a regular basis without getting punched in the face.

But continue on, this is a good one.

Tappets
10-16-07, 10:16 AM
I just think Pete's lookinng for some mathmateical fact to back up the claims, is all.

As far as clowning around fun, I spent about 2 hours riding all over the yard last night. Drinking some beer trying to improve my lackluster wheelies, bunnyhopping stuff and rolling off the front porch. Tried the instant braking, as mentioned earlier somehwere, and although it didn't live up to its expectations, it was great fun to see how I could stop at different speeds.

Get out and ride - Cheers!

ZeCanon
10-16-07, 10:18 AM
Now now Pete, the last two times you argued with me you got banned...
Sadly, I can not argue with you now, because I have to go take an exam. I shall dominate it in your honor, though.

ZeCanon
10-16-07, 10:29 AM
RAWR said the tiny lion with no mane

silver bullet
10-16-07, 12:52 PM
My results are different.

30kph = 27.3 f/s

Stopping in 6 feet takes about 1/5 second (assuming constant deacceleration).

You forgot to take into account that the average velocity during the deceleration is only half the starting velocity (assuming constant deceleration to a velocity of 0).