Bekologist
11-12-07, 10:21 PM
Don't get me wrong, I'm a huge proponent of wearing bright/visible clothing (much bigger than Robert - let's put it that way). I just happened to learn that in normal good lighting circumstances, it doesn't seem to make much of a difference, at least when I'm using conspicuous lane positioning.
:roflmao: ah, the grand delusions of the armchair ideologue! hahahahaHAHAHAhahaha.
head, you ride (I think) in San Diego, supposedly in rush hour traffic, occasionally. Last time I checked, there's a fair amount of traffic in San diego.
Relying on lane position for safety, particularily when conspicious lane position is only a part time situation, is seriously a pile of steaming ludicrousness.
What, pray tell, does helemt head rely on when he isn't in a conspicuous lane position? the 'panache' of a black jacket he bought off a racer dude? head, you like to pretend you're a bicycle racer, dontchya? poseur!
maybe you should try a lime green fedora, head. motorists might see you better.
Are you running current gen, high powered, daytime visible front & back LEDS to increase your conspicuity regardless of your lane position? of COURSE you're not, you think lane position is your ace in the hole.
ah, fallacies of the armchair rider. good luck, head. you need it!
It's counter-intuitive, I know. But I find centerish lane positioning to be so effective at establishing conspicuity early that any advantage that comes from bright clothing to be negligible.
That's not just counter-intuitive, head- it's idiotic! because bicyclists are never consistently in a primary lane position - yet you postulate you rely on something you only posess part of the time on the roads. Isn't there traffic in San Diego?
Notice that this is consistent with the type of experience Beck reports. With Robert, who, despite what the Mercedes incident and his analysis of it might lead one to think, probably does not ride as far right quite as often as Beck blah blah blah.... Head, you skew my riding. I'm confident I 'take the lane' a lot more miles a week than you, head. I'm quite assertive in my bicycle positioning. I ride, daily, in left hand lanes of four lane roads and use inside lanes of four lanes at traffic signals. All lanes of multi lane arterials, all lane and road positions.
The most common reaction by motorists to a bicyclist as they approach an intersection, regardless of road position or assertiveness, is the averted eyes glance right thru the bicyclist.
do you see that, head? in plain english? or out on the road? Bicyclists, REGARDLESS OF ROAD POSITION, get overlooked. motorists look right thru us. of course, you don't think so. Newbie!
Again, good luck in your black jacket in traffic, hed. you'll need it!
:roflmao: ah, the grand delusions of the armchair ideologue! hahahahaHAHAHAhahaha.
head, you ride (I think) in San Diego, supposedly in rush hour traffic, occasionally. Last time I checked, there's a fair amount of traffic in San diego.
Relying on lane position for safety, particularily when conspicious lane position is only a part time situation, is seriously a pile of steaming ludicrousness.
What, pray tell, does helemt head rely on when he isn't in a conspicuous lane position? the 'panache' of a black jacket he bought off a racer dude? head, you like to pretend you're a bicycle racer, dontchya? poseur!
maybe you should try a lime green fedora, head. motorists might see you better.
Are you running current gen, high powered, daytime visible front & back LEDS to increase your conspicuity regardless of your lane position? of COURSE you're not, you think lane position is your ace in the hole.
ah, fallacies of the armchair rider. good luck, head. you need it!
It's counter-intuitive, I know. But I find centerish lane positioning to be so effective at establishing conspicuity early that any advantage that comes from bright clothing to be negligible.
That's not just counter-intuitive, head- it's idiotic! because bicyclists are never consistently in a primary lane position - yet you postulate you rely on something you only posess part of the time on the roads. Isn't there traffic in San Diego?
Notice that this is consistent with the type of experience Beck reports. With Robert, who, despite what the Mercedes incident and his analysis of it might lead one to think, probably does not ride as far right quite as often as Beck blah blah blah.... Head, you skew my riding. I'm confident I 'take the lane' a lot more miles a week than you, head. I'm quite assertive in my bicycle positioning. I ride, daily, in left hand lanes of four lane roads and use inside lanes of four lanes at traffic signals. All lanes of multi lane arterials, all lane and road positions.
The most common reaction by motorists to a bicyclist as they approach an intersection, regardless of road position or assertiveness, is the averted eyes glance right thru the bicyclist.
do you see that, head? in plain english? or out on the road? Bicyclists, REGARDLESS OF ROAD POSITION, get overlooked. motorists look right thru us. of course, you don't think so. Newbie!
Again, good luck in your black jacket in traffic, hed. you'll need it!