Southern California - Caught One Arsonist Trying to Set Fire in West Hills

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merider1
10-25-07, 12:56 PM
I like these types of stories and their endings:
http://www.knbc.com/news/14422854/detail.html?dl=headlineclick


merider1
10-25-07, 12:58 PM
And this may help them to catch the OC arsonist: http://www.knbc.com/news/14416035/detail.html

I certainly hope so.

DaveSANYYZ
10-25-07, 01:03 PM
Wonder why people will do that even after seeing the type/scope of damages that it can do. Are they really just out to have fun or something? I thought most of those will stop when they realize the impacts/consequences, which have been aired continuously for the last few days.


Scootcore
10-25-07, 01:11 PM
the little i ve read about arsonists points to the theory that they get a sexual charge from it...seriously....

FastEddie
10-25-07, 01:14 PM
They need to hang that dude up by his....toes!

Mr. Beanz
10-25-07, 01:25 PM
Wonder why people will do that even after seeing the type/scope of damages that it can do. Are they really just out to have fun or something? I thought most of those will stop when they realize the impacts/consequences, which have been aired continuously for the last few days.


Probably won't stop till they see their families and homes destroyed!:(

Mr. Beanz
10-25-07, 01:27 PM
Well now I don't feel so bad about not proofreading my material!:D

DannoXYZ
10-25-07, 01:30 PM
They need to hang that dude up by his....toes!and grill him over a campfire...

merider1
10-25-07, 01:30 PM
the little i ve read about arsonists points to the theory that they get a sexual charge from it...seriously....

Okay...ewwww. Even I, who gets sexully charged by just about everything, do not understand that one. No, death, destruction, hurting others (for real...not the "safe-word" type of pain-giving) is so not a turn on.

merider1
10-25-07, 01:33 PM
and grill him over a campfire...

Yeah, I'm with you. I piss my kindler gentler friends off all the time with my vigilante views. But I'm from the south, and I think the cowboys sometimes get it right. If they catch the *******/***** who set those OC fires, I would not shed a tear if they "disposed" of him/her as they see fit. Of course, that won't happen and our tax dollars will go toward legal defense and housing the sicko for years to come.

Tom Stormcrowe
10-25-07, 01:34 PM
ME, there are some pretty sick people in the world. :eek: It's a universal constant, regardless of where a group of people are located.

Turtle1
10-25-07, 01:42 PM
I saw a movie (based on true events) about this fire investigator who was also an arsonist. He worked for Glendale FD and was responsible for a deadly hardware store fire in South Pasadena about 20 years ago (among others).

Some folks are saying that the arsonist in SD has to be someone that has extensive knowledge of fires....scary stuff.

FastEddie
10-25-07, 01:43 PM
ME, there are some pretty sick people in the world. :eek: It's a universal constant, regardless of where a group of people are located.


The major difference between this sick **** and other sickos is the scale of what his actions have caused. Most others sick deeds only affect themselves or a few more people around them. This *******s maleficence has affected hundreds of thousands of people.

merider1
10-25-07, 01:48 PM
I saw a movie (based on true events) about this fire investigator who was also an arsonist. He worked for Glendale FD and was responsible for a deadly hardware store fire in South Pasadena about 20 years ago (among others).

Some folks are saying that the arsonist in SD has to be someone that has extensive knowledge of fires....scary stuff.

Wasn't it a female forest ranger who set the wildfires several years ago. She was caught and prosecuted, I believe. She wanted to set the fires so that she could be the one to report it and put it out.

Marrock
10-25-07, 01:49 PM
No, death, destruction, hurting others (for real...not the "safe-word" type of pain-giving) is so not a turn on.


http://www.unshelved.com/images/store/tee-ow-mens-large.gif

GP
10-25-07, 01:54 PM
There was a small brush fire set in Vista this morning. Some people saw the arsonist and led the deputies to his house. I'm surprised they didn't beat him to death.

Turtle1
10-25-07, 02:43 PM
Wasn't it a female forest ranger who set the wildfires several years ago. She was caught and prosecuted, I believe. She wanted to set the fires so that she could be the one to report it and put it out.


I don't recall the female forest ranger culprit, but the Glendale guy wanted to be the "hero" too. Oh, and I remember the name of the movie, "Point of Origin" with Ray Liota (sp?).

ronjon10
10-25-07, 03:05 PM
They need to hang that dude up by his....toes!

He'd probably like it.

Locking him away far from the attention he so sorely wants would probably be more painful to him.

socalrider
10-25-07, 03:20 PM
http://www.unshelved.com/images/store/tee-ow-mens-large.gif

My safe word is "MORE"

heresy
10-25-07, 03:32 PM
Baton to head. Repeat. After convicted, of course.

Cyclon
10-25-07, 03:43 PM
Wasn't it a female forest ranger who set the wildfires several years ago. She was caught and prosecuted, I believe. She wanted to set the fires so that she could be the one to report it and put it out.

Actually, what had happened was the female ranger got a break-up letter from her then bf. She got mad, tore up the letter, and lit the letters on fire in a campfire ring. Well, she did not extinguish the fire properly and drove off. She eventually noticed excessive smoke, went back, tried to stop the fire, but it had already gotten out of control. By then it was too late. That's where her story of being the first responder was her cover up story for her mistake.

merider1
10-25-07, 03:48 PM
Actually, what had happened was the female ranger got a break-up letter from her then bf. She got mad, tore up the letter, and lit the letters on fire in a campfire ring. Well, she did not extinguish the fire properly and drove off. She eventually noticed excessive smoke, went back, tried to stop the fire, but it had already gotten out of control. By then it was too late. That's where her story of being the first responder was her cover up story for her mistake.

Thank you, Cyclon! I couldn't remember exactly how it happened, but I just remember the cover up story. Is she in jail currently, I wonder?

urbanknight
10-25-07, 04:07 PM
I'm a big advocate of the punishment fitting the crime, including what some might call cruel. If you can be that cruel to others, you deserve the same cruelty towards yourself. In my opinion, a person who starts a fire that burns a house down should lose his/her house. If it kills someone, the person should be burned to death. The only crime I can think of where this wouldn't work is ****.

Turtle1
10-25-07, 04:20 PM
Oh man your tough, but fair. Whose job would it be to ignite the perp?

DaveSANYYZ
10-25-07, 04:29 PM
For me my view aren't as black and white. I'd be much more lenient if it was an accident than if it was intentional; because hey, people make mistakes.

merider1
10-25-07, 04:38 PM
I'm a big advocate of the punishment fitting the crime, including what some might call cruel. If you can be that cruel to others, you deserve the same cruelty towards yourself. In my opinion, a person who starts a fire that burns a house down should lose his/her house. If it kills someone, the person should be burned to death. The only crime I can think of where this wouldn't work is ****.

+1

Again, I usually incite a political argument with those around me when this topic is discussed as I have no shame in admitting that "eye for an eye" is suitable, IMO. But a less harsh way of looking at it is to do so from a medical POV. When a body has a cancerous cell, the medical community will do everything it can to eradicate the cell before it spreads and destroys more healthy cells. Therefore, humans who purposefully harm others should be eradicated. It's like removing cancer from the system.

I am not, however, a fan of "shoot and ask questions later." It has to be "beyond a shadow of a doubt" that a person is guilty.

big john
10-25-07, 04:44 PM
I'm a big advocate of the punishment fitting the crime, including what some might call cruel. If you can be that cruel to others, you deserve the same cruelty towards yourself. In my opinion, a person who starts a fire that burns a house down should lose his/her house. If it kills someone, the person should be burned to death. The only crime I can think of where this wouldn't work is ****.Why wouldn't it work with ****?

yogi13
10-25-07, 07:31 PM
The only crime I can think of where this wouldn't work is ****.

That's why they invented broomsticks.