"The 33"-Road Bike Racing - Collegiate Riders

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asmallsol
10-19-07, 03:55 PM
Wondering how many people here do collegiate racing. Who do you guys ride for? My school, Michigan Tech, is organizing our first road team. I was wondering, how do the collegiate categories compare to the competition in standard road categories? Cat C = to about cat 3?
Duke of Kent
10-19-07, 03:59 PM
D= Beginner, C= Cat 5, B=4/5, A=1/2/3
The races are smaller at the high end (A) compared to the field sizes I see in my races during the summer. There isn't a limit on the field sizes in the C's or D's, though, so there are a LOT of people in those races.
Usually the breakdown of starters in each race, for guys, is around 40-60 for A, same for B, 60+ for C, and 30ish for D. It really depends what race it is, and when it is. Nice courses that are centrally located, at times when no one has spring break or Little 500 (IU only...but they have a HUGE team) will draw the most, obviously.
joecool2727
10-19-07, 04:13 PM
Im a freshmen at California Polytechnic State University and just joined the cycling team. Right now its just mountain biking but im hoping to get serious about the road racing when the season starts.
Duke of Kent
10-19-07, 04:21 PM
Correction:
A=Pro/1/2/3
Treefox
10-19-07, 04:28 PM
We behave like grownups over here and race in the regular cats. ;)
Except for BUSA national races (kinda like NCAA), in which teams can put in anyone they like.
eskimo85
10-19-07, 05:08 PM
asmallsol, im on nmu's team. do you have a lot of people interested in a road team?
and +1 to dukes breakdown of the cats
CrimsonKarter21
10-19-07, 05:13 PM
I wish that MIAT had a cycling team, that would totally rock.
Duke of Kent
10-19-07, 05:13 PM
If you don't run into trees for no reason and can pedal your bike at 20mph with no assistance for decent stretches, start in the Cs.
How people don't maim themselves and others in the Ds is beyond me.
GatorFL
10-19-07, 05:34 PM
We don't have D's in the SEC. Instead, there are plenty of sketchy kids in the C's. They usually get dropped, though.
Duke of Kent
10-19-07, 05:42 PM
I wish that MIAT had a cycling team, that would totally rock.
Not sure if that's a college or not, but if it is:
1) make an organization through your school
2) contact the USAC and get them to recognize you as a club
3) buy a collegiate license
4) show up and get it handed to you
jkizzle
10-19-07, 06:31 PM
I wish that MIAT had a cycling team, that would totally rock.
so start one! its like 10 bucks to start a team...
oh and ill be representing KENTUCKY this spring
ill see you in the d/c's unless i become awesome fast... we are in the mwccc instead of the sec for some weird reason....
eskimo85
10-19-07, 06:41 PM
i even think the first year license is free. i started ours 2 years ago and its something ill never forget, go for it!
stea1thviper
10-19-07, 07:53 PM
Ill be racing for U of Illinois Urbana for the second year this coming spring. After that, hopefully for UC Riverside, but at this point who knows. Collegiate racing is a blast! Especially if you have awesome teammates like I did.
ilpirata87
10-19-07, 09:08 PM
I race at UNC-Chapel Hill, I'll be doing A's this year - it'll be fun to try to keep up with those guys. At least I'll have some teammates with me. Plus our kits are going to rock, we are going the argyle route this year, in keeping with a long-standing Tar Heel tradition.
Cyclologist
10-19-07, 09:33 PM
How people don't maim themselves and others in the Ds is beyond me.
nice.
Not too far from what I expected when I joined D's last Spring, although to my surprise, I made out at the end without having witnessed a single crash in the D's (although Breezy mentioned having been in one a weekend or two prior). Perhaps those who rode D's were such noobs (including myself) that they were fearful of crashing and rode more conservatively. As an example, at the Midwest regionals crit last season crashes didn't occur in succession until the B's went out.
Duke of Kent
10-19-07, 09:48 PM
nice.
Not too far from what I expected when I joined D's last Spring, although to my surprise, I made out at the end without having witnessed a single crash in the D's (although Breezy mentioned having been in one a weekend or two prior). Perhaps those who rode D's were such noobs (including myself) that they were fearful of crashing and rode more conservatively. As an example, at the Midwest regionals crit last season crashes didn't occur in succession until the B's went out.
You should have seen the Ds the year before. Actually, all in all, there were VERY few crashes this year. The only crashes I saw in the As were people taking solo flyers, carrying too much speed into corners, and washing out. I saw many in the As and Cs the year before, and was involved in three (3) in the Bs. I think JK went down twice and JM at least once. JC ate it in the womens a couple of times last year as well.
Perhaps the general absence of IU had a calming effect. And then, when they showed up for regionals, bad things happened.
joecool2727
10-19-07, 11:10 PM
U C L A
Your goin down.
You mean for tomorrow's game? Are you a CAL guy?
btw, it's "you're" not "your"
UmneyDurak
10-20-07, 02:26 AM
U C L A
See you in spring. ;)
P.S. and yes you are going down tomorrow. :)
Idioteque
10-20-07, 06:40 AM
I was in a D race, saw like 10 people crash out on a 180 degree turn, tons of fun.
I have a horrible D race experience though, i just bought a road bike and had it for a week. Before that i casually rode an 80s scwhinn, and not for about 6 months before i bought that new road bike.
So anyway, i got this thing and decided that (not knowing anything about training at all) it would be an amazing idea to train as hard as i can all week before the race. So i did, every single day for a week up to the last day before the race.
So i get there, ignore warming up, ride up to the group at the starting line.. attempt to clip out and fall over because it's my first week in clipess :). Announcer makes fun of me but i go on to the back of the group. I hang on for awhile but then we face some hills and i kinda blow up standing on them, then a shock hits my body that felt like i just trained too hard before and my legs suddenly were almost numb and in lots of pain. So right before the end of lap 1 out of 2 laps i think i got dropped... in a D race... still finished like 35/45 or something
So i guess that should have completely discouraged me from participating in another race ever again, but thing is, i had a blast riding that course and wanted to do it again. Since then i road biked on and off for 1.5 years and now im actually trying to "train" and ride consistently. I can hang on in "fast" group rides and hopefully i'll do a little better in Ds this year.
just wanted to share
Idioteque
10-20-07, 06:43 AM
D= Beginner, C= Cat 5, B=4/5, A=1/2/3
The races are smaller at the high end (A) compared to the field sizes I see in my races during the summer. There isn't a limit on the field sizes in the C's or D's, though, so there are a LOT of people in those races.
Usually the breakdown of starters in each race, for guys, is around 40-60 for A, same for B, 60+ for C, and 30ish for D. It really depends what race it is, and when it is. Nice courses that are centrally located, at times when no one has spring break or Little 500 (IU only...but they have a HUGE team) will draw the most, obviously.
there's actually a new pre-D category, i think it's just called Beginner. I'm not sure if it's always been there but i've heard of guys riding in it last year
jkizzle
10-20-07, 06:48 AM
yeah, i completely plan on being dropped in the d's and causing wrecks, even though i should probably be at c level by the time race season comes around.
watch out for the sweet retro uk jerseys, with a "big ***** fans" sponsor on my behind, as i drope the hammer past you and then wipe out and cause a wreck going into the following curve.
Idioteque
10-20-07, 07:02 AM
I would be quite upset if i crashed, simply because i don't have money to do much repair work, so i'm gonna try to stay up front and keep it that way.. shouldn't be too hard, those guys didnt even go fast last time i checked. I also hear difference between C and D level isn't that big and is mainly in the bike handling department.
shrug
Cyclologist
10-20-07, 08:49 AM
wow. I guess I got very lucky last season. I know I would've been pissed as hell if I wrecked my new bike... part of the reason I rode solo in a lot of parts I should've been sucking wheel. I still made out well and had a blast so I'm not complaining.
joecool2727
10-20-07, 09:32 AM
You mean for tomorrow's game? Are you a CAL guy?
btw, it's "you're" not "your"
No, im a cal poly guy and i believe we race eachother in the spring.
acorn_user
10-20-07, 11:43 AM
D was not a crash fest for us in the ACCC. It's a good place to start out. I did an SECC race in Georgia, and the lack of D in that conference was noticeable (in that there were a lot of raw beginners who got dropped quickly).
If you want crashes, ride B. C is ok. The problem is that there are a lot of riders. I think the riders are better at handling than D's, but not a great deal. C's are slightly harder, but the pack will drag you around if you can hang on.
Collegiate cycling is a great introduction to the sport. Those BUSA chaps in England are missing out. They only have three races a year! We have 3 a weekend :D
Of course, British Cycling does not offer a cat 5 either iirc. And nobody cares about collegiate sports outside of the boat race.
asmallsol
10-20-07, 03:48 PM
asmallsol, im on nmu's team. do you have a lot of people interested in a road team?
and +1 to dukes breakdown of the cats
We have about 8 or 9 people interested right now. Not many but good enough. I am on co-op this semester, so I haven't actually met any of the riders to find out their skill level. I'm a cat 4 currently, and will probably be moving up to three midway through next season. I just don't have a ton of starts to make the move yet since I've only been racing for a year. Based on the breakdown, I could do either b or c, but I don't know how the others are.
eskimo85
10-20-07, 05:20 PM
if you plan on catting up to 3 i would race atleast B's. thats very similar to a 4 field.
gtmandsager
10-22-07, 07:05 PM
Plus our kits are going to rock, we are going the argyle route this year, in keeping with a long-standing Tar Heel tradition.
Ilpirata, is there any way to buy a team jersey (not the standard cookie-cutter jerseys you can find online)? My future brother in law is a huge Tar Heel fan (their whole family is actually, the other brother played for Dean Smith) and I'd love to score some brownie points. Thanks.
I'm in the ECCC. Our Ds and Cs have similar handling skills... but the Cs go a lot faster, making the wrecks a lot worse. We didn't have many this year. Because of the snow, we also didn't have many races this year.
TehArrow
10-24-07, 06:35 PM
I think the C's in the ECCC are MUCH better at handling. I'll be in the B's this year, but I didn't think the C's were bad at all. When I was in the D's I feared for my life every race.
<-- Rutgers
snoboard2
10-24-07, 07:52 PM
I'm at university of alabama, and we're just starting back up from a few year hiatus. I haven't done collegiate racing yet, but i'm planning on doing Bs (the license says 4)
See you in spring. ;)
P.S. and yes you are going down tomorrow. :)
HAHA... I just read this post now. What was the score again?? 30-21, UCLA?? thank you
See you in spring
UmneyDurak
10-24-07, 09:32 PM
HAHA... I just read this post now. What was the score again?? 30-21, UCLA?? thank you
See you in spring
Pure luck. he he.
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