xcracer13
10-20-07, 09:40 PM
Im curious why people in cycling shave their legs. I never truly understood why some people do. Thoughts?
General Cycling Discussion - Men: why shave your legs
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10-20-07, 09:52 PM
Yeah, I don't get why society wants us to shave our legs either ... but they do ... especially if we're going to wear capri pants on skirts to work or school. Oh well, it's life I guess .......... but in the winter, when I can wear long pants to work and school, I don't bother.
chephy
10-20-07, 10:18 PM
Your post is sexist. What about women who don't shave?
The reason male cyclists shave legs is to cut down on drag. If you're in Tour de France, it probably makes a difference. Otherwise probably not.
The reason male cyclists shave legs is to cut down on drag. If you're in Tour de France, it probably makes a difference. Otherwise probably not.
Machka
10-20-07, 10:22 PM
Your post is sexist. What about women who don't shave?
Like me! See post above! :D
The reason male cyclists shave legs is to cut down on drag. If you're in Tour de France, it probably makes a difference. Otherwise probably not.
Actually it isn't to cut down on drag - hair or the lack of it doesn't make that much difference. It's to make cleaning out road rash easier. If you've ever tried to clean gravel out of a leg wound when you've got a hairy leg, you'll know what I'm talking about. Moments like those ... I wish I did shave more often.
Like me! See post above! :D
The reason male cyclists shave legs is to cut down on drag. If you're in Tour de France, it probably makes a difference. Otherwise probably not.
Actually it isn't to cut down on drag - hair or the lack of it doesn't make that much difference. It's to make cleaning out road rash easier. If you've ever tried to clean gravel out of a leg wound when you've got a hairy leg, you'll know what I'm talking about. Moments like those ... I wish I did shave more often.
chephy
10-20-07, 10:29 PM
An article on leg-shaving. (http://www.ecscoach.com/sites/ecs/ecscoach.nsf/documents/EE5EB3B3AF27E2EEE925702E0046796D?OpenDocument) :)
Nachoman
10-20-07, 10:52 PM
In a word, yes.
DataJunkie
10-20-07, 11:14 PM
It is all for the entity known as bike forums. More repeated content to drag up weekly.
Reasons to name a few:
1) Vanity
2) It looks better
3) Easier to apply sunscreen
4) Massages feel better
5) Easier to clean out road rash.
6) Spandex with hairs sticking out of them looks awful.
I really do not understand why this question comes up so often. Many other sports involve shaving various body parts. Swimmers, body builders, etc.
Do forums devoted to these sports suffer from the same incessant questions?
Reasons to name a few:
1) Vanity
2) It looks better
3) Easier to apply sunscreen
4) Massages feel better
5) Easier to clean out road rash.
6) Spandex with hairs sticking out of them looks awful.
I really do not understand why this question comes up so often. Many other sports involve shaving various body parts. Swimmers, body builders, etc.
Do forums devoted to these sports suffer from the same incessant questions?
dauphin
10-20-07, 11:23 PM
It is all for the entity known as bike forums. More repeated content to drag up weekly.
Reasons to name a few:
1) Vanity
2) It looks better
3) Easier to apply sunscreen
4) Massages feel better
5) Easier to clean out road rash.
6) Spandex with hairs sticking out of them looks awful.
I really do not understand why this question comes up so often. Many other sports involve shaving various body parts. Swimmers, body builders, etc.
Do forums devoted to these sports suffer from the same incessant questions?
...as long as people continue to answer them.....:rolleyes:
Reasons to name a few:
1) Vanity
2) It looks better
3) Easier to apply sunscreen
4) Massages feel better
5) Easier to clean out road rash.
6) Spandex with hairs sticking out of them looks awful.
I really do not understand why this question comes up so often. Many other sports involve shaving various body parts. Swimmers, body builders, etc.
Do forums devoted to these sports suffer from the same incessant questions?
...as long as people continue to answer them.....:rolleyes:
Machka
10-20-07, 11:37 PM
Your post is sexist. What about women who don't shave?
The reason male cyclists shave legs ...
Do forums devoted to these sports suffer from the same incessant questions?
Well first, in this case, I suspect that xcracer13 didn't realize that women ride bicycles too, or he wouldn't have posted this particular poll with the wording he chose. I thought it was greatly amusing that the first two people to respond were female cyclists. :D
Second, I suspect that xcracer13 is 13 years old and doesn't know any better.
The reason male cyclists shave legs ...
Do forums devoted to these sports suffer from the same incessant questions?
Well first, in this case, I suspect that xcracer13 didn't realize that women ride bicycles too, or he wouldn't have posted this particular poll with the wording he chose. I thought it was greatly amusing that the first two people to respond were female cyclists. :D
Second, I suspect that xcracer13 is 13 years old and doesn't know any better.
BikeManDan
10-20-07, 11:50 PM
The only reason that made any remote sense to me was for massage
DataJunkie
10-21-07, 12:00 AM
...as long as people continue to answer them.....:rolleyes:
One could say the same thing about your arrogant response. :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
One could say the same thing about your arrogant response. :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
damnable
10-21-07, 12:24 AM
Second, I suspect that xcracer13 is 13 years old and doesn't know any better.
Maybe then he's got some bum fluff coming out and wants some advice.
And yes, the original post is sexist.
Maybe then he's got some bum fluff coming out and wants some advice.
And yes, the original post is sexist.
elgalad
10-21-07, 12:32 AM
Maybe then he's got some bum fluff coming out and wants some advice.
And yes, the original post is sexist.
How so?
Yes, female cyclists shave their legs too, but in the context of a society where women shave their legs anyway, it's not viewed as unusual for female cyclists to shave.
However, men generally do not shave their legs, except where they participate in a particular activity for which shaving is beneficial, so men shaving their legs for cycling could easily be viewed as out of the ordinary, hence the question.
Why do women shave their legs for cycling? That doesn't even make sense, as the vast majority of women shave their legs anyway (well, all the women I know), so they're not specifically shaving as a result of being a cyclist.
People are too quick to jump on the bandwagon of political correctness. There are clearly differences between men and women. That doesn't make one any better or worse than the other, just different. To suggest that something is peculiar to one sex and not the other is not derogatory, except in cases where such generalisations are clearly incorrect (eg. all men are smarter than women).
And yes, the original post is sexist.
How so?
Yes, female cyclists shave their legs too, but in the context of a society where women shave their legs anyway, it's not viewed as unusual for female cyclists to shave.
However, men generally do not shave their legs, except where they participate in a particular activity for which shaving is beneficial, so men shaving their legs for cycling could easily be viewed as out of the ordinary, hence the question.
Why do women shave their legs for cycling? That doesn't even make sense, as the vast majority of women shave their legs anyway (well, all the women I know), so they're not specifically shaving as a result of being a cyclist.
People are too quick to jump on the bandwagon of political correctness. There are clearly differences between men and women. That doesn't make one any better or worse than the other, just different. To suggest that something is peculiar to one sex and not the other is not derogatory, except in cases where such generalisations are clearly incorrect (eg. all men are smarter than women).
Machka
10-21-07, 12:45 AM
How so?
Yes, female cyclists shave their legs too, but in the context of a society where women shave their legs anyway, it's not viewed as unusual for female cyclists to shave.
However, men generally do not shave their legs, except where they participate in a particular activity for which shaving is beneficial, so men shaving their legs for cycling could easily be viewed as out of the ordinary, hence the question.
Why do women shave their legs for cycling? That doesn't even make sense, as the vast majority of women shave their legs anyway (well, all the women I know), so they're not specifically shaving as a result of being a cyclist.
People are too quick to jump on the bandwagon of political correctness. There are clearly differences between men and women. That doesn't make one any better or worse than the other, just different. To suggest that something is peculiar to one sex and not the other is not derogatory, except in cases where such generalisations are clearly incorrect (eg. all men are smarter than women).
How so? You must have had difficulty reading the question. First, I'm a WOMAN or a LADY ... not a CHICK. Second, I'm a lady who does NOT shave her legs ... at least not regularly ... so shaving is not necessarily something that "chicks" do. In fact, I know a lot of women in this part of the world who do not shave their legs during the winter. Therefore the generalization is clearly incorrect.
Yes, female cyclists shave their legs too, but in the context of a society where women shave their legs anyway, it's not viewed as unusual for female cyclists to shave.
However, men generally do not shave their legs, except where they participate in a particular activity for which shaving is beneficial, so men shaving their legs for cycling could easily be viewed as out of the ordinary, hence the question.
Why do women shave their legs for cycling? That doesn't even make sense, as the vast majority of women shave their legs anyway (well, all the women I know), so they're not specifically shaving as a result of being a cyclist.
People are too quick to jump on the bandwagon of political correctness. There are clearly differences between men and women. That doesn't make one any better or worse than the other, just different. To suggest that something is peculiar to one sex and not the other is not derogatory, except in cases where such generalisations are clearly incorrect (eg. all men are smarter than women).
How so? You must have had difficulty reading the question. First, I'm a WOMAN or a LADY ... not a CHICK. Second, I'm a lady who does NOT shave her legs ... at least not regularly ... so shaving is not necessarily something that "chicks" do. In fact, I know a lot of women in this part of the world who do not shave their legs during the winter. Therefore the generalization is clearly incorrect.
Bekologist
10-21-07, 01:04 AM
you'll only need to shave your legs for bicycling if you:
a)intend to crash.
a)intend to crash.
Sianelle
10-21-07, 01:14 AM
How so? You must have had difficulty reading the question. First, I'm a WOMAN or a LADY ... not a CHICK. Second, I'm a lady who does NOT shave her legs ... at least not regularly ... so shaving is not necessarily something that "chicks" do. In fact, I know a lot of women in this part of the world who do not shave their legs during the winter. Therefore the generalization is clearly incorrect.
Crikey yes. Women in my part of the world often leave their legs to go hairy over Winter too. I certainly do this myself because I'm usually wearing either long trousers or opaque Winter and Autumn weight stockings during the colder weather and there's no point in mucking about with unecessary grooming.
Crikey yes. Women in my part of the world often leave their legs to go hairy over Winter too. I certainly do this myself because I'm usually wearing either long trousers or opaque Winter and Autumn weight stockings during the colder weather and there's no point in mucking about with unecessary grooming.
stevegor
10-21-07, 01:27 AM
I'm a man.....and when I raced I shaved my legs
1% for ease of cleaning out gravel if I crashed,
0% for aero-dynamics
99% for sheer and utter vanity.....cos, man did they look unreal, especially after a 10 week block of intense training.....made Arnie's pegs look like chicken legs.
Now I don't race I don't shave and it must annoy the heck out of the CF pretty boys when an old geezer with gorilla legs whips their collective butts on Sat morning hit outs :p
1% for ease of cleaning out gravel if I crashed,
0% for aero-dynamics
99% for sheer and utter vanity.....cos, man did they look unreal, especially after a 10 week block of intense training.....made Arnie's pegs look like chicken legs.
Now I don't race I don't shave and it must annoy the heck out of the CF pretty boys when an old geezer with gorilla legs whips their collective butts on Sat morning hit outs :p
damnable
10-21-07, 02:22 AM
How so?
Yes, female cyclists shave their legs too, but in the context of a society where women shave their legs anyway, it's not viewed as unusual for female cyclists to shave.
However, men generally do not shave their legs, except where they participate in a particular activity for which shaving is beneficial, so men shaving their legs for cycling could easily be viewed as out of the ordinary, hence the question.
Why do women shave their legs for cycling? That doesn't even make sense, as the vast majority of women shave their legs anyway (well, all the women I know), so they're not specifically shaving as a result of being a cyclist.
People are too quick to jump on the bandwagon of political correctness. There are clearly differences between men and women. That doesn't make one any better or worse than the other, just different. To suggest that something is peculiar to one sex and not the other is not derogatory, except in cases where such generalisations are clearly incorrect (eg. all men are smarter than women).
You are presuming here that all women in society shave their legs. I am one of quite a few women I know who do not regularly do this. Oh no, according to you, I am going against society.
Also, as Machka has said, I am a woman and not a 'chick'.
My main gripe however was that the question was obviously directed only at men, especially since as people seem to have pointed out 'most women shave their legs anyway'. The questions is also impying that all 'chicks' should be shaving their legs. I'm not concerned since I refuse to be a 'chick'.
Yes, female cyclists shave their legs too, but in the context of a society where women shave their legs anyway, it's not viewed as unusual for female cyclists to shave.
However, men generally do not shave their legs, except where they participate in a particular activity for which shaving is beneficial, so men shaving their legs for cycling could easily be viewed as out of the ordinary, hence the question.
Why do women shave their legs for cycling? That doesn't even make sense, as the vast majority of women shave their legs anyway (well, all the women I know), so they're not specifically shaving as a result of being a cyclist.
People are too quick to jump on the bandwagon of political correctness. There are clearly differences between men and women. That doesn't make one any better or worse than the other, just different. To suggest that something is peculiar to one sex and not the other is not derogatory, except in cases where such generalisations are clearly incorrect (eg. all men are smarter than women).
You are presuming here that all women in society shave their legs. I am one of quite a few women I know who do not regularly do this. Oh no, according to you, I am going against society.
Also, as Machka has said, I am a woman and not a 'chick'.
My main gripe however was that the question was obviously directed only at men, especially since as people seem to have pointed out 'most women shave their legs anyway'. The questions is also impying that all 'chicks' should be shaving their legs. I'm not concerned since I refuse to be a 'chick'.
pj7
10-21-07, 02:44 AM
I shave my back.
...sometimes
...sometimes
elgalad
10-21-07, 03:03 AM
You are presuming here that all women in society shave their legs. I am one of quite a few women I know who do not regularly do this. Oh no, according to you, I am going against society.
Also, as Machka has said, I am a woman and not a 'chick'.
My main gripe however was that the question was obviously directed only at men, especially since as people seem to have pointed out 'most women shave their legs anyway'. The questions is also impying that all 'chicks' should be shaving their legs. I'm not concerned since I refuse to be a 'chick'.
No, it implies that women shave their legs, whilst men do not (outside of specific sports), which is true for the majority of women. The only reason you read into it that it implies you should be shaving your legs as a woman is because you feel somehow put upon by society in that it is more acceptable for women to have shaved legs. Don't take that out on the OP.
Also, as Machka has said, I am a woman and not a 'chick'.
My main gripe however was that the question was obviously directed only at men, especially since as people seem to have pointed out 'most women shave their legs anyway'. The questions is also impying that all 'chicks' should be shaving their legs. I'm not concerned since I refuse to be a 'chick'.
No, it implies that women shave their legs, whilst men do not (outside of specific sports), which is true for the majority of women. The only reason you read into it that it implies you should be shaving your legs as a woman is because you feel somehow put upon by society in that it is more acceptable for women to have shaved legs. Don't take that out on the OP.
damnable
10-21-07, 04:00 AM
No, it implies that women shave their legs, whilst men do not (outside of specific sports), which is true for the majority of women. The only reason you read into it that it implies you should be shaving your legs as a woman is because you feel somehow put upon by society in that it is more acceptable for women to have shaved legs. Don't take that out on the OP.
Right, so do you have the data to back that up?
If I felt that I had to shave my legs because I feel 'put upon' by society to do so, then I would shave my legs.
You accuse me of reading too much into what people say, yet then somehow from my few comments dare tell me about my feelings on peer pressure and social conformity.
Right, so do you have the data to back that up?
If I felt that I had to shave my legs because I feel 'put upon' by society to do so, then I would shave my legs.
You accuse me of reading too much into what people say, yet then somehow from my few comments dare tell me about my feelings on peer pressure and social conformity.
geebee
10-21-07, 04:22 AM
Im curious why people in cycling shave their legs. I never truly understood why some people do. Thoughts?
People get a life.
There is nothing sexist about this question, it is straight forward and completely innocent as far as I can tell and in view of the comments made I am trying to see fault in it.
The only possible fault is that a search would have answered it, and if that is a crime there are a hell of a lot of criminals around here.
People get a life.
There is nothing sexist about this question, it is straight forward and completely innocent as far as I can tell and in view of the comments made I am trying to see fault in it.
The only possible fault is that a search would have answered it, and if that is a crime there are a hell of a lot of criminals around here.
elgalad
10-21-07, 04:26 AM
People get a life.
There is nothing sexist about this question, it is straight forward and completely innocent as far as I can tell and in view of the comments made I am trying to see fault in it.
The only possible fault is that a search would have answered it, and if that is a crime there are a hell of a lot of criminals around here.
Thank you.
Well, except maybe for the "get a life" bit :D
There is nothing sexist about this question, it is straight forward and completely innocent as far as I can tell and in view of the comments made I am trying to see fault in it.
The only possible fault is that a search would have answered it, and if that is a crime there are a hell of a lot of criminals around here.
Thank you.
Well, except maybe for the "get a life" bit :D
Machka
10-21-07, 04:32 AM
People get a life.
There is nothing sexist about this question, it is straight forward and completely innocent as far as I can tell and in view of the comments made I am trying to see fault in it.
The only possible fault is that a search would have answered it, and if that is a crime there are a hell of a lot of criminals around here.
Did you read the rest of the question??? Apparently not. The question is clearly written as though:
1) all the forum members here are male
2) all women shave their legs
Neither of those presumptions is true.
I'm not sure if that makes the question "sexist" or not, but it does make it necessary to point out to the OP that not all forum members here are male, and not all women shave their legs.
And also that many women don't appreciate being referred to as "chicks". We prefer being shown a little bit of respect.
There is nothing sexist about this question, it is straight forward and completely innocent as far as I can tell and in view of the comments made I am trying to see fault in it.
The only possible fault is that a search would have answered it, and if that is a crime there are a hell of a lot of criminals around here.
Did you read the rest of the question??? Apparently not. The question is clearly written as though:
1) all the forum members here are male
2) all women shave their legs
Neither of those presumptions is true.
I'm not sure if that makes the question "sexist" or not, but it does make it necessary to point out to the OP that not all forum members here are male, and not all women shave their legs.
And also that many women don't appreciate being referred to as "chicks". We prefer being shown a little bit of respect.
geebee
10-21-07, 04:57 AM
Apologies, I took the question as the whole with out reading the poll.
Sianelle
10-21-07, 05:09 AM
And also that many women don't appreciate being referred to as "chicks". We prefer being shown a little bit of respect.
Agree +++
Agree +++
supton
10-21-07, 08:12 AM
If I can muddle the situation further: could the two possible answers allowed for the poll be one of those questions meant to illustrate the bias of the responder? As in, if I could expand the answers, "Yes, it looks good: I'm not ruled by what others think of me" and "No, it's for chicks: I'm afraid others will think I'm gay"? Sorta like the old question, "Have you stopped beating your wife today", only that this question allows for one right answer instead of none.
I'm probably phrasing it poorly, though. And it does seem like the question is aimed solely at men.
I'm probably phrasing it poorly, though. And it does seem like the question is aimed solely at men.
StephenH
10-21-07, 08:57 AM
Don't forget all that weight left behind instead of toting up the next hill. Why, it's probably equivalent to a full spit.
xcracer13
10-21-07, 10:11 AM
Well first, in this case, I suspect that xcracer13 didn't realize that women ride bicycles too, or he wouldn't have posted this particular poll with the wording he chose. I thought it was greatly amusing that the first two people to respond were female cyclists. :D
Second, I suspect that xcracer13 is 13 years old and doesn't know any better.
i do know that girls ride bikes, but this question was mainly directed to the guys. I was just wondering to shave my legs or not.
and im 14 thank you
Second, I suspect that xcracer13 is 13 years old and doesn't know any better.
i do know that girls ride bikes, but this question was mainly directed to the guys. I was just wondering to shave my legs or not.
and im 14 thank you
xcracer13
10-21-07, 10:25 AM
Did you read the rest of the question??? Apparently not. The question is clearly written as though:
1) all the forum members here are male
2) all women shave their legs
Neither of those presumptions is true.
I'm not sure if that makes the question "sexist" or not, but it does make it necessary to point out to the OP that not all forum members here are male, and not all women shave their legs.
And also that many women don't appreciate being referred to as "chicks". We prefer being shown a little bit of respect.
Im a guy, and was trying to get other guys thought about it and i do know there are women on this forum. If yout think its affensive then don't read it.. The ''girls'' didn't have to flip the original question and turn it into some political argument. I put ''chicks'' b/c most of the time if I ask a fellow ''man'' that dosen't shave his legs i usually get ''No shaving is for chicks'' i did not in tend for it too be a sexist comment and i dont see how it was. All the women that I know shave their legs and all the women that i have seen shave their legs and in todays society people suspect that women shave their legs. I did not in tend for the OP to be a sexist comment and it wasnt to me.
1) all the forum members here are male
2) all women shave their legs
Neither of those presumptions is true.
I'm not sure if that makes the question "sexist" or not, but it does make it necessary to point out to the OP that not all forum members here are male, and not all women shave their legs.
And also that many women don't appreciate being referred to as "chicks". We prefer being shown a little bit of respect.
Im a guy, and was trying to get other guys thought about it and i do know there are women on this forum. If yout think its affensive then don't read it.. The ''girls'' didn't have to flip the original question and turn it into some political argument. I put ''chicks'' b/c most of the time if I ask a fellow ''man'' that dosen't shave his legs i usually get ''No shaving is for chicks'' i did not in tend for it too be a sexist comment and i dont see how it was. All the women that I know shave their legs and all the women that i have seen shave their legs and in todays society people suspect that women shave their legs. I did not in tend for the OP to be a sexist comment and it wasnt to me.
donnamb
10-21-07, 10:34 AM
Im a guy, and was trying to get other guys thought about it and i do know there are women on this forum. If yout think its affensive then don't read it.. The ''girls'' didn't have to flip the original question and turn it into some political argument. I put ''chicks'' b/c most of the time if I ask a fellow ''man'' that dosen't shave his legs i usually get ''No shaving is for chicks'' i did not in tend for it too be a sexist comment and i dont see how it was. All the women that I know shave their legs and all the women that i have seen shave their legs and in todays society people suspect that women shave their legs. I did not in tend for the OP to be a sexist comment and it wasnt to me.
I edited your thread title. Perhaps that will help women understand that you meant for this poll to be for men, as none of the women who are on Bike Forums are mind readers.
I edited your thread title. Perhaps that will help women understand that you meant for this poll to be for men, as none of the women who are on Bike Forums are mind readers.
neilfein
10-21-07, 11:09 AM
6) Spandex with hairs sticking out of them looks awful.
You have hair that sticks out through spandex? Steel wool, perhaps? :D
You have hair that sticks out through spandex? Steel wool, perhaps? :D
DataJunkie
10-21-07, 11:43 AM
Yes, briefly. Then I wrecked for the first time on an ice patch and after the fun of cleaning my road rash... no more leg hair.
Wrecking is inevitable for me. Hence my title. :p
Wrecking is inevitable for me. Hence my title. :p
Nachoman
10-21-07, 12:51 PM
The only reason that made any remote sense to me was for massage
Not vanity? Do you comb your hair before you go to work? Why?
Not vanity? Do you comb your hair before you go to work? Why?
croscoe
10-21-07, 02:03 PM
It is all for the entity known as bike forums. More repeated content to drag up weekly.
Reasons to name a few:
1) Vanity
2) It looks better
3) Easier to apply sunscreen
4) Massages feel better
5) Easier to clean out road rash.
6) Spandex with hairs sticking out of them looks awful.
I really do not understand why this question comes up so often. Many other sports involve shaving various body parts. Swimmers, body builders, etc.
Do forums devoted to these sports suffer from the same incessant questions?
Indeed.
Reasons to name a few:
1) Vanity
2) It looks better
3) Easier to apply sunscreen
4) Massages feel better
5) Easier to clean out road rash.
6) Spandex with hairs sticking out of them looks awful.
I really do not understand why this question comes up so often. Many other sports involve shaving various body parts. Swimmers, body builders, etc.
Do forums devoted to these sports suffer from the same incessant questions?
Indeed.
neilfein
10-21-07, 03:25 PM
Part of my wants to sit back and be entertained by this train wreck of a thread. But I'm bad at shutting up when it comes to political correctness.
Um... people are speaking as if vanity is a bad thing. Honestly, it's a value I don't have much time for, but if it's within reason, I don't see how it harms anyone. Keeping in mind that the argument that shaving your legs is only for looks could be made for lycra cycling clothes as well.
As to the wording of the poll... I honestly think people can be far to oversensitive about these things. It's pretty obvious to me that the way these questions was worded was both meant to be funny and aimed towards men exclusively. If anyone wants to be offended at this, that's certainly a point of view.
Um... people are speaking as if vanity is a bad thing. Honestly, it's a value I don't have much time for, but if it's within reason, I don't see how it harms anyone. Keeping in mind that the argument that shaving your legs is only for looks could be made for lycra cycling clothes as well.
As to the wording of the poll... I honestly think people can be far to oversensitive about these things. It's pretty obvious to me that the way these questions was worded was both meant to be funny and aimed towards men exclusively. If anyone wants to be offended at this, that's certainly a point of view.
StephenH
10-21-07, 04:22 PM
"Keeping in mind that the argument that shaving your legs is only for looks could be made for lycra cycling clothes as well."
That would explain why I see people walking in this stuff.
That would explain why I see people walking in this stuff.
Milice
10-21-07, 04:24 PM
I hit black ice at the end of my drive way one winter a few years back. Road rash in January and having to wear work jeands 5 days a week was not much fun. Having hair ground into it was evan worse, think infection. I can wear short sleaves at work so the arm rash wasnt bad. Btu I wont go with out shaving now.
SSP
10-21-07, 05:42 PM
The two main reasons I shave are:
1) Vanity
Shaved legs just look better than unshaved (and most of the women I've polled on the subject agree).
I've spent thousands of hours cycling tens of thousands of miles, and climbing hundreds of thousands of vertical feet. After all that, why would I want to hide my muscles under a layer of hair?
2) Tribal Ritual
I typically ride with the Big Dogs...and most of the Big Dogs shave.
As for the fear of appearing different - I've never been worried whether or not some overweight slob with sexual insecurities might think I'm "gay".
1) Vanity
Shaved legs just look better than unshaved (and most of the women I've polled on the subject agree).
I've spent thousands of hours cycling tens of thousands of miles, and climbing hundreds of thousands of vertical feet. After all that, why would I want to hide my muscles under a layer of hair?
2) Tribal Ritual
I typically ride with the Big Dogs...and most of the Big Dogs shave.
As for the fear of appearing different - I've never been worried whether or not some overweight slob with sexual insecurities might think I'm "gay".
neilfein
10-21-07, 06:58 PM
As for the fear of appearing different - I've never been worried whether or not some overweight slob with sexual insecurities might think I'm "gay".
Because only fat guys are insecure. (My turn to be oversensitive, now, yeah...) :rolleyes:
Because only fat guys are insecure. (My turn to be oversensitive, now, yeah...) :rolleyes:
jimblairo
10-21-07, 07:12 PM
Shaved looks hot and hairy is not!
neilfein
10-21-07, 07:40 PM
Shaved looks hot and hairy is not!
That's a matter of opinion, friend.
That's a matter of opinion, friend.
discosaurus
10-21-07, 11:38 PM
I like that cycling guys shave legs. It's slowly dismantling the patriarchy, and they don't even know it!
I hate that leg shaving is such a gender specific thing in our culture. It sucks, but it is. The more men that shave, the less it becomes a girly thing to do. I don't know if I buy the wind drag or road rash arguments, but whatev. I'm down with leg shaving.
Shaved looks hot and hairy is not!
Truth. For guys and gals.
I hate that leg shaving is such a gender specific thing in our culture. It sucks, but it is. The more men that shave, the less it becomes a girly thing to do. I don't know if I buy the wind drag or road rash arguments, but whatev. I'm down with leg shaving.
Shaved looks hot and hairy is not!
Truth. For guys and gals.
spencejm
10-22-07, 03:03 PM
Not vanity? Do you comb your hair before you go to work? Why?
I'm offended that you appear to assume we all have enough hair to comb. :D
I'm offended that you appear to assume we all have enough hair to comb. :D
GeoLes
10-22-07, 03:56 PM
Because they are gay??
(being silly)
Seriously.
It's a matter of personal hygene. Some find that it is easier to treat road rash without hair in the way.
I would imagine there are aero advantages as well. That 1/100th of a second slip stream advatage can be huge at 15mph. :)
The serious answer is it is easier to clean and treat wounds on a shaven leg. - feels great too. If you don't believe it, ask the next shaved cyclist you see if you can touch his legs.
(being silly)
Seriously.
It's a matter of personal hygene. Some find that it is easier to treat road rash without hair in the way.
I would imagine there are aero advantages as well. That 1/100th of a second slip stream advatage can be huge at 15mph. :)
The serious answer is it is easier to clean and treat wounds on a shaven leg. - feels great too. If you don't believe it, ask the next shaved cyclist you see if you can touch his legs.
Boudicca
10-22-07, 05:18 PM
Im a guy, and was trying to get other guys thought about it and i do know there are women on this forum. If yout think its affensive then don't read it.. The ''girls'' didn't have to flip the original question and turn it into some political argument. I put ''chicks'' b/c most of the time if I ask a fellow ''man'' that dosen't shave his legs i usually get ''No shaving is for chicks'' i did not in tend for it too be a sexist comment and i dont see how it was. All the women that I know shave their legs and all the women that i have seen shave their legs and in todays society people suspect that women shave their legs. I did not in tend for the OP to be a sexist comment and it wasnt to me.
Maybe when you are a tad older than 14 you will understand that women don't like being called "chicks" and don't like being called "girls" unless we are also 14, in which case we probably don't have enough leg hair to make it worth shaving anyway.
Maybe when you are a tad older than 14 you will understand that women don't like being called "chicks" and don't like being called "girls" unless we are also 14, in which case we probably don't have enough leg hair to make it worth shaving anyway.
kjmillig
10-22-07, 06:23 PM
To the original poll question: Yes. Feels cool, and because I grow sparse little areas of whispy leg hair that look silly.
A male must be comfortable in his manhood to shave his legs. I guess he could be comfortable in his feminine side as well, but that's a different discussion:roflmao:
A male must be comfortable in his manhood to shave his legs. I guess he could be comfortable in his feminine side as well, but that's a different discussion:roflmao:
Rosso Corsa
10-22-07, 06:42 PM
"Keeping in mind that the argument that shaving your legs is only for looks could be made for lycra cycling clothes as well."
That would explain why I see people walking in this stuff.
Lol I clicked on walking like 20 times before I realized it wasn't a link!
That would explain why I see people walking in this stuff.
Lol I clicked on walking like 20 times before I realized it wasn't a link!
gkb
10-22-07, 06:46 PM
i don't shave now, but i will if i ever race. its part of the uniform.
polara426sh
10-22-07, 07:40 PM
I shave my legs a) because I tend to crash more often than most and b) my girlfriend likes it.