General Cycling Discussion - Highest possible gearing / All sorts

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ken cummings
10-19-07, 07:42 PM
Over the last couple of years I've seen several threads about lowest gears. I even started one myself. A quick search for highest gears didn't give me too much. So how about it? What kinds of highest gears do you have on your machines? 52 X 12s? Please distinguish between commercially available gearing including the Schlumpf system, homebrew using standard parts, and frankenbike creations. All are welcome. I have a 44 X 14 on my commuter bike and know of a nearly 400 gear-inch high on John Howards' Bonneville speed bike.
NoRacer
10-19-07, 07:57 PM
53 x 11 - all Shimano Ultegra
Bekologist
10-19-07, 09:29 PM
i think some folding bikes come with 64-68 tooth big rings. but, they are using 16 or 20 inch wheels.
I got 52x11 and 53x11 on my 700c road bikes. pretty sufficient for me, i've got to be going downhill to take advantage of gearing that high.
You can get some bigass chainrings for the old-school TA Cyclotouriste cranks (http://www.sheldonbrown.com/harris/french-cranks.html) (up to 68t, with larger sizes available). Combine that with a cassette with an 11t cog, and you've got a recipe for some ridiculous gearing.
53 x 11 - all Shimano Ultegra
This is what I used to have.
I now have a 48 x 11.
A friend of mine works in a machine shop, and builds recumbents. He's got his own brand name - Peterbuilt. But he also does some work with a HPV team, and machines their Cos2 chain ring. He showed me the one he was sending them for an event ... that thing was HUGE!
I just did a search on the internet and came with a little bit of info about that chain ring:
http://www.recumbents.com/wisil/cos2/cos2progress.htm
StephenH
10-19-07, 11:09 PM
The "Track Racing- pulled by motorcycle" thread on the track racing forum mentions a 63x16 arrangement, i think it is.
fat_bike_nut
10-19-07, 11:47 PM
I dunno if it would work with a full size bike and mega-huge chainring combo, but the Shimano Capreo Cassette for folding bikes goes as low as NINE (9) Teeth. 68T/9T = insanely high :eek:
I'd think that you would need some monster quads to push that. Or help from gravity going down a hill...
well biked
10-20-07, 06:57 AM
Don't forget that a big part of the gear inch formula is the outside diameter of the drive wheel. Outside diameter of drive wheel (in inches) times number of teeth on front sprocket divided by the number of teeth on the rear sprocket equals gear inches.
As far as my own bikes, I've got nothing unusual to report in regard to gear inches.
MichaelW
10-20-07, 08:18 AM
This bike (http://www.bikebrothers.co.uk/ultimatebike.htm)was used for a static roller cycling record so no air resistance was ivolved.
http://www.bikebrothers.co.uk/bruce_files/jetbc.jpg
roadfix
10-20-07, 11:10 AM
As far as my own bikes, I've got nothing unusual to report in regard to gear inches.
Me too. I don't need more than 100 GI.
This bike (http://www.bikebrothers.co.uk/ultimatebike.htm)was used for a static roller cycling record so no air resistance was ivolved.
So why the aeoro stuff?
52/11 for me, or 48/12 depending on bike. First is stock, second, I'm not sure.
Doug5150
10-20-07, 06:02 PM
Over the last couple of years I've seen several threads about lowest gears. I even started one myself. A quick search for highest gears didn't give me too much. So how about it? What kinds of highest gears do you have on your machines? 52 X 12s? ...
Some recumbents come standard with 60+T rings, but these usually have a 20" rear wheel and no mid-drive.
One of the tadpole trikes (a Greenspeed I think) has a 70T big ring standard--but once again, the reason for that is that it's got a little rear wheel, 20" or 16".
Hostel Shoppe (online, and which caters to recumbents) has a couple different brands of chainrings, up to 68T with a couple larger I think. They had one that went to 80T a couple years ago; the only thing I can imagine that would be used on normally would be that there are lowracers that use 16" wheels front and rear.
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CaptainCool
10-20-07, 07:36 PM
Sheldon Brown pushing a 72T ring (http://sheldonbrown.org/journal/images/640/scb-on-moulton-9-71.jpg). (From this page (http://sheldonbrown.org/bicycle.html).) Again, small wheels. There are also cassettes that go down to 9T for folders.
BlazingPedals
10-20-07, 08:12 PM
Another recumbent here. I've got a 26x1.25 tire and run a 56/11 high gear. That makes for about 125 gear-inches. Mine is more-or-less standard stuff: 105 crank with Vuelta 30/44/56 chainrings and a SRAM 11-30 cassette.
One reason I can't ride as fast as BlazingPedals is that I also run a 56x11 high gear, but with a 20x1.5 tire.
SluggishPedals
GRedner
10-21-07, 09:53 PM
There are no numbers, but a couple of neat images on this page:
http://www.canosoarus.com/08LSRbicycle/LSR%20Bike02.htm
Note the double-reduction drivetrain in the second image!
CaptainCool
10-21-07, 11:11 PM
There are no numbers, but a couple of neat images on this page:
http://www.canosoarus.com/08LSRbicycle/LSR%20Bike02.htm
Note the double-reduction drivetrain in the second image!
Let's see.
139mph (first picture) at 180rpm on 20" wheels is a gear ratio of about 13. That's something like 115x9.
152mph (second picture) at 180rpm on 20" wheels is a gear ratio of about 14.5. That's something like 53x12 on the first chain and 40x12 on the second.
While I'm at it, that "Ultimate Bike" above did 207mph on rollers. Assuming 700c wheels and 180rpm again, the gear ratio is 15. Looks like the chainring is about 20" in diameter, so about 120 teeth. Cog would have to be 8T, but it doesn't look that tiny. How fast are these guys spinning? Is there a 2x internal hub in there?
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