Training & Nutrition - worst diet ever

So i am on a diet! I can eat vegetables, fruit, brown rice, 8 ozs of lean meat, 2 eggs for breakfast. I am dying. THe eggs are the best part! the fruit and vegetables don't fill me up, the 8oz of meat isn't enough(its actually 3-4 ozs twice a day. All i can drink is water(not a big deal). 2 weeks five days to go. I cheated the first night, i had 2 teaspoons of ice cream. HELP!!!!!!!!!!!

Vegetable do fill a person up, but sometimes it is the craving of other food makes you want to be hungry, so mentally you are not full.

No breads or grain? How much are you riding? At all?

edit: i need to read better, i see rice on there. nevermind.

What is your goal of this diet? Weight loss, a fast perhaps, or merely want to eat better?

That's actually close to what I eat, minus the eggs and meat, and plus oatmeal, peas, carrots, apples, beans, and occasionally pasta.

I recommend the oatmeal--it's pretty filling, can be eaten for breakfast or a late night snack, and you can add honey for a bit of sweets.

Its a diet that is clearly defficient in nutrients and calories with the aim of rapid weight loss, IF you can stick too it but those diets don't have much of a record success because they are nearly impossible to stay on.

For a start its dangerously defficient in FAT. It sounds very much like a Southbeach diet which is nutritionaly defficient.

Personaly I loose weight safely and reasonably easy on a high FAT diet that's low in carbs and sugars. When I add the carbs/starches back I gain weight again but then this diet isn't for everyone.

OK high fat diets work for someone like me and high carb diets work for others. It depends on what YOUR metabolism is suited to. See Dr Mercola's site and look into Metabolic type diets, http://www.mercola.com/

I also follow dietry guidlines of the Weston A Price Foundation which is more about good nutrition than weight loss realy, http://www.westonaprice.org/ but then again good nutrition makes it easier to loose weight safely.

Regards, Anthony

WHY are you on a diet? Is it because you've got allergies or intolerances to other food?

Maybe you should increase the amount of time you spend exercising, just so that you can "cheat" a little bit. Completely depriving yourself of non-healthy foods is not fun at all. I know that for me, not eating enough salty or fatty foods totally messes me up to the point where I'm just sitting around dreaming about what I wish I could be eating. Seriously, just add a few more hours a week to your workout, and reward yourself once a week or so (but not too much!). Good luck!

No serious cyclist should ever really be on a "diet" per se.

Judging by your list of foods, I doubt you're breaking 1500 calories a day. That seems awfully low if you're looking to maintain performance too.

Whoever said you need fat is completely right. Granted, you don't want too much of it the night before a race, but it should be about 20-25% of your calories.

No serious cyclist should ever really be on a "diet" per se.

Judging by your list of foods, I doubt you're breaking 1500 calories a day. That seems awfully low if you're looking to maintain performance too.

Whoever said you need fat is completely right. Granted, you don't want too much of it the night before a race, but it should be about 20-25% of your calories.

Ive been wondering, is this why you rarely see a cyclist with 6-pack abs? Maybe we need the extra fat...?

Ive been wondering, is this why you rarely see a cyclist with 6-pack abs? Maybe we need the extra fat...?

Well how often do you see people with six pack in general? It's really hard to get.

Well how often do you see people with six pack in general? It's really hard to get.

Very true.

Maybe you should increase the amount of time you spend exercising, just so that you can "cheat" a little bit. Completely depriving yourself of non-healthy foods is not fun at all. I know that for me, not eating enough salty or fatty foods totally messes me up to the point where I'm just sitting around dreaming about what I wish I could be eating. Seriously, just add a few more hours a week to your workout, and reward yourself once a week or so (but not too much!). Good luck!

+1 or +10000000000

:p

When I sit around and am forced to reduce my calories and toss the salty, sugary, and fatty foods the cravings just get worse and worse till I give in. Riding gives me an opportunity to indulge a tad. That small amount of junk keeps the cravings at bay.

because a six pack is muscle, to get one you need to build muscle.

How do you build muscle.

You eat, you eat alot.

Cyclist typicly are racing snakes, not bulky guys.

because a six pack is muscle, to get one you need to build muscle.

How do you build muscle.

You eat, you eat alot.

Cyclist typicly are racing snakes, not bulky guys.

Building muscle isn't all that goes into a 6-pack -- you need a very low body fat percentage so that the muscles show.

I'm reminded of this every day, when I look at my midsection and don't see a 6-pack. :p

Every one has a six pack, thats everyone.

The problem is its hiden by fat under the skin.

To show the six pack reduce the fat around it and you will see it, just

To have a proper six pack you need to build the muscle there just like every other muscle in the body, to do that you have to eat.

simple really.

Building muscle is very important for any man. Remember the movie, "Saving Private Ryan" where the Jewish guy got his own bayonet shoved into his chest by the kraut? If only he could bench an additional 20 lbs...

Stay safe, fellas. Watch out for krauts on the trails. Peace.

Ride your bike more.
A few summers ago I was riding 40-45 miles a day, 5-6 days a week and eating like a horse and still lost 20 pounds during the summer.

the problem is right now i am applying to college, and have a bunch of other stuff going on, i haven't been home before 7:00 in a couple of days, i have ridden twice in the last month(which is terrible, and i miss it), i have't watched tv in three weeks, I have watched movies in school but thats about it. By the way, i have decided to stay on the diet during the day, and then at dinner time, i will eat a more filling but no bad for me meal. I eat $4.00 worth of cantalope for lunch with a bottle of diet soda or water. Breakfast is eggs, dinner is usually what the rest of the family is having minus the good stuff, and more of the okay stuff.

the problem is right now i am applying to college, and have a bunch of other stuff going on, i haven't been home before 7:00 in a couple of days, i have ridden twice in the last month(which is terrible, and i miss it), i have't watched tv in three weeks, I have watched movies in school but thats about it. By the way, i have decided to stay on the diet during the day, and then at dinner time, i will eat a more filling but no bad for me meal. I eat $4.00 worth of cantalope for lunch with a bottle of diet soda or water. Breakfast is eggs, dinner is usually what the rest of the family is having minus the good stuff, and more of the okay stuff.

Yes, but WHY are you on the diet? What is your purpose behind dieting ... your goal?

I'm in University right now. My schedule is something like this:

Monday 10 am - drive 2 hours to where I park; walk 2 kms to my class; attend classes until 7 pm; walk 2 kms back to my car; drive 1/2 hour to where I stay on Monday nights

Tuesday 7 am - drive 1/2 hour to where I park; walk 2 kms to my class; attend classes until 2:30 pm; walk 2 kms back to my car; drive 2 hours back home

And repeat on Wednesday & Thursday. My course load and homework load are quite heavy as well, and I have started working on Saturdays.

Therefore, keeping in shape can be challenging. So ... I end up walking 16 kms a week because of where I park my car. I could take the bus for free from where I park my car, but then I would miss out on the walk. The first couple weeks of walking were a challenge for me. I haven't walked that much in years! But now, it's great! And it's especially great that my legs feel so much more toned.

And I ride my bicycle on the weekends. I make a point of doing a fairly long ride (3+ hours) on one of the three days, and shorter rides on the other two days.

As for food ... my "diet" so to speak ... I'm on the Budget Diet. :D I can eat whatever I want each day, as long as I don't spend more than $5 a day for food. It can be a bit of a challenge some days to stay under that amount ... and I'm usually a little bit hungry ... but that's OK, I'm getting used to it. In the past, by this time of year, I'm often starting to put on a little bit of winter weight ... but not this year. :)


A suggestion for you might be to go for a ride at 7:00 when you get home. If you are uncomfortable with the idea of riding outside, get a trainer and ride inside ... you can even watch TV at the same time. Ride for an hour on the trainer each evening, and then settle down to do your homework. You'll find that the ride gives you energy. Also if there is any way to get more walking into your schedule, go for it ...... things like parking a couple of km away from the school, or getting off the bus a few stops early, etc.

the problem is right now i am applying to college, and have a bunch of other stuff going on, i haven't been home before 7:00 in a couple of days, i have ridden twice in the last month(which is terrible, and i miss it), i have't watched tv in three weeks, I have watched movies in school but thats about it. By the way, i have decided to stay on the diet during the day, and then at dinner time, i will eat a more filling but no bad for me meal. I eat $4.00 worth of cantalope for lunch with a bottle of diet soda or water. Breakfast is eggs, dinner is usually what the rest of the family is having minus the good stuff, and more of the okay stuff.

Oh goodness, rid the diet soda! The artifical sweetner (aspartame usually) will really mess things up.

So i am on a diet! I can eat vegetables, fruit, brown rice, 8 ozs of lean meat, 2 eggs for breakfast. I am dying. THe eggs are the best part! the fruit and vegetables don't fill me up, the 8oz of meat isn't enough(its actually 3-4 ozs twice a day. All i can drink is water(not a big deal). 2 weeks five days to go. I cheated the first night, i had 2 teaspoons of ice cream. HELP!!!!!!!!!!!



you are not on a diet...

you said you cheated.


FAIL

Yes, but WHY are you on the diet? What is your purpose behind dieting ... your goal?

I'm in University right now. My schedule is something like this:

Monday 10 am - drive 2 hours to where I park; walk 2 kms to my class; attend classes until 7 pm; walk 2 kms back to my car; drive 1/2 hour to where I stay on Monday nights

Tuesday 7 am - drive 1/2 hour to where I park; walk 2 kms to my class; attend classes until 2:30 pm; walk 2 kms back to my car; drive 2 hours back home

And repeat on Wednesday & Thursday. My course load and homework load are quite heavy as well, and I have started working on Saturdays.

Therefore, keeping in shape can be challenging. So ... I end up walking 16 kms a week because of where I park my car. I could take the bus for free from where I park my car, but then I would miss out on the walk. The first couple weeks of walking were a challenge for me. I haven't walked that much in years! But now, it's great! And it's especially great that my legs feel so much more toned.

And I ride my bicycle on the weekends. I make a point of doing a fairly long ride (3+ hours) on one of the three days, and shorter rides on the other two days.

As for food ... my "diet" so to speak ... I'm on the Budget Diet. :D I can eat whatever I want each day, as long as I don't spend more than $5 a day for food. It can be a bit of a challenge some days to stay under that amount ... and I'm usually a little bit hungry ... but that's OK, I'm getting used to it. In the past, by this time of year, I'm often starting to put on a little bit of winter weight ... but not this year. :)


A suggestion for you might be to go for a ride at 7:00 when you get home. If you are uncomfortable with the idea of riding outside, get a trainer and ride inside ... you can even watch TV at the same time. Ride for an hour on the trainer each evening, and then settle down to do your homework. You'll find that the ride gives you energy. Also if there is any way to get more walking into your schedule, go for it ...... things like parking a couple of km away from the school, or getting off the bus a few stops early, etc.
unfortunatly in my town five dollars, will feed me for lunch. Today my lunch was more exspensive than usual at 7.50 ish, i had a clif bar, a 4.00 thing of cantalope, probably a whole cantalope, and a diet doctor peper, which is disgusting. usually i have a water and a thing of cantalope

unfortunatly in my town five dollars, will feed me for lunch. Today my lunch was more exspensive than usual at 7.50 ish, i had a clif bar, a 4.00 thing of cantalope, probably a whole cantalope, and a diet doctor peper, which is disgusting. usually i have a water and a thing of cantalope

A banana at the local Safeway is $0.25. That's breakfast. A bagal at Safeway is $0.65. That's lunch. A Wendy's Junior Cheeseburger Deluxe (that's the one with the tomato and lettuce, so I'm getting my veggies) is $1.47. And a donut for desert at Safeway is $0.48. Total: $2.85 for one day's worth of food.

I buy the Crystal Light or Nestea singles to spruce up my water, and a box of tea bags for hot drinks. Both of those last a while, and might add an extra $0.50 to the cost of the day's food total.

A banana at the local Safeway is $0.25. That's breakfast. A bagal at Safeway is $0.65. That's lunch. A Wendy's Junior Cheeseburger Deluxe (that's the one with the tomato and lettuce, so I'm getting my veggies) is $1.47. And a donut for desert at Safeway is $0.48. Total: $2.85 for one day's worth of food.

I buy the Crystal Light or Nestea singles to spruce up my water, and a box of tea bags for hot drinks. Both of those last a while, and might add an extra $0.50 to the cost of the day's food total.

damn thats impressive! a banana where i live is probably twice that or more! you eat the same thing everyday

damn thats impressive! a banana where i live is probably twice that or more! you eat the same thing everyday

"Ingredients:

CARBONATED WATER, CARAMEL COLOR, ASPARTAME, PHOSPHORIC ACID, ARTIFICIAL AND NATURAL FLAVORS, SODIUM BENZOATE (PRESERVATIVE). PHENYLKETONURICS: CONTAINS PHENYLALANINE"

http://www.rense.com/general3/asper.htm <read that.

damn thats impressive! a banana where i live is probably twice that or more! you eat the same thing everyday

Yeah, Monday to Thursday is pretty much the same thing ... sometimes I'll substitute another bagal for the donut, or add an extra banana or something.

On the weekends, I'm fortunate to be able to go home, and so I eat whatever's there.

If I were to buy bananas from any of the convenience stores in the immediate vicinity of the University, they are going for $1.00 a piece. But when I walk out to where my car is parked, there's a Safeway on the way, and the bananas are much less expensive there. Same with the bagals ... near the University a bagal goes for maybe $2 (or more if you add some toppings) ... walk out a ways, and they are quite a bit less expensive.

A banana at the local Safeway is $0.25. That's breakfast.

Oatmeal is a very filling breakfast for me, and very cheap if you stay away from those little packages with all of that extra sweetner and flavor-ceuticals added. I buy the bulk stuff - usually around 80-90 cents/pound for organic rolled oats. I cook it in the microwave, but you could do it on the stove too.

Oatmeal is a very filling breakfast for me, and very cheap if you stay away from those little packages with all of that extra sweetner and flavor-ceuticals added. I buy the bulk stuff - usually around 80-90 cents/pound for organic rolled oats. I cook it in the microwave, but you could do it on the stove too.

I have no stove or microwave to work with during the week. I've got a mattress on the floor of someone's sewing room which I can use for the later part of the evening and night.

But about oatmeal, I've never found it filling. I can eat oatmeal, and 30 minutes later I'm starving!! Even a banana seems more filling. I know lots of people who do find it filling, but I never have.

fruit and vegetables don't fill me up,

So eat more, with a higher frequency. If a large bowl of veggies isn't enough, eat another one. Simple.

At least for me, one key to feeling "filled up" is time. There seems to be a lag between eating and my body triggering the "satisfied" signal: if I sit down to a meal and eat continuously until I get the signal, I end up overeating (sometimes by a huge amount).

So, through trial and error, I have figured out how much I need to get that "full" feeling about 10-20 minutes AFTER I finish eating. If I don't feel full after that time, I can always eat a little more.

10-19-07, 01:10 PM #29
Machka
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Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Canada Originally Posted by ericy Oatmeal is a very filling breakfast for me, and very cheap if you stay away from those little packages with all of that extra sweetner and flavor-ceuticals added. I buy the bulk stuff - usually around 80-90 cents/pound for organic rolled oats. I cook it in the microwave, but you could do it on the stove too.

I have no stove or microwave to work with during the week. I've got a mattress on the floor of someone's sewing room which I can use for the later part of the evening and night.

But about oatmeal, I've never found it filling. I can eat oatmeal, and 30 minutes later I'm starving!! Even a banana seems more filling. I know lots of people who do find it filling, but I never have.


Fix twice as much Steel-cut or Irish oatmeal, cook 20+ minutes, add lots of raisins, Flax seeds, some cinamon and eat as much as needed. If theres some left, use a baggie and keep it cold. Great left-over....---And the best part is, if you fill up on it, it will hold you 4 or more hours.

I would recommend counting calories for a while to get an idea of what you're consuming and what you're burning. Not to be a slave to counting calories, but to gain a better sense of what you are doing. There are plenty of web sites out there (like calorie-count.com for example). It is a pain to keep up with them, but not so bad once you get your standard foods and activities entered, you can just use them again instead of searching for them.

I was on a relatively low calorie diet for a while to lose weight, but when I neared my target I quickly found I didn't have enough energy to cycle hard. Time to start eating again! Having gained a bit of sense of how many calories are the food I'm eating and how many I am burning on the bike help me make better choices.

Fix twice as much Steel-cut or Irish oatmeal, cook 20+ minutes, add lots of raisins, Flax seeds, some cinamon and eat as much as needed. If theres some left, use a baggie and keep it cold. Great left-over....---And the best part is, if you fill up on it, it will hold you 4 or more hours.

The steel-cut stuff is always a pain for me to deal with. The 20-minutes cooking time is what is the major nuisance. I tried cooking in an electric rice cooker, but there is too much heat at the end and it boils over and makes a mess. I tried putting it in on the 'warm' setting, and then it took hours to cook - I suppose you could set it up the night before. Using a regular pan on the stove means you are stuck standing there stirring it, and have another dish to wash up every day.

Usually I just use organic rolled oats, add the appropriate amount of water, and throw it in a bowl in the microwave for 6 minutes on power level 4 (lower the power to keep it from boiling over and making a mess). For myself I don't add anything else except a bit of salt. My own preference is to let it get cold and eat it that way without any milk...