Classic & Vintage - Thanks Dr D This is my '71 Super Sport

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bigwoo
10-14-07, 04:19 PM
After all of these many months, it is done!

I wish that I could take credit for this, but the truth is that I simply sat down with a pen and pad and contemplated some things that I have always wanted to try on a hand fillet brazed Chicago Schwinn, because to me these frames deserve some special treatment. I wanted simplistic elegance and speed. This project came together because of some of the wonderful members we have on Bike Forums.

Thanks to Dr D for yet another absolutely perfect FAR OUT Campus Green paint job and for arranging for the decals!
(I don't want to start any arguments, mswantak did the decals and they are perfect. I don't know what the status is with that whole situation)

Thanks to the Big Boss Man for trading me the vintage alloy wheels for that mixte (which I was able to swap out for these Campagnolo wheels and hubs)

And, thanks to Jon at Grinder Bikes (I forget his user name) for feeding my Schwinn lust and creating yet another phenomenal build. It rides like velvet :)


Pastor Bob, this bike originally came from San Francisco Cyclery.


This was the bike, on a cold snowy night last year:

http://http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l42/bigwoo2/CYGofbtFRXgnXLXpgqHKLwSQAnRe1.jpg



And now, for your viewing pleasure:

http://http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l42/bigwoo2/CIMG3855.jpg

http://http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l42/bigwoo2/CIMG3856.jpg

http://http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l42/bigwoo2/CIMG3850.jpg


stringbreaker
10-14-07, 04:23 PM
Oh yeah thats a goodern all right. Dr. D beautiful paint job are those cork hand grips?

bigwoo
10-14-07, 04:24 PM
As pictured with half fenders, Brooks narrow, saddle bags, toe clips, air pump, Conti gatorskins with extra slimetubes, etc, it comes in at a stealthy 25.4 lbs


http://http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l42/bigwoo2/CIMG3859.jpg

http://http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l42/bigwoo2/CIMG3864.jpg


Regarding the fixed -vs- all original, I now have the best of both worlds (But the fixed far outperforms the stock SS as we are talking Campy wheels, pedals, Nitto Albatross, Continental gatorskins, etc):

http://http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l42/bigwoo2/CIMG0378.jpg


bigwoo
10-14-07, 04:30 PM
Thanks stringbreaker,
Yes, they sell the cork grips at Rivendell and at Cycle Analyst here in Denver, Jon at grinderbikes recommended that I try a shellacked pair of corkers. I'm glad I listened to him. They feel great :)

stringbreaker
10-14-07, 04:32 PM
I'm going to shellac the tan cork bar tape on my project continental. Are the grips darker in reality than the picture shows

bigwoo
10-14-07, 04:38 PM
I'm going to shellac the tan cork bar tape on my project continental. Are the grips darker in reality than the picture shows


No, crystal clear shellac. But if you wanted them darker, I'm sure that it would be easy enough to darken by mixing 2 different shellacs

barba
10-14-07, 04:39 PM
I love the bike (the fenders not so much).

el twe
10-14-07, 04:41 PM
Very nice.

bigwoo
10-14-07, 04:45 PM
Thanks for the compliments, I know that half fenders are not for everybody, but I was blessed to find 5 pairs of these that had been in the basement of a local/independent Schwinn dealer since 1973.

I've grown very fond of these shorties and I hope they'll do a great job of protecting the head set from moisture/corrosion

(Strangely, they are stamped "Schwinn Made in France")

el twe
10-14-07, 04:56 PM
Schwinn used many French parts in the 70s and stamped them as their own or "Schwinn Approved."

pastorbobnlnh
10-14-07, 05:12 PM
Oooh Big Woo--- Dr.D. has been teasing me in PMs about my SS (bought from el twe) the last few days--- and now you post his finished work! I'll go to sleep tonight dreaming about my "hand fillet brazed Chicago Schwinn". While your's has gone more causual as a fixie/SS, mine will try to morph into an Italian stallion. BTW, I picked up a pair of the shorty fenders for my SS, but have decided to use them on my tandem instead.

Your Sunset Orange looks to be in minty shape. What a nice pair! Thanks for sharing the pics!

bigwoo
10-14-07, 05:15 PM
Oooh Big Woo--- Dr.D. has been teasing me in PMs about my SS (bought from el twe) the last few days--- and now you post his finished work! I'll go to sleep tonight dreaming about my "hand fillet brazed Chicago Schwinn". While your's has gone more causual as a fixie/SS, mine will try to morph into an Italian stallion. BTW, I picked up a pair of the shorty fenders for my SS, but have decided to use them on my tandem instead.

Your Sunset Orange looks to be in minty shape. What a nice pair! Thanks for sharing the pics!

Thanks Pastorbob, I know that the Campus Green model came from San Fran Cyclery brand new in '71, but never have known where the Orange one came from....

pastorbobnlnh
10-14-07, 05:23 PM
Thanks Pastorbob, I know that the Campus Green model came from San Fran Cyclery brand new in '71, but never have known where the Orange one came from....

Yes! I had forgotten about our connected SS Schwinns from the same dealer. Just to keep the pictures rolling, the San Francisco Cyclery SS I found at the dump.
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p71/pastorbobnlnh/Super%20Sports/P1000414.jpg

el twe
10-14-07, 05:27 PM
Can't wait to see pictures of my old SS done right by Dr. D!

stringbreaker
10-14-07, 05:36 PM
PB did you repaint that frame?

Grand Bois
10-14-07, 05:37 PM
I'm going to shellac the tan cork bar tape on my project continental. Are the grips darker in reality than the picture shows

You can use wood stain to make them any color you want to before you apply the shellac. I have one set stained to match Brooks antique brown and two sets stained to match Brooks honey. It took multiple colors of stain and multiple tries to get it right, but it was a fun project.

pastorbobnlnh
10-14-07, 05:49 PM
Can't wait to see pictures of my old SS done right by Dr. D!

I can't wait to see the frame!


PB did you repaint that frame?

It's original. It has some rust problems on the underside of the top tube. I should sand down those areas and prime them--- or if someone is interested in this SS for their own restoration, PM me. :)

bigbossman
10-14-07, 05:56 PM
I love the bike (the fenders not so much).

I know that shorty fenders don't work so well from a practical standpoint, but I love the way they look. The work well asthetically.... at least to my eye. Of course, I don't care for fenders on my bikes in general - don't have a use for them as I'm a fair-weather rider. :D

Bigwoo - you traded those Rigida 3120's I traded you, for those campy wheels? Nice!! :)

bigwoo
10-14-07, 06:12 PM
I know that shorty fenders don't work so well from a practical standpoint, but I love the way they look. The work well asthetically.... at least to my eye. Of course, I don't care for fenders on my bikes in general - don't have a use for them as I'm a fair-weather rider. :D

Bigwoo - you traded those Rigida 3120's I traded you, for those campy wheels? Nice!! :)

Yes BBM!!
I have a riding bud who was working on a '73 Gitane, and the anodized black Campagnolo's just looked downright out of era/awful on his bike. He had been pining for an "aged" looking pair of rims with high-flange hubs, so that was extremely lucky timing on my part, and he did kind of owe me for giving him a set of Cinelli bars a while back... :)

bigbossman
10-14-07, 06:45 PM
Yes BBM!!
I have a riding bud who was working on a '73 Gitane, and the anodized black Campagnolo's just looked downright out of era/awful on his bike. He had been pining for an "aged" looking pair of rims with high-flange hubs, so that was extremely lucky timing on my part, and he did kind of owe me for giving him a set of Cinelli bars a while back... :)

That Rigida set was nice - I hated to give them up, but I had no use for them and I was more than happy with our trade. Since then, I've picked up a couple of other nice vintage sets - both Mavic MA-2's, so I'm good with vintage wheelsets again. :)

It's great when stuff comes together, eh? :beer:

Lamplight
10-14-07, 07:00 PM
Looks great! The Schwinn bag is a nice addition as well. :)

USAZorro
10-14-07, 07:09 PM
It's beginning to look a lot like Christmas - and Dr. D like Santa - or at least his ace bike painter. :)

stringbreaker
10-14-07, 08:25 PM
PB That frame is too big for my short and dumpy body or I would get serious about it.

Kommisar89
10-14-07, 09:37 PM
Beautiful bike. Normally I'm not a big fan of fixie conversions but given the odd ideas Schwinn seemd to have about equipment in those days (i.e. - stem mounted shifters, suicide levers, one piece crank, pie plate dork disk) I think it was a wise choice. Very nicely done.

repechage
10-14-07, 09:42 PM
I ilke the bike, but it looks like the fork is bent at the crown, as it appears to have too much rake, the blades typically will align with the steering axis for the upper 5 to 7 inches, this one looks "kicked out"

bigwoo
10-14-07, 09:51 PM
Beautiful bike. Normally I'm not a big fan of fixie conversions but given the odd ideas Schwinn seemd to have about equipment in those days (i.e. - stem mounted shifters, suicide levers, one piece crank, pie plate dork disk) I think it was a wise choice. Very nicely done.

Thank you,
I've got a few stock/original schwinn's and I wanted something different. I'm not going to change my other SS or my '71 Sports Tourer, but I do feel that fillet brazed models deserve far better than the original components.

I'm going to be watching Pastorbob's "Italian Stallion" build very closely!!

pastorbobnlnh
10-15-07, 07:50 PM
Just a little tease of what's instore for me and my Supper Sport which the good Doctor Deltron sent my way tonight. :) Progress is being made! We talk in the morning. :D
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p71/pastorbobnlnh/Super%20Sports/SuperSportPaintProgress1.jpg

USAZorro
10-15-07, 08:12 PM
Just a little tease of what's instore for me and my Supper Sport which the good Doctor Deltron sent my way tonight. :) Progress is being made! We talk in the morning. :D
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p71/pastorbobnlnh/Super%20Sports/SuperSportPaintProgress1.jpg

Would it happen to be in training for the hot dog eating competition? :D :p

It looks seriously beautiful. :)

el twe
10-15-07, 08:35 PM
Those fillets look better than ever.

stringbreaker
10-15-07, 10:06 PM
Oh Man Its Red

Dr.Deltron
10-15-07, 11:51 PM
Oh Man Its Red

Oh it's reder than in the picture for sure!

That's about 7 coats of CANDY red over very sparkly silver, along with some extra sparkle added to coats 4 & 5 of the red. Then 2 coats of clear.

Next I'll pearlize/sparkle the white seattube panel. Then it gets scuffed, pinstripes added, decals applied and the final clear coats.

Which will be in time for me to hand it off to Santa, so he can leave it under Pastor Bob's Christmas tree. ;)

Thank you all for the kind words!
I am working as fast and as carefully as I can, to get some more finished soon.

Especially Corky, which is now a beautiful NONsparkly blue!
Now all I need to do is get the hang of pinstriping again, then I can stripe the lugs, add those $1,000 decals and clear it. :p

Which may seem simple, but in reality it's like reaching lightspeed. The closer you get to it, the harder it is to get closer.
Endevour to perservere, as I always say!
And eventually, it will get done.
Along with the SS, the Raleigh Pro, the PX-10 & that classic mixte build.

Then I've got 15-20 Rock Lobster frames for a race team headed my way! :eek:
(hope they want those for the '09 season) :roflmao:

Last, but definately NOT least, THANK YOU BIG WOO! The family & I appreciate your patronage!
And the thread! ;)
The bike looks great! I hope our combined input means that that bike will be on the road for the NEXT 36 years! Enjoy!

Dr. D

pastorbobnlnh
10-16-07, 02:54 AM
Oh man do I deserve to have my chops busted! :o "Supper Sport" indeed? :rolleyes: I had just come home from a 16 hour day at the church and was beat--- but did my eyes light up when I found the email from Dr.D.:love: Here's a shot at the whole Super Sport frame.
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p71/pastorbobnlnh/Super%20Sports/SuperSportPaintProgressframe.jpg

barndoor
10-16-07, 04:18 AM
MOMMY!

Oh my....I can't wait to see the finished product!

I believe Dr.D may get some of my business in the future! :)

pastorbobnlnh
10-16-07, 05:48 AM
Just in case folks don't remember what I bought from el twe back in the spring, here's a pic of how he sent it to me. In the full Dr.Deltron frame shot above, it has a different fork. el twe's had a stuck stem so I bartered a new one with chrome socks from Sierra. The chrome is hiding under all the tape!
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p71/pastorbobnlnh/Super%20Sports/SSframeforkcrankside.jpg

stringbreaker
10-16-07, 06:26 AM
P.B. Are you going with the one piece crank or a 3 piece?

pastorbobnlnh
10-16-07, 06:59 AM
P.B. Are you going with the one piece crank or a 3 piece?

Adapter + 3 piece Campagnolo Record crankset, Campagnolo shifters and derailleurs, Campagnolo levers and (hopefully) Campagnolo calipers :rolleyes: (lots of fingers crossed on this last one). Thus, the "American-Italian Stallion" Which is kind of funny because I am so far from ever being a racer!

stringbreaker
10-16-07, 07:42 AM
Will those Campy parts be vintage or a mix of newer and older stuff? Its not as convoluted as the Continental project with its Shimano/Schwinn/Regina/Tru-vativ and whatever else I can throw on it. Sounds like its gonna be a beauty to look at and to ride.

pastorbobnlnh
10-16-07, 04:31 PM
It will be a mix of Campagnolo vintages, old to new. I'm not that picky about specifics.

bbattle
10-16-07, 05:06 PM
You can use wood stain to make them any color you want to before you apply the shellac. I have one set stained to match Brooks antique brown and two sets stained to match Brooks honey. It took multiple colors of stain and multiple tries to get it right, but it was a fun project.

Shoe polish works, too.

USAZorro
10-16-07, 10:30 PM
Yellow cotton tape with a few coats of the "blonde" Velo Orange shellac is a pretty good match for Brooks' honey.